Just how big is v8supertaxi's circus NOT THAT BIG

TSR · 15 Jul 2006, 10:41 (Ref:1656749)

After surfing the net today and mainly OS motorsport sites I notice a VERY big lack of V8 supertaxi news, and no links to Aussie Bernie so called best touring car racing in the world. but there were links to the DTM.
I will say that most of the sites I looked at were European based sites. But still no news on v8 supertaxi.

But my question is Is the V8 SUPERTAXI series big as what Aussie Bernie & VE$A keep telling us how big it is.?????????????????????????????????????????

peckstar · 15 Jul 2006, 11:35 (Ref:1656783)

and you ask that on an english site... interesting?

ive beeen to quite a few aussie sites and what i noticed is a complete lack of inteest in anything other than Formula one. interesting

you should go over to batracer. its a site when you can manage various car racing teams its english. you can do F1 you go do A1 you can do champ cart, you can do BTCC and you can do V8 supercar. interesting

Forda · 15 Jul 2006, 12:00 (Ref:1656801)

Not that big - perhaps that's why nobody bothers to attend races anymore, at least with the so called premier class of motor racing anyway.

Maybe that's why internet forums such as this one are nothing but a former glimpse of what they were (i.e. when 10's of threads a day were posted)

Maybe NASCAR is not what we wanted, although we were told it was what we wanted...

I'd say the current formula is as boring as it's soon to be implosion, but who really cares.

Remember Bathurst is the only race worth watching, but for what now? Who really cares?

And so it goes on...

peckstar · 15 Jul 2006, 12:27 (Ref:1656811)

you mean apart from the record crowds at most venues Forda.

i think the reason people have stopped coming to internet forums is all the pessimistic fans who bag the v8's, why would fans want to come along and put up with that.

FAST5LT · 15 Jul 2006, 13:18 (Ref:1656836)

I second Peckster. Too many people spend too much time putting **** on the V8SC. If it's so bad, go play golf.

Falcadore · 15 Jul 2006, 14:04 (Ref:1656872)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

you mean apart from the record crowds at most venues Forda.

i think the reason people have stopped coming to internet forums is all the pessimistic fans who bag the v8's, why would fans want to come along and put up with that.

Every crowd is a record crowd. The crowd this year at Winton was noticeably down, but it was still a record.

Nobody believes the crowds are records at every venue and it has gotten to the extent where it is openly ridiculed.

Dobbo89 · 15 Jul 2006, 16:36 (Ref:1656984)

No crowd record true, But I think you will find that the winton inclusion caught a fair few long distance regulars napping, or with other plans, hence the lower crowds, not the V8s. I prefered the "b-pillar" rule much more than the "look but don't touch" rule we seem to have, the spectacle is still the same, just not on TV. The only "bagging" I can do has nothing to do with the cars or series, Its just that the upcoming Bathurst 1000 will be my last for the time being because I have been priced out of it, $900, back in march, got me 2x paddock campsites and 4x four day tickets? I will continue to go to bathurst each year, but this time easter. (providing it improves on this years bimf)

Aarrgh8 · 15 Jul 2006, 21:38 (Ref:1657126)

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Originally Posted by TSR

After surfing the net today and mainly OS motorsport sites I notice a VERY big lack of V8 supertaxi news, and no links to Aussie Bernie so called best touring car racing in the world. but there were links to the DTM.
I will say that most of the sites I looked at were European based sites. But still no news on v8 supertaxi.

You must have been bored. I must have been equally bored when I googled DTM, googling Australian sites only. I found plenty of stuff about Douglas Transport, Digital Terrain Mapping, etc., but had to really search before I found anything about German Touring Car racing. I don't know what this has told any of us. Maybe that German Touring Car racing isn't big in Australia, and V8 Supercars aren't big news on some OS motorsport sites - but didn't we already know that?

WebberForWDC · 16 Jul 2006, 00:59 (Ref:1657197)

Well there's really very little passion as to who wins I reckon.

With Holden not being allowed to manipulate the regulations as much even if they still have the gurney flap and superior aero etc. there isn't that passion for a Ford win I reckon as there was when Radisich and Ambrose were racing an uphill battle.

It's good that Lowndes is the best at the extremely long so-called 'sprint' races, but maybe the races drag on for too long and V8SA's formats need more starts?

No one wants a cut in races, but does running 400 km of racing each meeting cost more than doing 3 x 20 mins or 2 x 100k races? Would more starts add even more cost?

billy bigtime · 16 Jul 2006, 03:29 (Ref:1657218)

V8SC must be HUGE. I read yesterday that TC reckons it will overtake Cricket as Oz's second major sport. He feels the AFL might be a bit hard to overtake though

Chucky · 16 Jul 2006, 03:45 (Ref:1657221)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

Every crowd is a record crowd. The crowd this year at Winton was noticeably down, but it was still a record.

Nobody believes the crowds are records at every venue and it has gotten to the extent where it is openly ridiculed.

I reckon the crowd from the V8 round in 2000 at Winton was bigger.

TSR · 16 Jul 2006, 08:34 (Ref:1657262)

Ditto with Perth.

peckstar · 16 Jul 2006, 08:40 (Ref:1657265)

maybe you too can share with us your expertise on crowd estimating?

PVDA · 16 Jul 2006, 08:54 (Ref:1657267)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

The crowd this year at Winton was noticeably down, but it was still a record.

Actually it was the biggest crowd they've ever had according to the track itself and not the VE$A figures.

You've got to remember with the moving of the merchandising to the cricket ground & people starting to use the spectator areas on the extension the crowd looks smaller but is actually spread out more but bigger if that makes sense. I spent the weekend driving around in the crowd and it seemed bigger to me.

peckstar · 16 Jul 2006, 08:57 (Ref:1657270)

oh and only 15 mins to get out afterwards

take that PI and OP

TSR · 16 Jul 2006, 09:24 (Ref:1657286)

Going on TV pictures from CH10 Darwin crowd was down to on prevoius years.

peckstar · 16 Jul 2006, 09:31 (Ref:1657289)

well that would be why it wasnt a record

Chucky · 16 Jul 2006, 10:36 (Ref:1657332)

The biggest crowd I remember was 2000 and I gauge that on how even over the back of the circuit and halfway down the extension, the crowd was several deep from the fence.

And it took a lot longer than 15 minutes to get back onto the Hume.

peckstar · 16 Jul 2006, 10:44 (Ref:1657339)

because that was in the old days chucky, now they have the beaut new exit/entrance with 5 lanes of traffic, it took us shorter in 2004

kosher_pig · 16 Jul 2006, 10:55 (Ref:1657351)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

because that was in the old days chucky, now they have the beaut new exit/entrance with 5 lanes of traffic, it took us shorter in 2004

no trucks including merchandising ones were allowed to leave the premises till 6.00 pm to allow most of the public to get away quicker

Falcadore · 16 Jul 2006, 13:22 (Ref:1657451)

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RotorFan · 16 Jul 2006, 23:08 (Ref:1657852)

What about the converse? In Australia, DTM doesn't exist. Nor does FIA GT, Le Mans, GP2, WTCC....

Yet V8 Supercars are broadcast around the world, including all of europe. More people know about V8 Supercars in england than Australians about the BTCC...

edit: please don't ask me for figures

racer69 · 16 Jul 2006, 23:57 (Ref:1657869)

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Originally Posted by RotorFan

Yet V8 Supercars are broadcast around the world, including all of europe. More people know about V8 Supercars in england than Australians about the BTCC...

How exactly do you know that? The casual fans in England would know as much about V8Supercars as the casual fans in Australia know about the BTCC, bugger all.......

RotorFan · 17 Jul 2006, 00:27 (Ref:1657875)

Read the previous sentence.

DAVID PATERSON · 17 Jul 2006, 01:47 (Ref:1657892)

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Originally Posted by kosher_pig

no trucks including merchandising ones were allowed to leave the premises till 6.00 pm to allow most of the public to get away quicker

That's not a bad idea.

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