WTCC WTCC 2013

I Rosputnik · 27 Sep 2012, 10:19 (Ref:3142441)

Citroen are looking at going to the WTCC in 2014 with Sebastien Loeb.

O_O'

kurski · 28 Sep 2012, 14:23 (Ref:3143205)

The FIA and Eurosport Events Ltd. have renewed the commercial rights for the World Touring Car Championship until 2017.

kober · 28 Sep 2012, 14:42 (Ref:3143217)

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Originally Posted by kurski

The FIA and Eurosport Events Ltd. have renewed the commercial rights for the World Touring Car Championship until 2017.

Good news! Hopefully, a little bit of granted stability will attract a manufacturer or two.

NaBUru38 · 28 Sep 2012, 15:31 (Ref:3143259)

So it's Honda, Ford, Seat, Citroën and Lada so far, plus the BMW and Chevrolet privateers.

redshoes · 28 Sep 2012, 16:44 (Ref:3143308)

Must be time for a WTCC 2013 thread, if only to stop the 2013 news being posted in the 2012 thread.

Calendar as announced by FIA today
10/03 ESP TBA*
24/03 ITA Monza*
07/04 TBA TBA*
28/04 SVK Slovakiaring*
05/05 HUN Hungaroring
19/05 AUT Salzburgring
09/06 RUS Moscow Raceway*
30/06 PRT Porto*
21/07 BRA Curitiba*
15/09 USA Sonoma*
13/10 CHN Shangai*
27/10 JPN Suzuka
17/11 MAC Macau*

Spare dates: 04/08, 25/08
* Subject to ASN’s confirmation

BtccLee · 28 Sep 2012, 16:50 (Ref:3143310)

Will try and keep up to date more next year.

Never has and never will appeal to me anywhere near as much as the BTCC but still think it is a fantastic series and getting better.

Will also try to follow the end of this year, supporting Huffy...

**FIRE** · 28 Sep 2012, 17:09 (Ref:3143318)

double

**FIRE** · 28 Sep 2012, 17:12 (Ref:3143323)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

So it's Honda, Ford, Seat, Citroën and Lada so far, plus the BMW and Chevrolet privateers.

Only Honda is confirmed.

LeoncaValla · 28 Sep 2012, 19:28 (Ref:3143387)

Nissan still possible.

kober · 28 Sep 2012, 22:11 (Ref:3143433)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Only Honda is confirmed.

But it's almost impossible that there won't be at least one Leon, Cruze and 320 on the grid next year

NaBUru38 · 29 Sep 2012, 13:21 (Ref:3143717)

Do you really mean that Lada isn't confirmed?

LeoncaValla · 29 Sep 2012, 14:07 (Ref:3143744)

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Do you really mean that Lada isn't confirmed?

Russian long harness

I think the confirmation must wait until the new year.

I Rosputnik · 29 Sep 2012, 21:37 (Ref:3143916)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

Must be time for a WTCC 2013 thread, if only to stop the 2013 news being posted in the 2012 thread.

Calendar as announced by FIA today
10/03 ESP TBA*
24/03 ITA Monza*
07/04 TBA TBA*
28/04 SVK Slovakiaring*
05/05 HUN Hungaroring
19/05 AUT Salzburgring
09/06 RUS Moscow Raceway*
30/06 PRT Porto*
21/07 BRA Curitiba*
15/09 USA Sonoma*
13/10 CHN Shangai*
27/10 JPN Suzuka
17/11 MAC Macau*

Spare dates: 04/08, 25/08
* Subject to ASN’s confirmation

Interesting calendar, while I doubt we will see the UK (T_T) or Germany return any time soon with Citroen considering to join, would the KSO look at returning to France to replace Morocco?

Although if Citroën do enter I would be a little nervous about the calendar. I remember in the WRC, they weren't keen on racing outside of Europe and yet curiously they are looking at the WTCC because of how diverse the calendar is. If there is one thing I like about the WTCC is that the calendar has a nice balance between European rounds and international rounds (I'm happy that there is a race in Japan and the USA). I have my fingers crossed Ford enter as a works team, it should protect the US race if they can make it work.

Personally I would rather see the WTCC continue to stretch out a bit and see if it could make a name for itself internationally rather then recede back. Not saying I would like the championship to leave Europe completely, in fact I would like think if it can spend a few years working on improving the championship internationally it might be able to return to Germany and the UK with a stronger focus.

**FIRE** · 30 Sep 2012, 08:50 (Ref:3144051)

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

Although if Citroën do enter I would be a little nervous about the calendar. I remember in the WRC, they weren't keen on racing outside of Europe and yet curiously they are looking at the WTCC because of how diverse the calendar is.

If I remember well Citroen isn't interested in the Middle-East events.
China is an important market for Citroen.
I can imagine they also want to race in South-America and Marocco (or elsewhere in Africa).

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

If there is one thing I like about the WTCC is that the calendar has a nice balance between European rounds and international rounds (I'm happy that there is a race in Japan and the USA). I have my fingers crossed Ford enter as a works team, it should protect the US race if they can make it work.

No problems with this calendar, except for the fact the first half of the season is only in Europe and the second half only outside Europe. I would like to see a mix.

LeoncaValla · 30 Sep 2012, 11:18 (Ref:3144098)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

No problems with this calendar, except for the fact the first half of the season is only in Europe and the second half only outside Europe. I would like to see a mix.

It will be expensive logistics for private teams.

Gloria LeicesterFan · 30 Sep 2012, 11:39 (Ref:3144104)

The idea of a WTCC is excellent, shame it's not run or promoted properly.

I Rosputnik · 30 Sep 2012, 16:15 (Ref:3144193)

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Originally Posted by LeoncaValla

It will be expensive logistics for private teams.

I still personally believe the best answer for the globe trotting aspect would be to divide the calendar into different segments reflecting the region they are racing in (Europe/Asia/Americas) and to have a cup for each of them reserved for privateers.

For example an Asian team wants to race in the WTCC but can not afford to race in Europe or the Americas, so if they decide to do the Asian rounds they would compete for a cup against other Asian rounds only teams to give them something to work for.

That way you could bring in a few more teams into the championship, and give them an intensive to complete a segment if they can not do all of the races.

Craner Curves · 4 Oct 2012, 22:43 (Ref:3146353)

Noticed that Seat no longer sponsor the Europa League. More money for the motorsport division?

NaBUru38 · 5 Oct 2012, 14:48 (Ref:3146639)

Spain is in a deep crisis. VAG is better than fine, but Seat's sales are lower than they'd like.

Craner Curves · 5 Oct 2012, 17:19 (Ref:3146702)

They're selling well in the UK anyway. http://www.seatcupra.net/index.php?o...=1344&Itemid=1

jsmee · 11 Oct 2012, 22:48 (Ref:3150174)

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Originally Posted by LeoncaValla

Nissan still possible.

I would say this is unlikely considering Nissan is investing significant amounts creating a V8 Aussie Supercar.

James

**FIRE** · 12 Oct 2012, 17:46 (Ref:3150492)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

I would say this is unlikely considering Nissan is investing significant amounts creating a V8 Aussie Supercar.

James

That's a local thing, it delivers not publicity outside Australia.

jsmee · 12 Oct 2012, 18:52 (Ref:3150516)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

That's a local thing, it delivers not publicity outside Australia.

Firstly, I think that's a poor comment in the sense that whilst Aussie V8s are mostly popular in Australia (I admit), there is still a following outside of there.

Secondly, it is irrelevant about publicity. If a company invests masses of money in one project they have less money for another project, simple.

James

Craner Curves · 12 Oct 2012, 21:25 (Ref:3150589)

It's a Nissan Australia project. It wouldn't affect a Nissan Europe budget, which is where any WTCC budget would come from.

jsmee · 12 Oct 2012, 23:53 (Ref:3150636)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

It's a Nissan Australia project. It wouldn't affect a Nissan Europe budget, which is where any WTCC budget would come from.

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

James