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Old 27 Feb 2003, 15:19 (Ref:519333)   #1
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Best (or least worst) looking Daytona Prototype?

OK, so the reaction to the formula has been rather dismal, to the point where Grand Am's most loyal fans question it, and the cars are slow and the greenhouse's are rather silly in thier size.

Having said that, is there any of the cars that appeal to you in any way? If someone twisted my leg, I would say the Fabcar/Porsche. If you can ignore the greenhouse area, the lines are not that bad. The paint scheme is great as well, and if I had to pick one out of the bunch as my "favorite", it would be this one.

On the opposite end, the Doran has to be the worst, in my view. I see what they are doing in the design department, trying to get the car low and GTP like, but the greenhouse just makes it look like a really low car with a roof that looks even bigger than the other DPs.

OK, so most of us don't like the concept at all, but if you had to pick the best or the worst, what would it be?
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Old 27 Feb 2003, 15:41 (Ref:519362)   #2
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Old 27 Feb 2003, 17:03 (Ref:519435)   #3
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I like Multimatic...a lot of the people said it looks ugly but I find it to be the most attractive...
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Old 27 Feb 2003, 17:33 (Ref:519460)   #4
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I have no problem with the "cost control" concept of DSP, but they are all UGLY. The greenhouses make the cars look like streamlined AMC Pacers.
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Old 27 Feb 2003, 18:21 (Ref:519509)   #5
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pirenzo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridpirenzo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridpirenzo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Nope, not one.
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Old 27 Feb 2003, 19:21 (Ref:519574)   #6
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Best looking DP car?! Um..well..as Pirenzo has said....Not One.
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Old 27 Feb 2003, 19:29 (Ref:519591)   #7
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veeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridveeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridveeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid

...only after a very severe bender would I consider one of these "racers"...beast...er, best looking.

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Old 28 Feb 2003, 06:53 (Ref:520149)   #8
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I like Multimatic...a lot of the people said it looks ugly but I find it to be the most attractive...
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Old 28 Feb 2003, 07:43 (Ref:520161)   #9
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Since there are so few, I can comment on each one.

Fabcar: Quite sleek, looks fast. Looks anyway.
Doran: Rather eggish. Best paint job yet though.
Multimatic: The only one that looks the role. True race car.
Picchio: UGLY!! Never like the perfomance or looks of the SRPII car. Ditto.

It's pretty sad that the Mosler and Gunnar Jeanette Porsche look more like prototypes than GA's "new exciting class." Race more like prototypes than the DPs too.
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Old 28 Feb 2003, 11:40 (Ref:520309)   #10
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You're right, they're all awful. But so's Grand Am! Arf.
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Old 28 Feb 2003, 16:04 (Ref:520546)   #11
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Sorry, as Pirenzo and Co, I'll say 'not one' they look like the ugly prototypes we saw at Lm in the 70' (made in the backyard)...

Sad GrandAm...

PS : the GTs are ok though, and fast !

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Old 28 Feb 2003, 16:35 (Ref:520577)   #12
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If the Fabcar was about 125% it's current size width and length, at the same height, it'd look pretty good. The proportions of these cars are just _awful_, though. No matter how hard you polish a dookie...
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Old 28 Feb 2003, 17:00 (Ref:520594)   #13
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veeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridveeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridveeten should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
another term for turd.
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Old 28 Feb 2003, 23:15 (Ref:520931)   #15
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Well, I was _trying_ to be polite.
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Old 28 Feb 2003, 23:42 (Ref:520959)   #16
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Well, obviously an american thing, i've never heard it either!
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Old 1 Mar 2003, 00:41 (Ref:521012)   #17
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No idea. I thought it was British, but it might be from the west coast of the US.

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anything looks good in red bull colours, now, about that flag on the back though ... that needs to go
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Old 1 Mar 2003, 03:29 (Ref:521096)   #19
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Yup. Big American flag doesn't belong on an Italian car with a German engine and an Austrian sponsor.

I'd be like a massive Union Jack on a Volvo.

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Yup. Big American flag doesn't belong on an Italian car with a German engine and an Italian sponsor.

I'd be like a massive Union Jack on a Volvo.
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Yup the flag's got to go, Infact any flag should be off a car unless it is integral to the car-A MINI witha union jack looks proper even if it is BMW made now (hmm..) The toyota fabcar was it, and the multimatic ford were the best of this horrible bunch, really the dp are hideous, perhaps if the greenhouse was a tad narrower, or shaped. These look like mutilated pieces of bread, much more so than the Pilbeam magic brownies car, i love the 675's they are upstarts (in a proper ALMS type field) Grand AM should call it quits..another thread perhaps?
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They all look as bad as old Gebhard C2 car.
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Old 3 Mar 2003, 08:30 (Ref:523245)   #23
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another term for turd.
Charming ! Poor DPs Well the ''dookie won last race, even if it's not presentable...

('t was my 'how to improve my english skills' minute)

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They all look as bad as old Gebhard C2 car.
that's a bit harsh on the Gebhardt......


Seriously though, what I can't get my head around with the DSPs is the effect that the rollcage and greenhouse dimensions have on the proportions of the whole shape- it just makes them look too wide, and too short and stubby.
If you can deal with that, then the Brumos and Picchio in particular don't look as bad....
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Grand Am thinks they look good....

But even a male baboon thinks that a female baboon looks good, too....doesn't mean that it is true to the rest of the world....
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