Montoya

esorniloc · 23 Mar 2003, 09:21 (Ref:545006)

Where would Montoya have finished if he had not lost 2 laps and a wing, because of Schumachers track congestion at corner 2?

Damon · 23 Mar 2003, 09:22 (Ref:545009)

In with a shout.

Kex · 23 Mar 2003, 09:24 (Ref:545014)

He would have been up there, for certain. I reckon he'd have beaten Alonso but not sure about Raikkonen and Barrichello.

Damon · 23 Mar 2003, 09:27 (Ref:545020)

I reckon he'd have had Barrichello but not Kimi, he was simply awsome today.

corkholio · 23 Mar 2003, 09:30 (Ref:545023)

You can't really guess that unless you know exactly what fuel load he was running. Even had Montoya been in the lead he could have choked again like he did in Australia.

Damon · 23 Mar 2003, 09:32 (Ref:545026)

Well I'll reverse that and say how can you possibly predict that?!

corkholio · 23 Mar 2003, 09:37 (Ref:545032)

Point is could have, would have, should have, blah, blah, blah...

Kex · 23 Mar 2003, 09:38 (Ref:545034)

If is F1 backwards and all that....

**Adam43** · 23 Mar 2003, 09:55 (Ref:545053)

Probably 2nd. Rubens was a bit lackluster, but it would have all depended on if he got stuck behind anyone. I don't think he got an amazing start even before he went out.

Sodemo · 23 Mar 2003, 10:09 (Ref:545073)

Bloody Jungle Boy!

Can't believe what Pizza - face did in that second corner melee.

Pizzonia came charging down the inside with no hope of taking the correct line through the corner.

steve nielsen · 23 Mar 2003, 10:12 (Ref:545083)

that's a new one: Pizzonia took out 2 rear wings in 1 move: JPM and Jos..............

Mr V · 23 Mar 2003, 10:20 (Ref:545099)

Don't think that he would have won, Kimi was too good today, but definatly on the podium.

BootsOntheSide · 23 Mar 2003, 10:24 (Ref:545108)

I think he would've been second. He would've reinforced what an amateur Ralf looked like all weekend. His drive was sueprb at the back, but it's ahrd to know whether he would've been composed. Still, he was level with Kimi going into the corner, ran the same strategy, so he could've challenged for the win. It could've been an even better race but for Pizzonia's rookie mistake.

Don K · 23 Mar 2003, 10:40 (Ref:545134)

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen
that's a new one: Pizzonia took out 2 rear wings in 1 move: JPM and Jos..............

I don't think so.

Pizzonia hit Montoya in the second corner. It looks as if Jos had already lost his rear wing at that moment.

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No.

Pizzonia first hits Montoya (inside of 2nd corner),
then moves outwards,
and hits Verstappen (outside of 2nd corner).

Damon · 23 Mar 2003, 11:01 (Ref:545155)

Now that is talent

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krt917 · 23 Mar 2003, 11:22 (Ref:545185)

I reckon JPM would have been second. Kimi (and the Mclaren) were too fast, but there was something weird (and not very good) about the Bridgestones today so I reckon he'd have beaten Rubens.

RT · 23 Mar 2003, 11:55 (Ref:545219)

Quote:

Originally posted by corkholio
Point is could have, would have, should have, blah, blah, blah...

I couldn't say it any better. At some point in time people have to come down to reality. Juan and the Williams team look more and more like a team that is performing less and less. The future is Kimi and Fernando. It probably arrived this season.

Damon · 23 Mar 2003, 12:02 (Ref:545228)

Juan Pablo is far from underperforming, he seems to be carrying the team at the moment.

RT · 23 Mar 2003, 12:53 (Ref:545249)

Last time I looked, it was Ralf who got the result today.

nameless · 23 Mar 2003, 13:05 (Ref:545255)

judging that ralf finished 4th, i would say jpm could easily have been 3rd, very possibly 2nd, but i think a win would have been much harder, kimi was too good, but it would have been good to see a fight between the two.

Damon · 23 Mar 2003, 13:14 (Ref:545258)

Quote:

Originally posted by RT
Last time I looked, it was Ralf who got the result today.

yeah, and JPM didn't absolutely thrash him today through something entirely out of his control. The fact that he was running at around Ralfs pace for the whole race despite having nothing to fight for says quite a lot.

Don K · 23 Mar 2003, 13:32 (Ref:545269)

Quote:

Originally posted by nameless
judging that ralf finished 4th, i would say jpm could easily have been 3rd, very possibly 2nd, but i think a win would have been much harder, kimi was too good, but it would have been good to see a fight between the two.

If you put it that way, I would say that Coulthard would have easily won the race today.
And we don't know whether or not Montoya would have been able to overtake Michael and Trulli.

garcon · 23 Mar 2003, 13:37 (Ref:545273)

Now, we can't have it both ways chaps. Either we have a predicatable procession, or unpredictability and incident. JPM was unlucky today, as was DC, Jarno Trulli and even JV. Who knows where they and Schumacher would have been otherwise?

Montoya looked fast until the latter stages - there was nothing to fight for, no point breaking it. He'd have been around the podium I'm sure. I actually thought Ralf came through the race itself pretty well after a truly shocking and demoralising weekend.

Sodemo · 23 Mar 2003, 18:09 (Ref:545501)

Im sure Montoya could have lapped a lot faster than he did, but what would have been the point when your 2/3 laps down?

Lapping slower would have increased his chances of finishing, it would also guarantee data for the team and in Sepang's heat I think he was just playing sensible knowing he has 3 days of testing in Jerez in a few days time.

Mania · 23 Mar 2003, 18:22 (Ref:545514)

Quote:

Originally posted by Damon
The fact that he was running at around Ralfs pace for the whole race despite having nothing to fight for says quite a lot.

Your bias is laughable! Ive heard about adoring fans but you're something else!

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