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9 Feb 2005, 21:11 (Ref:1221360) | #1 | |
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How Will Webber react if NH trounces Him?
For some reason I can't see Webber taking it in a very sporting way.
I'm not suggesting that Nick will prove convincingly that he is the better driver, but I do feel that the possibility exists. Webber is already being a bit overthe top in some of his comments. example: - In this F1 Racing article the title is "Webber - 'I'd pack it in' " http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=76456 meaning he'd pack it in if the FIA made more changes. He has never even had a podium much less a win. TGF has multiple Championships and he's has not offerred the smallest complaint about the new regulations. I think that part of Webber's frustration might have to do with pressure from NH. |
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NH will come out on top over the season, I believe.
Mark will make more unforced errors than Nick. |
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9 Feb 2005, 21:25 (Ref:1221367) | #3 | ||
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I am not convinced that either is a world class driver but NH will proove to the better of the two. I forsee plenty of tantrums from MW .
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9 Feb 2005, 21:28 (Ref:1221368) | #4 | |
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Mark should shut up and drive.
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9 Feb 2005, 21:37 (Ref:1221376) | #5 | ||
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same way he reacted when pizzonia managed to outshine him at jaguar on very rare occasions, excuses excuses. WHEN nick beats him, he will make up poor excuses for his lack of pace. i like webber. he is a competant driver but he is too over rated. he gets good press not because he amazes in races but he comes across as a nice guy.
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9 Feb 2005, 21:59 (Ref:1221386) | #6 | ||
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Of course Nick will occasionally be in front of Mark but I really don't see it happening too regularly but Mark is a pretty determined kind of guy & I think if he was falling behind he'd push himself & work even harder & come out on top.
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9 Feb 2005, 22:06 (Ref:1221392) | #7 | ||
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Heidfeld doesn't seem to have the edge that makes a very good driver a great one. All the same, I can see his duel with Webber being one of the more interesting team-mate battles, and it should be close between them. Webber has had things his own way in terms of team-mates so far, with a clear advantage over them all in both F1 and F3000. If Webber loses out, it'll be a shock to him, but I think he'll react well to it and retain his obvious dignity and character.
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9 Feb 2005, 22:11 (Ref:1221398) | #8 | ||
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I still don't understand why Williams chose Webber, I think Pizz and Heidfeld would have been the stronger drivers.
What results has Webber ever had in a race to make him worthy of a Williams drive? At least Heidfeld has had a pod. I for one will actually be suprised if Webber lasts the season in the Williams team. |
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9 Feb 2005, 22:13 (Ref:1221400) | #9 | ||
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What planet are you living on, Esor??!
Clearly Webber was much better than Pizzonia. I think it will be close between Webber and Heidfeld all season, and in my opinion, they made the correct driver choice. Last edited by DriverT; 9 Feb 2005 at 22:18. |
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9 Feb 2005, 22:23 (Ref:1221410) | #10 | |
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Who knows?
And at this point of the year, who cares? And I know Frank Williams isn't going to give a hoot who is in front as long as the car is competitive and they are both racing at the front. The only way he will care is if there is a consistently gross imbalance in pace. |
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Hmm, not entirely sure I agree with that bolded comment. JPM and Ralf, by all reports, didn't get along with each other, and maybe Sir Frank thought that they weren't extracting enough from their cars and their talents because they concentrated too much on what each other was being paid, and the friction that generated. |
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9 Feb 2005, 22:33 (Ref:1221419) | #12 | ||
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What an absolute rubbish thread.
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9 Feb 2005, 22:33 (Ref:1221420) | #13 | |
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I have never seen Mark ever crack a tantrum so I can't see that being the case.
It will be close between, let's hope the car is good enough to see them both up the front. |
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9 Feb 2005, 22:58 (Ref:1221448) | #15 | ||
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NH will top him....
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9 Feb 2005, 23:04 (Ref:1221454) | #16 | |
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Webber will come out on top.
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9 Feb 2005, 23:14 (Ref:1221466) | #17 | |
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I'm sure BMW would be keen to see NH as the unofficial 'lead' driver too. I think it will be close between the two, but history has generally shown at Williams that the stronger personality will ultimately win out. Heidfeld seems an easy-going, laid back and generally likeable bloke whereas Webber appears to have somewhat of a chip on his shoulder.
Nick needs to get his race face on and start pulling up some trees. |
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9 Feb 2005, 23:42 (Ref:1221484) | #18 | ||
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Nick isnt easy-going, i recommend you read the latest Theissen interview
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To answer the question: Mark will react badly if Heidfeld trounces him. In the nature of the sport, how else is he meant to react? "oh well I always knew I was kidding people?"
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10 Feb 2005, 00:09 (Ref:1221504) | #20 | ||
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I think this tread is a tad of a over reaction . JV is saying the same thing about the tyre rules I think there both right
IMHO I think Nick will be a tad quicker over the flying lap but the race Mark will have it all his way I also think both driver will work together just fine |
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To be honest, I just can't see NH being any kind of threat. Webber has very quickly established himself as the Alpha driver, espeicially with Sam Micheal and FW who will be the ones who count. What is interesting is that he's done it in a very Shumacher style. If he can convert this tactical position through the season into one where the team builds and operates the car around him and him alone, then he's got a shot at Ferrari. Unless Webber develops a very severe case of the yips, Heidfeld is going to have a hard time being anything more than a reliable pair of hands who will mop up points for the constructors champs and try out development parts in the beemer lumps.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the worst possible thing that could happen to Williams this year is that Heidfeld turns out to be on a par or better than Webber. That would just lead to more driver squabbling. Which is why for Williams, not getting Button or Davison might just be a blessing in disguise. I suspect a workmanlike journeyman like Heidfeld might just be ideal. |
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10 Feb 2005, 02:11 (Ref:1221562) | #23 | ||
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It is with a great deal of amusement that I have read this thread so far. I have no idea where anyone got the idea that MW was even capable of a temper tanturm. If you look back through his career, he has faced massive adversary and set backs with a cheerful and positive demeanour. Not even Mercedes blaming him for destroying their CLK-GTR could deter him from getting on with the job (a statement they quickly retracted once the same thing happened to another driver).
Whilst I understand that it is in a Poms genetic make up to do everything they can to belittle us colonials, even I thought that this thread was a little beneath them. Besides, he's got a bunch of colonials alongside to back him up. |
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Yeah this thread is rather pitifull
Not so much the original question but all those obvious webber haters that are showing their frustration(?) |
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