LMS Rnd 3: Nurburgring 1000km 29 Jun-1 Jul 2007

[HORNDAWG]

Well with about a week and a half till the race, I thought I would start the race thread.

Schedule link

Entrant link

Track map link

LMS link

L.P.

[Chewie-1990]

Isn't that entry list the one they put online as season entries earlier in the year? Or is the Goldentime Ferrari coming in for Nurburgring only? Entry list I've seen:

LMP1
3 - Scuderia Lavaggi - Lavaggi-Ford LS01 - Giovanni Lavaggi/ TBA
5 - Swiss Spirit - Lola-Audi B07/10 - Jean-Denis Deletraz/ Marcel Fassler/ Iradj Alexander David
7 - Team Peugeot Total - Peugeot 908 HDI FAP - Nicolas Minassian/ Marc Gene
8 - Team Peugeot Total - Peugeot 908 HDI FAP - Pedro Lamy/ Stephane Sarrazin
9 - Creation Autosportif - Creation-AIM CA07 - Jamie Campbell-Walter/ Shinji Nakano/
Felipe Ortiz
10 - Arena International - Zytek 07S - Stefan Johansson/ Hayanari Shimoda
12 - Courage Competition - Courage-AER LC70 - Jonathan Cochet/ Alexander Frei
13 - Courage Competition - Courage-AER LC70 - Jean-Marc Gounon/ Guillaume Moreau
14 - Racing for Holland - Dome-Judd S101.5 - Jan Lammers/ Jeroen Bleekemolen/ David Hart
15 - Charouz Racing Systems - Lola-Judd B07/17 - Jan Charouz/ Stefan Mucke/ Alex Yoong
16 - Pescarolo Sport - Pescarolo-Judd 01 - Emmanuel Collard/ Jean-Christophe Bouillon
17 - Pescarolo Sport - Pescarolo-Judd 01 - Harold Primat/ Christophe Tinseau
18 - Rollcentre Racing - Pescarolo-Judd 01 - Stuart Hall/ Joao Barbosa
19 - Chamberlain Synergy Motorsport - Lola-AER B06/10 - Gareth Evans/ Peter Owen/ Bob Berridge

LMP2
20 - PiR Motorsport - Pilbeam-Judd MP93 - Marc Rostan/ Pierre Bruneau/ Simon Pullan
21 - Bruichladdich Radical - Radical-AER SR9 - Tim Greaves/ Robin Liddell/ Stuart Moseley
24 - Noel del Bello Racing - Courage-AER LC75 - Liz Halliday/ TBA
25 - Ray Mallock Limited - MG Lola-AER EX264 - Mike Newton/ Tommy Erdos
26 - Ranieri Randaccio - Lucchini-Nicholson LMP2/04 - Fabio Mancini/ Ranieri Randaccio
27 - Horag Lista Racing - Lola-Judd B05/40 - Fredy Lienhard/ Didier Theys/ Eric van de Poele
29 - T2M Motorsport - Dome-Mader S101.5 - Robin Longechal/ Yutaka Yamagishi
31 - Binnie Motorsports - Lola-Zytek B05/40 - Bill Binnie/ Allen Timpany/ Chris Buncombe
32 - Barazi-Epsilon Racing - Zytek 07S - Juan Barazi/ Michael Vergers/ Karim Ojjeh
35 - Saulnier Racing - Courage-AER LC75 - Bruce Jouanny/ Jacques Nicolet/ Alain Filhol
40 - Quifel-ASM Team - Lola-AER B05/40 - Miguel Amaral/ Angel Burgueno/ Miguel Angel de Castro
44 - Kruse Motorsport - Pescarolo-Judd 01 - Norbert Siedler/ Tony Burgess/ Jean de Pourtales
45 - Embassy Racing - Radical-Judd SR9 - Warren Hughes/ Neil Cunningham

GT1
50 - Larbre Competition - Aston Martin DBR9 - Fabrizio Gollin/ Christophe Bouchut/ Gabriele Gardel
51 - Larbre Competition - Aston Martin DBR9 - Gregor Fisken/ Gregory Franchi/ Steve Zacchia
55 - Team ORECA - Saleen S7-R - Stephane Ortelli/ Soheil Ayari
59 - Team Modena - Aston Martin DBR9 - Antonio Garcia/ Christian Fittipaldi
61 - Racing Box - Saleen S7-R - Pier Giuseppe Perazzini/ Marco Cioci/ Salvatore Tavano
72 - Luc Alphand Aventures - Chevrolet Corvette C6.R - Jerome Policand/ Luc Alphand/ Patrice Goueslard
73 - Luc Alphand Aventures - Chevrolet Corvette C5-R - Jean-Luc Blanchemain/ Vincent Vosse/ Sebastien Dumez

GT2
76 - IMSA Performance Matmut - Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Richard Lietz/ Raymond Narac
77 - Team Felbermayr Proton - Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Marc Lieb/ Xavier Pompidou
78 - Scuderia Villoba Corse - Ferrari 430 GT - Alex Caffi/ Denny Zardo
79 - Team Felbermayre Proton - Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Gerold Ried/ Philip Collin/ Horst Felbermayr Sr
81 - Team LNT - Panoz Esperante GT-LM - Tom Kimber-Smith/ Danny Watts
82 - Team LNT - Panoz Esperante GT-LM - Richard Dean/ Tom Milner
83 - G.P.C. Sport SRL - Ferrari 430 GT - Gabrio Rosa/ Luca Drudi/ Johnny Mowlem
84 - Chad Peninsula Panoz - Panoz Esperante GT-LM - John Hartshorne/ Sean McInerney/ Michael McInerney
85 - Spyker Squadron - Spyker C8 Spyder GT2R - Peter Kox/ Jarek Janis
88 - Team Felbermayr Proton - Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Christian Ried/ Thomas Gruber/ Horst Felbermayr Jr
89 - Markland Racing - Chevrolet Corvette Z.06 - Kurt Thiim/ Thorkild Thyrring/ Henrik Moller Sorensen
90 - Farnbacher Racing - Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Dirk Werner/ Pierre Ehret/ Lars-Erik Nielsen
92 - Perspective Racing - Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Philippe Hesnault/ Nigel Smith/ Anthony Beltoise
94 - Speedy Racing Team - Spyker C8 Spyder GT2R - Jonny Kane/ Andrea Chiesa/ Andrea Belicchi
95 - James Watt Automotive - Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Joel Camathias/ Paul Daniels/ Dave Cox
96 - Virgo Motorsport - Ferrari 430 GT - Robert Bell/ Allan Simonsen
97 - G.P.C. Sport SRL - Ferrari 430 GT - Sergio Hernandez/ Alessandro Bonetti/ Fabrizio de Simone
98 - Ice Pol Racing Team - Ferrari 430 GT - Yves Lambert/ Christian Lefort
99 - JMB Racing - Ferrari 430 GT - Maurice Basso/ Bo McCormick

[HORNDAWG]

Why yes, you are correct in that it was last updated 4/4/07. But the beauty of such a list is that it is official and can/will be updated by the LMS and still be accessible through the link.

Because of the amount of entrants vs limitations to grid size by rule , there are teams that have been excluded from participating at all of the races and therefore altered their program to adjust for it.

L.P.

[Chewie-1990]

I think Valencia was the only race on the calendar which can accept less cars than are on the season entry list, the rest are alright I believe

Until the official list is updated ^^ is more or less the field for Nurburgring

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by Chewie-1990

I think Valencia was the only race on the calendar which can accept less cars than are on the season entry list, the rest are alright I believe

Until the official list is updated ^^ is more or less the field for Nurburgring

Interlagos will also be a reduced field, with the track length at only 4.309km.

L.P.

[isynge]

A big question for me is whether there will be any post-Le Mans casualties in the entry list, either with money situations changing or problems that were highlighted by the 24 hours and 2 weeks not being enough time to fix them.

Sadly I suspect Audi's dramas pretty much confirm they won't be coming along.

A possibly even bigger question is whether to undertake the road trip to watch the race in the flesh? Anyone got any experience of what the track's like from a spectator's viewpoint, and indeed any ideas of a place to stay around there - there and back in a day, while perfectly doable, might be pushing it a bit.

[brielga]

The track is nice for spectators although some stands at the back end won't be accessible. The facilities are very nice and there is enough camping/hotels/Center parcs in the neighborhood to stay at a reasonable price.

[canam]

Originally Posted by brielga

The track is nice for spectators although some stands at the back end won't be accessible. The facilities are very nice and there is enough camping/hotels/Center parcs in the neighborhood to stay at a reasonable price.

and there is always the opportunity to drive the big circuit

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by isynge

A big question for me is whether there will be any post-Le Mans casualties in the entry list, either with money situations changing or problems that were highlighted by the 24 hours and 2 weeks not being enough time to fix them.

For example Radical (damaged tub?).
Will Arena Zytek return to LMS?

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by FIRE

For example Radical (damaged tub?).

radical will be there, there testing next week and would have been back out at le mans had the officials let them repair it.

[dj choc ice]

Originally Posted by FIRE

For example Radical (damaged tub?).
Will Arena Zytek return to LMS?

i would say it is very likely that arena and bruichladdich will return to the LMS, these are two teams who have shelled out a huge amount of money, arena and bruichalddich both have the capability to get wins in their respective classes.

[minimangler]

Just to remind you guys, there's a 'minor' (or you'd think it was, given the coverage everywhere, including here) gt event at monza this weekend.

[Marcel ten Caat]

The #24 Noel del Bello Courage and #26 Ranieri Randaccio Lucchini are no longer on the list. 51 cars remaining.

- Johansson off, Chilton back in at Arena.
- No Liddell at Bruichladdich
- Martin Short listed as 3rd driver at Rollcentre

[Dani Filth]

shame .. i'd like to see the Lucchini raced again in the LMS . it's a lovely looking car .. but at least the Lavaggi is

[Marcel ten Caat]

Lavaggi needs a second driver first

[JAG]

Lucchini, they could have wrapped up a huge number of LMP2 sales if they'd hit the ground running, now it's an also ran.

Missed opportunity.

[isynge]

Originally Posted by JAG

Lucchini, they could have wrapped up a huge number of LMP2 sales if they'd hit the ground running, now it's an also ran.

Missed opportunity.

Summed that one up quite neatly. Revisiting 2004 on DSC a couple of nights ago I was struck by how much optimism and promise came with that car. A real shame it seems to have come to naught. Here's hoping it comes out of the woodwork later in the year - Vallelunga 6 hours anyone?

[dj choc ice]

the luchinni probably almost certainly had the potential to be a class winner but by the looks of it a lack of funding and development meant this car ended up being another turnip, much like the zulltech, ah well at least the luchinni got to race though

[FIRE]

The Lucchini (first real LMP2 car) was very promising but it lacked testing and development. Major problem was the Pankl gearbox (Are they switched to Hewland or X-trac?). In the meantime the car is already 4 years old and I don't think it's still competative.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by dj choc ice

the luchinni probably almost certainly had the potential to be a class winner but by the looks of it a lack of funding and development meant this car ended up being another turnip, much like the zulltech, ah well at least the luchinni got to race though

But Pilbeam have sold a couple of cars, and IMO, that doen't look to have half the potential of the Lucchini.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by JAG

But Pilbeam have sold a couple of cars, and IMO, that doen't look to have half the potential of the Lucchini.

True

[jaysalv]

no ones mentioned the charouz lola and how well its doing having spoken to someone connected with the team they are gobsmacked at how fast mucke is and to quote .. they dont know if the car will come back in one piece as he uses he throttle like a switch always on lol. i think they are due a another podium in lmp1 any one else think so?

[The Badger]

My favourite team this year ..... looks great , sounds great , driven brilliantly ... excellant package all round .

[jaysalv]

i agree well my fav lmp1 team at the mo its just dissapionting that creation have not solved there reliagability issues out this year as they are a great team .but charouz drivr line up is i think the youngest in p1 and for me the quickest

[I love 04s]

I think Shimoda and Chilton might just put pay to that last comment! Especially considering what happened in 2005....