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Old 18 Oct 2006, 18:05 (Ref:1741426)   #1
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Official: 2007 Sporting regulations

Just out on FIA web site.

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press...181006-01.html

Some very interesting changes!

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Old 18 Oct 2006, 18:19 (Ref:1741431)   #2
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My thoughts:

- it's sad that the Friday-testers will disappeared.
- 14 sets of tyres is very much. By far most sets won't be used, but I like it.
- engine homologation is still the most stupied rule ever introduced in motor racing.
- No engine savings on Friday is a good change.
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 18:35 (Ref:1741439)   #3
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The first thing that stands out is the Nascarization of the sport.

A free pass for a lapped car?
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 18:40 (Ref:1741442)   #4
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The first thing that stands out is the Nascarization of the sport.

A free pass for a lapped car?
See this specific thread on that subject: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89872
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 18:44 (Ref:1741446)   #5
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- it's sad that the Friday-testers will disappeared.
I'm not sure they (the drivers) have:
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Teams may only use two cars in any one practice session. A nominated third driver or either race driver can use these cars in the session.
The two free practice sessions on the first day of practice have been extended from one hour to ninety minutes each.
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 18:47 (Ref:1741449)   #6
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- 14 sets of tyres is very much. By far most sets won't be used, but I like it.
Is this a concession to those complaining that bridgestone runners will have an advantage? Well now they have tyres to throw away and can get a lot of running to try them.
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 18:50 (Ref:1741451)   #7
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i like the fact that you now get 14 sets of tyres, i disliked the stupid thing about is the driver using new sets for his quali lap or scrubbed sets. People want to know who's fastest not who more tactically aware.

intereresting change to safety car procedure too, you can't enter until all cars are bunched behind the SC, meaning no advantage of getting in a quick pit stop while every is slowed.
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 19:26 (Ref:1741476)   #8
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Could this part of the FIA release be clarified for me please

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The two-race engine regulations will now only apply to the second day of practice and the day of the race.
Does this mean that the race engines will only have to complete 2 Saturdays & Sundays and there will now be dedicated "Friday engines" which only have to last for 2x90 minute sessions and can be replaced as often as necessary?
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 19:30 (Ref:1741480)   #9
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I'd like the FIA to come out with a statement:

'We are retro amending the regulations back 15 years'.
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 19:37 (Ref:1741489)   #10
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I'm not sure they (the drivers) have:

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press...181006-01.html
It still means that the Friday-testers as we have it nowadays will disappear.
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Of course.

However this seems to mean that the teams can do as much (or more?) running as before and run their third driver if they wish. All teams too.

Am I correct here? The role may shift from setting up a car, to being a more general test were new drivers can be tried out. Advantages and disadvantages.
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 20:58 (Ref:1741555)   #12
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It still means that the Friday-testers as we have it nowadays will disappear.
Given the choice of seeing half a dozen relative nobodies touring around with race drivers only doing a shakedown lap or having 22 drivers getting stuck in, I know which I'd rather see.
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Old 18 Oct 2006, 23:50 (Ref:1741709)   #13
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Three hours of top drivers going at full pelt on an almost limitless amount of tyres,together with throw away engines,on a Friday,should please most i would think.

Nice to see that they have done away with the weight penalties for 2008.

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Old 19 Oct 2006, 02:33 (Ref:1741748)   #14
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Intresting that BS can supply TWO types of tyre for each race (as they requested). Assume that will be 7 sets of each? At least allows some ebb and flow, depending on which tyres you choose. Can you mix and match - ie start on type A and switch to type B? I hope so - would provide interest, esp if 'option' tyre is clearly marked, as in Champ Car.
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Can you mix and match - ie start on type A and switch to type B? I hope so - would provide interest, esp if 'option' tyre is clearly marked, as in Champ Car.
No option tyre (yet),just same as before.Drivers will use Friday running to choose between the two tyres.
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Why will the FIA close the pits during SF-periods?
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Why will the FIA close the pits during SF-periods?
I think it is so because then drivers will not hurry to pit lane after SC is deployed.

One problem there is. If you have just planned pit stop on lap 25 and SC comes that lap - will you stay out and risk running out of fuel or pit and get some kind of penalty?
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tough call on that one. If it does happen i'm sure the team (s) in question will complain as its a little unfair.

The FIA always seems to answer a question with another question.
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Old 19 Oct 2006, 09:30 (Ref:1741935)   #19
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It's certainly interesting to ponder isn't it?

I can see things 2 ways. Teams/drivers will either massively benefit (I.E, stay out front) or massively disadvantage themselves (if fuel strategy is wrong) having to pit. Maybe we'll see teams opting to fuel cars up for the race and just change tyres to limit time delays? Or maybe i've missed the jist of things!

On the other hand I have no problem with the SC queue changes. It could mean that a potentially decent scrap at the front won't be interrupted by backmarkers after an SC phase, which is better for us spectators. It's better to look at it like this rather than think:

'oh that's a damn shame that a potentially dominant race leader of a potentially dull race has had his race compromised by this blasted new SC rule...'

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Old 19 Oct 2006, 09:46 (Ref:1741944)   #20
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Having more tyre sets is a good thing so we won't see anybody compromised during the race.

The 2 engine rule might aswell only be applied to the race.

Having the same engines till 2010! where is the progress?

The safety car idea is good for the spectacle but what if one of the front runners has a bad pit stop and they become lapped and then a safety car comes out? that will bring them back into contention when they dont deserve it.
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