SCV8

redshoes · 14 Feb 2008, 18:26 (Ref:2128935)

One for our longer-term readers I think.

Interesting ad on p36 of this week's Autosport. The entire SCV8 package is for sale - Jaguar X-Type demo car, spares, engines, CAD design, tooling, championship regs, the lot.

For those of you who don't remember, SCV8 was a proposed race formula developed by Andy Rouse. It used a RWD spec chassis with a production steel body powered by a V8 engine.

First seen briefly in 2000 with a Peugeot 406, it then re-appeared in a new form in 2004 with a Jag X-Type. The (proposed) series was put on hold for a year but never seen again.

**FIRE** · 14 Feb 2008, 18:51 (Ref:2128956)

Something for ITR?

nickyf1 · 14 Feb 2008, 21:09 (Ref:2129104)

Ah, yes, SCV8, or was it not V8SC? I was always looking foward to this championship, but unfortunately, never actually started. Intresting ad, me thinks the forum should buy it..

kipper · 14 Feb 2008, 21:24 (Ref:2129120)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

Ah, yes, SCV8, or was it not V8SC? I was always looking foward to this championship, but unfortunately, never actually started.

It was SCV8. Its a pity the competition never took off; from memory I seem to remember a number of reasons, one (perhaps unsuprisingly) was the running costs of such a car and I seem to remember reading in Autosport a couple of years back that there were difficulties in securing enough dates for a series. It'll be interesting to see whether anyone purchases the project and makes a success of it.

JMeissner · 14 Feb 2008, 21:38 (Ref:2129136)

How much is it?

duke_toaster · 14 Feb 2008, 21:40 (Ref:2129139)

Let's hope someone buys the demo car and takes it to Britcar rather than harming the current touring car situation by starting ANOTHER series ...

rdjones · 14 Feb 2008, 21:45 (Ref:2129140)

IIRC 3 teams where signed up - Team Dymanics, Team Varta and VLR.

kipper · 14 Feb 2008, 21:47 (Ref:2129144)

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Originally Posted by JMeissner

How much is it?

The ad doesn't give a price. Pity really, as I'm curious to find out.

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Let's hope someone buys the demo car and takes it to Britcar rather than harming the current touring car situation by starting ANOTHER series ...

The advert does say that the Jaguar could be sold seperately so someone racing it in likes of Britcar is a possibility. However, I would imagine such a scenario would be dependent on the costs of the car and its performance relative to a Porsche, Ferrari, etc. As for someone starting another series in Britain; I would be surprised. Ultimately, Andy Rouse and Peter Hall were unable to start racing their project and Jonathan Palmer was unable to get a similar concept off the ground. That said, the project could be sold to a region without many established motor racing competitons.

duke_toaster · 14 Feb 2008, 21:51 (Ref:2129150)

That's the point - it would harm the BTCC in the short run. Touring car racing has too many series in existance for its own good and it would be barking mad to start a new series pretty much anywhere, but some people in the world aren't just Barking, they're Upminster.

redshoes · 14 Feb 2008, 22:15 (Ref:2129170)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

Ah, yes, SCV8, or was it not V8SC?

As I recall it was originally V8 Supercars (V8SC) until the Aussies complained and it became SCV8.

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Something for ITR?

Hadn't thought about that until now but actually it would make a suitable replacement for the current DTM. If it wasn't for the new NASCAR-like Speedcar series I could see it working it working in the Middle East as well. It was never viable as a UK series then and still isn't now.

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Originally Posted by kipper

The advert does say that the Jaguar could be sold seperately so someone racing it in likes of Britcar is a possibility.

That was exactly my thoughts when I saw the ad. It's claimed the Jaguar is comparable to GT3 lap times and there seems to be a lot of people in Britcar with money to spend.

Chris Y · 15 Feb 2008, 10:29 (Ref:2129479)

I'll buy it, start a series, and call it "Interactive Sports Cars".

Oh, wait.. No I won't

supertouring · 17 Feb 2008, 17:29 (Ref:2130973)

I have a small collection of items from this proposed series inc several car reviews in CCC mag, some autosport items plus a series brochure I manged to buy of ebay a few years ago.

I seem to recall it was a "silhouette" series with identical chassis and engines but wrapped in what looked like production bodyshells. The Rouse concept was to design the chassis so that it would be easy to fit the shell from a range of manufacturers four door saloons.

Engine was originally a Lotus badged item but when the jag was shown at Autosport show it was supporting a Nicolson Mclaren item.

There is also a small film of Justin Wilson driving the jag here

Hazard · 17 Feb 2008, 18:00 (Ref:2130993)

Just like 'Touring 1', turned out to be nothing to worry about.

ss_collins · 17 Feb 2008, 19:06 (Ref:2131025)

SCV8, Supercar V8, Touring 1, That pug thing that was at the Autosport show in 2006... all overpriced nonsense.

awrb · 17 Feb 2008, 20:18 (Ref:2131086)

Definatly cool looking and sounding car, but for entertainment, i doubt it would have challenged the BTCC.

Hope someone does buy it up and use it next year, a good looking car, and there's just not enough Jaguars racing at the moment.

JamesRamone · 17 Feb 2008, 20:19 (Ref:2131088)

I think the basic idea of this series was good, however it was always doomed to failure, and i can't see anyone purchasing it and getting it off the ground

**FIRE** · 17 Feb 2008, 20:26 (Ref:2131100)

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Originally Posted by ss_collins

SCV8, Supercar V8, Touring 1, That pug thing that was at the Autosport show in 2006... all overpriced nonsense.

Overpriced? What did these cars cost?

Piglet · 17 Feb 2008, 21:58 (Ref:2131253)

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Originally Posted by Chris Y

I'll buy it, start a series, and call it "Interactive Sports Cars".

Oh, wait.. No I won't

Can you name the champion?

ss_collins · 18 Feb 2008, 00:19 (Ref:2131468)

FIRE - I forget - but I think it was £200,000. I'll look in the mag from that year in the morning because I wrote a fairly scornful piece about it

Chatters · 18 Feb 2008, 03:27 (Ref:2131522)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

As I recall it was originally V8 Supercars (V8SC) until the Aussies complained and it became SCV8.

We didn't complain, Tony Cochrane did.

His views don't reflect that of anyone else within 2,000,000 miles!

Marshal · 18 Feb 2008, 20:25 (Ref:2132073)

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Originally Posted by Chris Y

I'll buy it, start a series, and call it "Interactive Sports Cars".

Oh, wait.. No I won't

Ah, there's a job for you at BRSCC with vision like that. Unfortunately.

kipper · 18 Feb 2008, 20:30 (Ref:2132076)

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Originally Posted by Piglet

Can you name the champion?

From memory (although I'm not too sure why I remember), Dave Warnock and James Pickford won the only race of the Interactive Sportscar Championship.

**FIRE** · 19 Feb 2008, 20:52 (Ref:2132849)

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Originally Posted by ss_collins

FIRE - I forget - but I think it was £200,000. I'll look in the mag from that year in the morning because I wrote a fairly scornful piece about it

That's expensive. I think V8Star was something like €120k-150k.

duke_toaster · 19 Feb 2008, 21:46 (Ref:2132882)

Some series over the years were worse ideas than the XFL :P

ss_collins · 19 Feb 2008, 21:51 (Ref:2132885)

yup was £200k...

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