Another change to qually.

Marbot · 6 Jul 2006, 17:03 (Ref:1649741)

Five minutes to be lopped off the boring bit,which should see things get a little more hectic.It's still a maybe though.http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=28623

Knowlesy · 6 Jul 2006, 17:31 (Ref:1649759)

Should be done in time for Magny Cours, but needs to be approved by the World Council first.....it could happen, and qualifying would be the better for it!

**Bononi** · 6 Jul 2006, 18:38 (Ref:1649808)

Five minutes... not much of a change.

Knowlesy · 6 Jul 2006, 18:38 (Ref:1649809)

It doesn't sound much, but it'll make a definite difference.

marzF1rocks · 6 Jul 2006, 18:50 (Ref:1649819)

fans have been moaning about losing that five minutes since the start of the season. No great surprise really.

Not really going to make that much difference is it

Marbot · 6 Jul 2006, 18:59 (Ref:1649824)

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Originally Posted by marzF1rocks

Not really going to make that much difference is it

They'll have five minutes less to burn all that fuel off,so they might have to circulate quicker in order to get their fuel credit back.I think five minutes could make all the difference,especially if it rains.

ralf fan · 6 Jul 2006, 19:05 (Ref:1649828)

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Originally Posted by martyn bott

especially if it rains.

which will never happen as long as you are alive....

Silk Cut Jaguar · 6 Jul 2006, 19:29 (Ref:1649841)

Why oh why can't they see that nobody likes the race fuel rule? It's dull and barely conquers up any surprising results.

I'm glad they want to lop off that extra 5 minutes but it wasn't the change that needed pushing through.

Louis B. · 6 Jul 2006, 19:35 (Ref:1649845)

A slight but still an improvement IMHO.

A minor concern I have is that this might increase the importance of the pit stop strategy on the outcome of qualifying. With the current system, we at least know that they all have at least enough fuel for 20 minutes of racing (unless the car remains in its garage for part of the last session). The change might make the possibility of a 3 pit stop strategy more likely for a better position on the grid.

Knowlesy · 6 Jul 2006, 19:36 (Ref:1649846)

Yep, the fuel thing is a bit of a gripe.

But it was never touted for a change so I feel less dissapointed about it than I possibly could be.

Yazz · 6 Jul 2006, 20:44 (Ref:1649889)

Thank God! Half a season going by without yet another qually change must have been a recent record for the FIA.

BootsOntheSide · 6 Jul 2006, 21:55 (Ref:1649927)

In real terms, teams have lost the chance to burn off 5 minutes' worth of fuel, which is going to tip the balance slightly towards making more pitstops.If a car starts with 30 laps of fuel, and another with 20, they would perhaps drop to 22 and 12 laps' when they do the flying lap with a 20-minute session, but 25 and 15 with a 15-minute session, thus reducing the relative advantage of being light. Sorry about the maths.

Completely changing the system mid-season would be impractical and hard to explain, this is a much more reasonable refinement, although perhaps they could add some time to the early sessions, or allow started laps to finish?

Louis B. · 6 Jul 2006, 22:43 (Ref:1649944)

Boots' post brings to my mind the wish that, if they cut by 5 minutes the last session, that they will now let the cars complete their final lap in the first two sessions if started before the expiration of the clock as with the final session.

Dutton · 7 Jul 2006, 00:53 (Ref:1649990)

Allowing them to finish laps in the first two, having removed 5 minutes from the final session, would represent a decent step forward IMHO.

Let us hope that can happen.

**Bononi** · 7 Jul 2006, 01:33 (Ref:1649997)

Well, it looks promising then, if it doesn't harm the TV breaks then it will happen...

aj_308 · 7 Jul 2006, 01:51 (Ref:1649999)

Qualifying is fantastic this year, its been more interesting than a few of the races.

Schummy · 7 Jul 2006, 03:37 (Ref:1650018)

Qualifying session could improve a bit if they, at last, learn how to make better screen info. I particularly like the system used in FIM bikes GPs, informative and not intrusive.

Americans also do a good job of screen info in their series IMO. It's a bit surprising how relatively few upgrade has had in F1 along the years in this field.

Dutton · 7 Jul 2006, 06:31 (Ref:1650038)

I totally agree.

Although, this year, to be fair, Bernie's graphics have taken a definite step forward (much room for improvement, though).

Pingguest · 7 Jul 2006, 15:58 (Ref:1650348)

The FIA has admitted that 20 minutes of fuel burning wasn't too interesting, but it thinks that 15 minutes of the same fuel burning is more interesting to watch...

Why don't they just leave it, and scrap that fuel burning for 2007?

And this will be the 7th qualifying format since 2003!

Marbot · 7 Jul 2006, 16:04 (Ref:1650356)

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Originally Posted by Pingguest

The FIA has admitted that 20 minutes of fuel burning wasn't too interesting, but it thinks that 15 minutes of the same fuel burning is more interesting to watch...

Well,it's an improvement,and in F1 that's a rare thing.

**Adam43** · 7 Jul 2006, 16:12 (Ref:1650361)

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Originally Posted by Pingguest

Why don't they just leave it, and scrap that fuel burning for 2007?

Was the choice only knock five minutes off now or scrap fuel burning in '07? i.e was it either or? No. It would be very difficult to fundamentally change Q for '06. So at least they have done something to aid it, albeit a minor change.

I agree that they should do something more major for '07, but I don't see why that is a reason to take a full complaining stance now.

As for the number of changes. Is it really seven? Anyway it is a lot and it is a little silly, but if we are in the position where we don't like the current system then a change like this is good irrespective of how many have gone before.

Let me buy you a drink as your current one seems to be half empty

Marbot · 7 Jul 2006, 16:16 (Ref:1650363)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

I agree that they should do something more major for '07,

Like what?

**Adam43** · 7 Jul 2006, 16:24 (Ref:1650368)

Something radical. One hour, twelve laps.

Perhaps they won't come out straight away, but then that only effects people who get bored easily. TV companies could be a little more imaginative, think on their feet and fill this with intelligent discussion on F1 and articles or interviews from the pit lane. Although maybe that last part is harder to acheive than getting Q changed.

Marbot · 7 Jul 2006, 16:29 (Ref:1650371)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Something radical. One hour, twelve laps.

Yeah,one hour,twelve laps,three laps in each fifteen minute period,blah,blah,blah.They don't listen to themselves,least of all,us.

**Bononi** · 7 Jul 2006, 17:16 (Ref:1650394)

I think this idea it's too radical for F1, really.

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