2CV 24hr

[Guinness2702]

Does anybody know who is CM for the 2CV 24? Is it Pete Harding again?

Thanks.

[blueoval2]

It will be Mike Whitney.

[simon_blay]

I live in Bristol and am contemplating the trip for the weekend. Worthwhile?!

[White flag man]

24 hr races are always worthwhile and this is the only one left in this country. It is also one of the friendliest race meetings you will ever go to.
See you there.

[Guinness2702]

Originally Posted by blueoval2

It will be Mike Whitney.

Thanks! Can you / somebody PM me contact details, please?

Thanks again!

[Guinness2702]

Originally Posted by simon_blay

I live in Bristol and am contemplating the trip for the weekend. Worthwhile?!

As WFM said, it's a great meeting, and I love doing it. Probably my fave meeting after the Britcar 24, and that's not happening this year .... and now it looks like I might not be able to do some / all of this one

Thing to bear in mind most, is that you might be 'stuck' on a post in the middle of the night for 4 hours on your own, but I was quite happy to do that. Usually enough going on, even if only radio reports from other posts, to keep you occupied, and last couple of years I've done it, there's been plenty of cars (was it 36 last year?)

As with all things, the best way to find out is to try it once, for yourself.

[blueoval2]

Sorry this meeting should be scrapped! Yes a few marshals enjoy it every year I have done it twice, but every year you struggle for numbers for one simple reason there isn’t enough marshals who want to do it. The support races are good and yes the night part of it can be quite enjoyable, but the Sunday just drags on too long. How long is it before there is a serious accident because posts are single manned especially during the hours of darkness?

[SWCRacing]

Nice post....

Now I am no expert, but i'm pretty sure most if not all "serious" accidents are not caused by marshal posts being single manned.....

If there is a "serious" accident, I am sure the response would be the same whether the posts are manned singularly or by a multitude of marshals..... ie red flag and immediate dispatch of relevent personel....

But what do I know.....

[blueoval2]

Originally Posted by SWCRacing

Nice post....

Now I am no expert, but i'm pretty sure most if not all "serious" accidents are not caused by marshal posts being single manned.....

If there is a "serious" accident, I am sure the response would be the same whether the posts are manned singularly or by a multitude of marshals..... ie red flag and immediate dispatch of relevent personel....

But what do I know.....

I was thinking more about a marshal getting hurt, i do actually know were most accidents happen!! so if you trip or slip in the dark on your own who will call for help.

[Postie]

"I was thinking more about a marshal getting hurt, i do actually know were most accidents happen!! so if you trip or slip in the dark on your own who will call for help"

Ghostbusters ?

[Peter Harding]

Catching up - Yes the CM is Mike Whitney - I get the job of planning the shifts/allocation with Mike then, at the event, I will be used on the radio.

Thats the radio that is allocated to all posts and it is their way of contacting race control if there is a problem. They will also keep an eye on posts (especially if single manned) on the cameras and with timely calls.

Of course, the real solution is more marshals but that will only happen if more come along and then, with no single manning, even more will come.

Sort of a catch 22 here.

I may even get out on the bank myself this year as my new hips are allowing me to walk better - running might have to wait till next week.

[Shelagh]

Pete: Great to hear about your bionic hips.

Other Posters: You either do endurance racing or you don't. If not, then quit whinging about it and don't bother volunteering in the first place. And I don't expect you to ever do the Le Mans 24Hrs either, even though you would be missing an experience of a lifetime.

[blueoval2]

Originally Posted by Shelagh

Pete: Great to hear about your bionic hips.

Other Posters: You either do endurance racing or you don't. If not, then quit whinging about it and don't bother volunteering in the first place. And I don't expect you to ever do the Le Mans 24Hrs either, even though you would be missing an experience of a lifetime.

I wasn't whinging about endurance racing I actually like it having done serveral Britcar 24hrs, I was just putting my view across. Which is what I thought this forum was for..

[thepits!]

I love endurance races, I've never done Le Mans, but I did do loads of the Willhire 24 Hour races [and the 25 hour in 1989] - Remember them? What an eclectic mix of cars we had!

Obviously 24 hours is not everyone's cup of tea - hence the concern on single manning. I was lucky enough to always be in the Pits, so loads of people around, even if when I was Chief it was more like 5 hours on and 3 hours off - but it was still fun.

[Shelagh]

Originally Posted by blueoval2

I wasn't whinging about endurance racing I actually like it having done serveral Britcar 24hrs, I was just putting my view across. Which is what I thought this forum was for..

This was just a general view of mine. And I'm as good at whinging as the next man - when I think (sorry, "know") I'm right. (As a female, I'm always right......)

So please accept my apologies for any affront taken.

But I still hold to the view that if you don't like long races in the UK then you should be forever barred from working at the best race of them all at Le Mans!

[PSM3449]

Originally Posted by Postie

"I was thinking more about a marshal getting hurt, i do actually know were most accidents happen!! so if you trip or slip in the dark on your own who will call for help"

Ghostbusters ?

Don't forget all posts can be seen by at least 2 other posts, so hopefully if anything terrible happened they would call for help!

[Guinness2702]

Originally Posted by Guinness2702

.... and now it looks like I might not be able to do some / all of this one

Scratch that, looks like I might be able to make it after all!

[Bodysnatcher]

now all we need are tickets (oops did'nt mean to say that)

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by Shelagh

But I still hold to the view that if you don't like long races in the UK then you should be forever barred from working at the best race of them all at Le Mans!

If you think about it that's not much of a threat. Speaking personally, I hate endurance races (doesn't make me a bad person!) so I'm not likely to want to do one in France!

[Cynic]

In Blueovals defence, I can sort of understand what he's saying although it could have been worded better. I've done a number of daytime meetings over the years where posts have been single-manned, and in my view it does adversely affect how incidents are dealt with, but night-time marshaling is a different matter. As has been said you either 'get' 24hr racing or you don't and in the Uk at least p*** poor manning levels appear to be be part and parcel of it. (anyone remember the the first Britcar 24hr? If you had three on post you were overmanned!). For me personal safety dicates that during darkness I'm not going to leave post unless it's mega serious. Otherwise rescue can get out and earn their donut breaks!

[Guinness2702]

Originally Posted by Cynic

For me personal safety dicates that during darkness I'm not going to leave post unless it's mega serious. Otherwise rescue can get out and earn their donut breaks!

You can't do that on your own anyway; you'd have to operate the flags/light wand, and just call it in.

I did go trackside for a pull off, in the small hours, a couple of years ago, but there were 2 of us on post for that, and it was in a fairly safe place .... plus, I feel a bit safer with these drivers than ... shall we say some others. I've seen others go trackside in the past too .... last year, one ran wide at Riches, and rolled onto its side, well clear of the track... again, that one was double manned, and I was keeping an extra pair of eyes on it.

IMHO, single manning is safe if it's an experienced and competent marshal who knows when to call for help, but drivers are going to have to accept that there will be more SCs and stops, simply because I'm gonna call for help if I'm not sure that a driver is okay, or there's some hazard which needs marshals to attend.

[blueoval2]

As Cynic has said my wording could have been better and I know Peter and Mike will have marshals safety uppermost in the minds, all I was getting at was a person could trip or slip just while stretching their legs, and in the dark you can’t always see post to post but I know the radio checks will be very regular. I’m not a fan of the 2cv 24hr but a know a lot of you are, I hope you all have an enjoyable and safe weekend…

[White flag man]

Originally Posted by blueoval2

As Cynic has said my wording could have been better and I know Peter and Mike will have marshals safety uppermost in the minds, all I was getting at was a person could trip or slip just while stretching their legs, and in the dark you can’t always see post to post but I know the radio checks will be very regular. I’m not a fan of the 2cv 24hr but a know a lot of you are, I hope you all have an enjoyable and safe weekend…

So lets say that motor racing should be banned because someone could, and often has, got hurt.
If you don't like it, fair enough, but don't say it should be banned, that's ridiculous. It is the friendliest meeting in the country and the marshals are treated far better than in most meetings. Those marshals that do 24hr races know what to expect and what to do, and I for one can't wait to be back.

[blueoval2]

Originally Posted by White flag man

So lets say that motor racing should be banned because someone could, and often has, got hurt.
If you don't like it, fair enough, but don't say it should be banned, that's ridiculous. It is the friendliest meeting in the country and the marshals are treated far better than in most meetings. Those marshals that do 24hr races know what to expect and what to do, and I for one can't wait to be back.

Now who's being ridiculous, i'm not saying ban it and yes it is a very friendly meeting, how about trying another circuit where you may attract more marshals. I enjoy endurance racing and yes we all know the dangers i have done plenty of 24hr races and have done this meeting twice..

[Guinness2702]

Originally Posted by White flag man

and I for one can't wait to be back.

Can't make it tonight, but see you all at sign-on tomorrow