welcome 2....

kdr · 20 May 2002, 11:38 (Ref:290170)

the new curve...

**Adam43** · 20 May 2002, 11:46 (Ref:290188)

Thanks.

It might just be the perspective, but inifinite gravel trap

Where was the picture taken from (in the spectator area)?
How close can you get to the track at this point?
What about on the other side? (fairground side)

kdr · 20 May 2002, 12:00 (Ref:290213)

adam

a little lost in the perspective, but the gravel trap here is BIG...although not as big as the section where it joins the bugatti circuit...i think i saw john mills lost in a truck there

the spectator area is about 10 foot behind me, but its lost a lot of height since last year and the debris fencing is still there. although you do get a good view of them as they take the corner to the right of this picture.

fairground side isn't nearly as far away, although as you can see the track pulls away at the apex where it rejoins the old esses.

the fairground side view i thought was pretty spectacular...the cars are obviously a little slower as the come from under the bridge, but you can get a good look-see as they go by, and follow them all the way as they swoop down. if anything its the view from inside opposite thats lost a little.

The Brethren · 20 May 2002, 13:22 (Ref:290363)

Thought I'd throw in a couple of shots I took from just down from the Dunlop Bridge.
Gives a slightly wider view.
Rusty

The Brethren · 20 May 2002, 13:26 (Ref:290371)

Second image didn't want to attach first time round, so here it is now !
Rusty

FG1 · 20 May 2002, 13:32 (Ref:290388)

The great thing about the new part of the track is that you can see the cars for a long stretch of tarmac. You can't get that close, but you can see them come under the bridge and corkscrew all the way down into the esses. At PQ a lot of people were watching from there.

FG

The Brethren · 20 May 2002, 13:36 (Ref:290398)

I loved the view from where I was, don't know what it'll be like on race day, but I'd imagine you'll need to get there damned early if you wan to bag the best spots.
I didn't get around to the fairground side, but the two tiers of banking must provide sensational viewing from the bridge and pretty much all the way round to tertre rouge.
Rusty

Lee Janotta · 20 May 2002, 13:46 (Ref:290419)

Hmmph! That's it, I'm boycotting. No way I'm going to LeMans this year!

paulzinho · 20 May 2002, 15:20 (Ref:290493)

I still miss the old version.

*walks off grumpily*

cybersdorf · 20 May 2002, 16:28 (Ref:290600)

He's a Young Conservative, see

FG1 · 20 May 2002, 16:45 (Ref:290612)

Quote:

Originally posted by paulzinho
I still miss the old version.

*walks off grumpily*

Joking apart, so do we all. Most irritating is that these changes were not implemented to improve the safety of the cars (though I think they probably have) but to improve the safety for the bikes. The profile of the track both before and after the Dunlop Bridge has been changed for the FIM.

Sadly the ACO have these changes forced on them in order to keep the bike races at the circuit.

We have to take what positive things we can from this, and the viewing area for the public is now very good.

* Gallic shrug * !!

FG

kdr · 20 May 2002, 16:58 (Ref:290618)

i did try to attach an image of the old layout as "welcome3" , but the computer didn't want to know. i guess that says it all!

btw rusty...i took a picture at tertre rouge, looking backwards. you can now see all the way back to the dunlop bridge...so i guess you're right.

still a shame about all that gravel though.

The Brethren · 20 May 2002, 18:22 (Ref:290695)

Yeah, those sand pits are huge, I'd like to know what engineer worked those out. I guess he must have put a decimal point in the wrong place when he was working out the speeds, looks like he's allowed for vehicles leaving the circuit at 1500mph ( won't be the Morgan then

). At least they haven't screwed up viewing like they have at Indianapolis where it now virtually impossible to see up the track unless you are 8 feet tall or have a

step ladder !! ( same engineer maybe ?? Maybe he should team up with the guys at Rockingham and their porous surfaced track, which is now being completely resurfaced !! Whoops )

Rusty

( Not long to go now boys

woo hoo !!)

**Aysedasi** · 21 May 2002, 01:37 (Ref:291037)

Quote:

Originally posted by kdr
i think i saw john mills lost in a truck there

I think that dates you a bit doesn't it, "Alex"?

Now where did I leave that

shovel? Oh yes, somewhere out near Mulsanne Corner, I think........

AllonFS · 21 May 2002, 08:05 (Ref:291166)

Make sure you keep those beers ice cold.

kdr · 21 May 2002, 08:15 (Ref:291172)

sylvia sims...mmmm

milka duno...eat your heart out!

**Aysedasi** · 21 May 2002, 13:29 (Ref:291471)

Quote:

Originally posted by kdr
sylvia sims...mmmm

milka duno...eat your heart out!

Yep, Sylvia was quite a looker in her day!

By the way, here's one of Fab's shots of the location we've been talking of

http://www.aysedasi.btinternet.co.uk...Fab/FabTD1.jpg

FG1 · 21 May 2002, 13:32 (Ref:291478)

Quote:

Originally posted by Aysedasi

http://www.aysedasi.btinternet.co.uk...Fab/FabTD1.jpg

Dudd link Ayse.

FG

FG1 · 21 May 2002, 13:34 (Ref:291481)

Quote:

Originally posted by kdr
sylvia sims...mmmm

milka duno...eat your heart out!

Sorry, it's Milka for me every time. A brainy South American bimbo with as 220mph car. She can give me a lift anytime.

FG

**Aysedasi** · 21 May 2002, 13:43 (Ref:291505)

Quote:

Originally posted by FG1

Dudd link Ayse.

FG

Sorry - you must have tried it almost as soon as I posted it! I tried it myself and realised I'd messed up. It should be OK now. (Well, it was for me!).

Fab · 21 May 2002, 14:17 (Ref:291543)

Quote:

Originally posted by Aysedasi
Sorry - you must have tried it almost as soon as I posted it! I tried it myself and realised I'd messed up. It should be OK now. (Well, it was for me!).

Ayse, thanks for posting them ! I'm embarassed (by the modesty of them) but proud (that despite I took them with a small numeric camera you posted them anyway !)...

I can't succeed to have the seventh on my screen (the last down on the right)... I only get a small red cross...

Some more - nice - pictures of the PQ taken by Bernard Brothier :
http://brothier.ifrance.com/brothier/
They are all here !

**Adam43** · 21 May 2002, 14:41 (Ref:291569)

Quote:

http://www.aysedasi.btinternet.co.u.../Fab/FabTD1.jpg

Great picture! The best I've seen in giving me an idea of what is going on.

Thanks.