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Old 20 Jun 2004, 18:57 (Ref:1009776)   #1
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ralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
what actually happened to RS? lost control or understeer or did he go off line
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 18:58 (Ref:1009778)   #2
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RS got a puncture.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:05 (Ref:1009789)   #3
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RS got a puncture.
According to Sir Frank, that wasn't the case. Mark Blundell thinks that Rafe had 2 wheels on the flat apron section and the outside 2 on the banking which caused the car to twist and hit the barriers.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:10 (Ref:1009794)   #4
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Well I heard it both ways! I actually don't know for sure.....does anybody?
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:17 (Ref:1009808)   #5
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Having looked at the incident several times i think it was just a case of Ralf taking the wrong line in to the corner & losing the car & ending up in the wall.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:21 (Ref:1009817)   #6
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A bad mistake it looks to have been, as I watch the replays on tape.

Lucky boy.......a testament to the standards in safety nowadays. It's quite feasible that had the accident been six or seven years ago, he'd be leaving Indy in a pine box.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:22 (Ref:1009822)   #7
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It is an odd place ot make a mistake, I was under the impression it was an easy corner.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:25 (Ref:1009832)   #8
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Every corner is easy if you get it right Adam

Just seems that he went in too low.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:50 (Ref:1009915)   #9
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hang on - nobody knows as nobody saw the actual start / cause of the accident.

and williams are not going to say its a puncture in front of the world's press.

That's the way F1 PR works.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:53 (Ref:1009923)   #10
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I think they will say what happened - when they know.
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 19:57 (Ref:1009935)   #11
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Dani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
my impression was that he was to low . and touched the flat .. ..
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 20:17 (Ref:1009966)   #12
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it does seem a bit of an odd mistake to make though, I'm sure there was more to it
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 20:20 (Ref:1009973)   #13
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From Autosport http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=38023&s=5 :
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Technical director Sam Michael added: "It was not a mistake; certainly not a driving error. We'll have a look at the rear suspension and wing."
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 20:26 (Ref:1009980)   #14
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Hmm..there's not much left of it to "have a look at" :confused:
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Old 20 Jun 2004, 20:44 (Ref:1010017)   #15
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I missed that, was getting breakfast @ the time! **** nasty smash tho.

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Old 20 Jun 2004, 22:20 (Ref:1010178)   #16
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sam michael again
"Thankfully Ralf will be okay. He had a puncture, which caused him to crash. "
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 14:40 (Ref:1010818)   #17
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Rather worryingly if you look at the Sutton Images pics of the crash via the ITV F1 site it looks like Ralfs visor is wide open during the accident
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 15:00 (Ref:1010849)   #18
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Hmm. I thought he opened it when the car came to a halt.
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 15:25 (Ref:1010888)   #19
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I can't honestly see Rafe, or indeed, any other driver managing to see where he's going with his visor open at 150 MPH.
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 15:30 (Ref:1010895)   #20
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If you look closely at the TV pictures it flipped open as he hit the wall.
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 15:32 (Ref:1010897)   #21
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 15:44 (Ref:1010920)   #22
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Yep, that visor was open during the crash.
You don't even have to look closely to notice it.
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 16:00 (Ref:1010936)   #23
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The visor is sticking up practically vertical as if quite a lot of force has pushed it up that high.
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 18:44 (Ref:1011175)   #24
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"However, with Michelin now revealing that Ralf's accident had been caused by his Williams collecting debris from the first lap pile-up despite that incident also prompting the safety car to be deployed so that the stewards could clear the circuit, DC may have reason to change his mind a second time."

http://www.planet-f1.com/news/story_16170.shtml
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Old 21 Jun 2004, 20:10 (Ref:1011258)   #25
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You may all be glad to know that Ralf has been discharged from hospital

He is now on his way home to Austria to recover. A statement from Williams says "Ralf is well, but has a bruised back and strained back muscles."

He will not be participating in testing this week and his participation in the French Grand Prix is far from decided.
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