What is Sportscar (and GT) Racing?

Dutton · 21 Mar 2010, 03:20 (Ref:2657016)

Sellf-evident title, I hope.

I have been reading this forum for years.

I love that you all know so much more than me.

So, please, answer this.

dxk1 · 21 Mar 2010, 13:39 (Ref:2657174)

A way for rich men to pour money into a hole in the road. Oh wait, is that boating?

DK

TWK · 21 Mar 2010, 16:20 (Ref:2657231)

Sports cars and Grand Touring cars are not the same. We can start there. Most of the BS arguments over what belongs and what does not start from the totally wrong belief that sports cars and GT cars are the same thing.

Next?

arakis · 21 Mar 2010, 16:27 (Ref:2657237)

simple answer: 24h Le Mans

TWK · 21 Mar 2010, 16:39 (Ref:2657241)

So, the ACO owns the sport? No one, and nothing else counts?

arakis · 21 Mar 2010, 17:25 (Ref:2657270)

preaty much--let me explain, it is the single most important race, that evvery, yes every team/driver in sports and gt cars wants to win, beside that the most sought of championships are the ALMS, LMS, AsLMS, fia gt used to be there but is now @#$@#$ thanks to Ratel

zac510 · 21 Mar 2010, 18:26 (Ref:2657322)

It's a race from the start to the finish of course

rayburn · 21 Mar 2010, 18:49 (Ref:2657340)

I cannot believe that you do not know the answer to your own question. I have seen you on these forums any times. Or is this a trick question?

**FIRE** · 21 Mar 2010, 21:02 (Ref:2657435)

It's much better than F1!

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Originally Posted by rayburn

I cannot believe that you do not know the answer to your own question. I have seen you on these forums any times. Or is this a trick question?

Was thinking the same

LeMans.pt · 21 Mar 2010, 21:40 (Ref:2657458)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

It's much better than F1!

Tim the Grey · 22 Mar 2010, 10:52 (Ref:2657733)

It is what it says on the packet? Bodywork over the wheels racing for GT and sportscars.
Leastways, it has been for the last 60 years!

Andy77 · 22 Mar 2010, 11:07 (Ref:2657740)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

It's much better than F1!

Andy77 · 22 Mar 2010, 11:09 (Ref:2657741)

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Originally Posted by Tim the Grey

It is what it says on the packet? Bodywork over the wheels racing for GT and sportscars.
Leastways, it has been for the last 60 years!

And the driver seat right or left but never on the center line

Speed-King · 22 Mar 2010, 11:10 (Ref:2657743)

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Originally Posted by Andy77

And the driver seat right or left but never on the center line

The McLaren F1 begs to differ....

Andy77 · 22 Mar 2010, 11:23 (Ref:2657751)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

The McLaren F1 begs to differ....

LOL yeah ... I remember reading about a Can Am car where it was tried but imediatly got prohibited too. And another occasion where it was measured with some obscure method that the driver seat was a centimeter out of center line and because of that technically legal

Stefvh · 22 Mar 2010, 11:36 (Ref:2657755)

1995 (or 1994, or 1996) WR had the driver in the middle.

Andy77 · 22 Mar 2010, 12:07 (Ref:2657770)

By looking at this years it seems like it was introduced by BPR and died that way too. However, it was during the huge sports car racing void in the 90s

pablocomics · 22 Mar 2010, 15:54 (Ref:2657881)

The Sportcars racing still keeps the taste of classic racing, the F1 and other competitions become too much professional and cold but sportcars still smell like old times... Veteran drivers, joung ones, glentemen drivers, big professional structures, teams with literaly 4 guys and no money, people who desing and drive their own car..... And a big, big variety of really different cars -with different sounds- and more take overs in one race (on each category) than the past 20 years of F1..... That´s maravellous

marcosgt · 22 Mar 2010, 16:46 (Ref:2657920)

Lots of Intereserie cars were modified single seaters, so had central (single) seats.

M.

pablocomics · 23 Mar 2010, 02:10 (Ref:2658327)

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Originally Posted by marcosgt

Lots of Intereserie cars were modified single seaters, so had central (single) seats.

M.

I still remember the Minardi and the Fodmetal conversions. That was very common in the late Can-AM series too

NaBUru38 · 23 Mar 2010, 12:49 (Ref:2658567)

Sports car racing = grand touring car racing + sports prototype racing

Grand touring (race) car = a road sports car (not necessarily a grand tourer) modified for improved preformance on track.
Sports prototype = a purposely-built race car with closed wheels and a non-touring car shape.

I'm not totally sure about where to put Japanese Super GTs and Grand-Am GT Prep 2 cars, since they fit into the latter definition but are commonly considered as grand tourers.

TWK · 23 Mar 2010, 15:07 (Ref:2658636)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Sports car racing = grand touring car racing + sports prototype racing

Grand touring (race) car = a road sports car (not necessarily a grand tourer) modified for improved preformance on track.
Sports prototype = a purposely-built race car with closed wheels and a non-touring car shape.

I'm not totally sure about where to put Japanese Super GTs and Grand-Am GT Prep 2 cars, since they fit into the latter definition but are commonly considered as grand tourers.

So, to make your definition work you have to throw out Grand Touring (GT) cars? Where do you find a definition for a "Grand Tourer" that's distinct from a "Grand Touring" car?

Dani Filth · 23 Mar 2010, 17:57 (Ref:2658752)

inspired by Baldrick's definition of "dog = not a cat" from Ink and Incapability
sportscar racing = not single seaters. . or touring cars .. or rally cars .. or ...

rich07 · 24 Mar 2010, 03:46 (Ref:2659010)

Sportscar and GT Racing is...awesome.

cptkablamo · 24 Mar 2010, 04:26 (Ref:2659020)

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