Reiter Engineering Lamborghini

BSchneiderFan · 27 Aug 2005, 10:28 (Ref:1392380)

Encouraging signs for Reiter at Oschersleben, with Norman Simon running sixth in practice. But is it all too late? We've had these "promising signs" from the Reiter Lambo before, but where is it all leading? They haven't been able to turn promising signs into a successful full season, and time must surely be running out, with the Maseratis arriving in force this year and the Astons next. Regretfully, I'd suggest that if we don't see the Lambo at every race next season, and running quickly, then the project is dead.

cmk · 27 Aug 2005, 19:20 (Ref:1392611)

I read somewhere yesterday that a chassis had just been purchased by Bernard Muller with the intention of entering it at LM next year with Michael Trunk. So, not dead, but I'm not so sure it's hale and hearty either.

The car's certainly not the worst thing in the world, as it could be a handy LMES tool...see Kox & Simon @ Monza with steel brakes and all. It just seems to be imperfect, too much drag inhibiting straightline speed and a problem with putting any heat in the tires. Very rare that you have a car that's *too* easy on the boots, but this one seems to be as it has frequently been said to be faster on worn rubber.

fausto · 27 Aug 2005, 19:53 (Ref:1392629)

maybe the car just need development, nothing more....its best performance came at Monza (LMES round), where the car made its debut back in 2003, and raced again a couple of time this year (FIA and Italian GT), before the 1000 Km....

Spiteful · 28 Aug 2005, 13:42 (Ref:1392963)

The design might have a few inherent aero probs. The tire issues and the need to run with high drag suggests they have trouble finding downforce. Or they need to run with lower downforce because of a draggy car. In my humble opinion ofcourse.

jross427 · 28 Aug 2005, 22:54 (Ref:1393321)

i think devolpment would be the best, and track time also. if its not heating tires enough, try going a little more aggresive suspension wise, drop the spring rates in all four corners the same amount. i think by the looks of the car, it lacks front downforce, and having nothing in the back means that the only real downforce is coming from the wing, and if you run to much wing, it'll try to pull the front up at high speed. so maybe they are always having to run a low drag set-up.

Bramzel · 29 Aug 2005, 11:04 (Ref:1393620)

From what I've heard the relationship between Reiter and Michelin isn't that good anymore, Reiter despirately want's the Lambo on Pirellis but Michelin is holding him to the contract. Curious if it'll solve the problems, fair chance taking in mind that Pirelli has the best mid-engined-car (MC12, Saleen) tires at the moment while Michelin is excelling more at the front-engined-cars (550, DBR9, Corvette).

panoz.lmp1 · 29 Aug 2005, 12:06 (Ref:1393649)

That was the problem yesterday. They didn´t got the tires on temperature. Their fastest race lap was lap 104!!!

Go_For_Pole · 29 Aug 2005, 19:19 (Ref:1393898)

Did they get Michelin to develop a tyre suitable for mid engined cars? Originally that was a huge problem for the team

lj79 · 29 Aug 2005, 19:39 (Ref:1393927)

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Originally Posted by jross427

i think devolpment would be the best, and track time also. if its not heating tires enough, try going a little more aggresive suspension wise, drop the spring rates in all four corners the same amount.

Perhaps you should give them a call...

jross427 · 30 Aug 2005, 03:47 (Ref:1394159)

do u have there phone number im looking for a job

cmk · 30 Aug 2005, 15:22 (Ref:1394558)

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Originally Posted by jross427

do u have there phone number im looking for a job

Reiter Engineering
GmbH & Co Kg
Boss: Hans Reiter
Street: Leobendorferstraße 39
Town: 83417 Kirchanschöring
Phone: +49 (0) 86 85 / 77 92-0
Fax: +49 (0) 86 85 / 77 92 18
E-mail: info@reiter-engineering.com

Just call up Hans and tell him you know more than he or his employees do about setting up a suspension on a Murcielago, and more than Nick Galbraith about its aero package. I'm sure he'd be delighted to chat!

lj79 · 30 Aug 2005, 20:16 (Ref:1394845)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Just call up Hans and tell him you know more than he or his employees do about setting up a suspension on a Murcielago, and more than Nick Galbraith about its aero package. I'm sure he'd be delighted to chat!

I called him and told him he needs to raise the rear wing 3 feet, blue neon lights under the car, a bigger bass tube to make the tunes large and a set of 1000 watt fog lamps. Oh and an "On a Mission" visor strip on the windscreen and change its name to Vauxhall Corsa

TheNewBob · 30 Aug 2005, 20:21 (Ref:1394847)

Be funny if they actually run that in the next race lol - be even funnier if it went better than normal too!

cmk · 30 Aug 2005, 23:08 (Ref:1395031)

If he wants to market cars to American teams he need only change the name from Vauxhall Corsa to Acura Integra! He should, however, at least add a healthy collection of spurious "Type-R" decals to it in that case...

Either that or he should tint the rather minimal window space very dark, put some crazzzy spinnnazzzz on it and tack a Cadillac logo to the grill.

Bramzel · 31 Aug 2005, 09:31 (Ref:1395313)

Might as well change the names in the team then. Reiter Enginizzle led by Grandmaster Hans. Driven by Pimp Kox and Norman "Bling" Simon

To get back on topic though; in Oschers there were 2 Gallardo's with Reiter stickers on them in the paddock, to me that's a sign that development will commence very soon if it hasn't been started already.

BSchneiderFan · 31 Aug 2005, 10:04 (Ref:1395340)

There's a fundamental question to be answered, I suppose. Is the Reiter Engineering project simply running on too tight a budget, or is the Murcielago essentially an uncompetitive car? From a layman's point of view, a low-slung, mid-engined V12 supercar should be very quick, but there may be more to it than that.

It's a shame that Audi Sport withdrew their support for the project.

TheNewBob · 31 Aug 2005, 11:01 (Ref:1395400)

I think people on this forum have posed the thought before that it's likely to be money - which seems to fit right, with me - didn't they score a podium with the car in late 2003? and their qualifying positions this year haven't been too bad. Again it's been said here that the car goes so much better on used tyres - if they had a few more banknotes then maybe they could get that sorted so much easier...?

Dauer 962 · 6 Sep 2005, 18:28 (Ref:1400634)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

To get back on topic though; in Oschers there were 2 Gallardo's with Reiter stickers on them in the paddock, to me that's a sign that development will commence very soon if it hasn't been started already.

They have the Gallardo currently under development for the German Endurance series.

check www.lambo-racing.de

On their HP is written that Reiter is making some basis development for possible GT3 entry in 06.

**FIRE** · 6 Sep 2005, 18:52 (Ref:1400659)

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Originally Posted by Dauer 962

They have the Gallardo currently under development for the German Endurance series.

You mean Langstreckenpokal?
I thought V10's are not allowed in that series.

panoz.lmp1 · 6 Sep 2005, 19:18 (Ref:1400673)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

You mean Langstreckenpokal?
I thought V10's are not allowed in that series.

V10 are not allowed in the "24special". But the Lamborghini is not a real devolment. Thats a road car with a rollcage and a few set-up modifications. Not a real GT3 or GT2 car.

**FIRE** · 6 Sep 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1400681)

So "road" cars with V10 are allowed, except in 24h of The Ring? The Zakspeed Viper for example has to run on 8 cylinders during the 24h race.

TheNewBob · 6 Sep 2005, 19:23 (Ref:1400682)

Why no V10's?

**FIRE** · 6 Sep 2005, 19:25 (Ref:1400685)

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Originally Posted by TheNewBob

Why no V10's?

To give Audi, Opel and BMW a chance to win.

panoz.lmp1 · 6 Sep 2005, 19:44 (Ref:1400705)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

So "road" cars with V10 are allowed, except in 24h of The Ring? The Zakspeed Viper for example has to run on 8 cylinders during the 24h race.

In the 24special the maxmimum engine size is 6.2 V8

marcush. · 7 Sep 2005, 01:23 (Ref:1400961)

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Originally Posted by lj79

Perhaps you should give them a call...

I´m a ohlins employee and got to know the hard way that dampers can be too good to the tyres...
Rest assured,dropping the spring rate is not the answer,wrong direction.
but if it was easy they ´d surely have found a way out by now.

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