V8SC and AFL ratings down this year...

[SSbaby]

It's not just V8SCs that have seen a ratings slide this year. It seems that AFL ratings have also nosedived. So what would people put the collective drop down to? Ch7's (relatively boring) coverage perhaps?

[porsche91722]

For me [I'm a sports car tragic], improved live streams of overseas stuff - ALMS, LMS, LM24, mean that the supertaxi's now seem a bit on the boring side. For the casual observer, the cars all look the same. If it were not for the holden/ford logo's on the w'screens most people can't tell the difference. Drivers swapping teams on a regular basis make it harder to keep track of who is driving for Ford or Holden. Less passing opportunity's. Ch 7's coverage needs less ads [that ain't gonna happen] and somebody in commentary with an ability to tell it like it is [Dick Johnson] Don't know enough about AFL to comment, I'm a poor long suffering Eels supporter in the NRL.

[bludvl_x19]

I would put it down to both the tv packages being ****e, and also the product. As you can tell, I don't care for either of them.

Mick

[Pro Racer]

even the Wallabies game last weekend was out rated by Richy Rich the movie i read somewhere. would like to see the NRL ratings. PORSCHE917[22] atleast you guys are doing better then my boys (the Bulldogs) this year but atleast we only have to remember back to 04.

[bludvl_x19]

Something I forgot to mention was the hypocrisy (sp) of Ch7, they NEED to broadcast the Sunday arvo game live (and sometimes at the expense of another sport running it's full course), but feel free to delay the Friday night game to fit in some crap programming to go up against a very weak lineup from the other channels.. Why are they (the two games) so different?
@PR, there was a Wallabies game on last weekend? I've really gotta move out of Mexico

Mick

[racer69]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

It's not just V8SCs that have seen a ratings slide this year. It seems that AFL ratings have also nosedived. So what would people put the collective drop down to? Ch7's (relatively boring) coverage perhaps?

Channel 7 can't be blamed for the 'boring' V8 coverage, they don't do it.

Similiarly some of the Sunday AFL games that 7 show (particularly the one's after the early V8 finishes) are the FOX Sports coverage.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

Something I forgot to mention was the hypocrisy (sp) of Ch7, they NEED to broadcast the Sunday arvo game live (and sometimes at the expense of another sport running it's full course), but feel free to delay the Friday night game to fit in some crap programming to go up against a very weak lineup from the other channels.. Why are they (the two games) so different?

Mick

its rare that the sunday game is live, usally delayed by a quarter

[cavvy]

Hope you guys dont think the AFL coverage you receive applies across the country - most capital cities coverage (games/times) are different.

Interesting that some of us still want to blame 7 for the V8 program !!!

[banksie]

The V8's have been against AFL coverage more this season. Hence, lower ratings for that.

The other issue for 7, is the CRAP coverage they give the Sunday arvo game in Melbourne. Hence, people will avoid the 7 coverage then.

But further to all there, people are watching less TV in general now compared to 5 years ago.

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

It's not just V8SCs that have seen a ratings slide this year. It seems that AFL ratings have also nosedived. So what would people put the collective drop down to? Ch7's (relatively boring) coverage perhaps?

Your point only has merit if Channel 10's AFL coverage has not gone down as well. If it has then its just the people are watching less televised sport across the board.

So where are Channel 10's AFL ratings?

[fomoco]

AFL on channel ten is still better than C7 and it's shared airing with Foxhell. As for motor sport, yer 10 has slipped a little, but seven would be the worst. As a follower of Footy and motorsport C7 would have to be the worst. I lived thru sevens vain attempt years ago of telecasting, sad to say, thay haven't learnt a thing. Sam was right, footy on seven is going backwards. Same for motorsport

[racer69]

How is motorsport on 7 going backwards if they are dedicating more hours to it than before (in terms of touring car racing)

[NewsStalker]

More coverage doesn't equal better coverage.

Having watched the last 2 rounds, the one thing I have noticed and become absolutely ****ed off with is Crompton continually saying things along the lines of '...and that's where [insert name here] went off on [insert day here]'.

He's saying it enough to become noticeable - as if he can't think of anything meaningful to say anymore.

[D.R.T.]

As has been mentioned, the quality of the coverage is a V8SA problem, not really anything to do with 7.

And Crompton, he has been stale for years now

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

As has been mentioned, the quality of the coverage is a V8SA problem, not really anything to do with 7.

So on that basis, if we don't like any of their other programs, we don't air our grievances to them, we must contact the producers [in the U.S. , U.K. whatever]. 7 broadcast the series, and after having paid the $ to do so must have some input into the production [they never miss an opportunity for crappy selfpromotion].
It's always been a great cop out in the media. Take all the praise and awards etc when they are on a winner, but blaming somebody else when ratings/popularity start to fall.

[Just Do It!]

Originally Posted by PORSCHE917[22]

somebody in commentary with an ability to tell it like it is [Dick Johnson]

I wouldn't think that Dick would be too popular a choice for commentary by the host broadcaster right now. In the last week, it has been stated by three diferent people I know that his name is the only thing keeping him a free man right now. Whether that is true or not, I don't know, but if ASIC are sniffing around, TV won't want him.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by PORSCHE917[22]

So on that basis, if we don't like any of their other programs, we don't air our grievances to them, we must contact the producers [in the U.S. , U.K. whatever]. 7 broadcast the series, and after having paid the $ to do so must have some input into the production [they never miss an opportunity for crappy selfpromotion].
It's always been a great cop out in the media. Take all the praise and awards etc when they are on a winner, but blaming somebody else when ratings/popularity start to fall.

Self promotion ... quality of the production.

7 set the television time, VESA produce the program, blame 7 when the productionis poor - write to your member of parliament .... you'd have the same level of success as complaining to 7.

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by Pro Racer

even the Wallabies game last weekend was out rated by Richy Rich the movie i read somewhere. would like to see the NRL ratings. PORSCHE917[22] at least you guys are doing better then my boys (the Bulldogs) this year but at least we only have to remember back to 04.

Last year or the year before an episode of the new Doctor Who series out-rated a Wallabies/All Blacks clash. Out rating Rugby Union is not a noteworthy achievement.

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by fomoco

AFL on channel ten is still better than C7 and it's shared airing with Foxhell. As for motor sport, yer 10 has slipped a little, but seven would be the worst. As a follower of Footy and motorsport C7 would have to be the worst. I lived thru sevens vain attempt years ago of telecasting, sad to say, thay haven't learnt a thing. Sam was right, footy on seven is going backwards. Same for motorsport

If that was a reply to my post above, I was referring specifically to ratings rather than quality of the show.

[ozrevhead]

Originally Posted by Falcadore

If that was a reply to my post above, I was referring specifically to ratings rather than quality of the show.

Usally the quaity of the show is poor than the ratings wll be poor

Its been a shambles this year HOWEVER I also thing V8 needs to shake things up if they are going to buck the trend

[SSbaby]

Originally Posted by racer69

How is motorsport on 7 going backwards if they are dedicating more hours to it than before (in terms of touring car racing)

The support races are not exactly... err exciting.

Cast your mind back to Ch10's coverage... the V8SCs were a dedicated TV session with little to none of the boring FF and other support races being shown.

Your point about Ch7 not showing 'it' is a irrelevant as it's the format that is decidedly different to Ch10's. And I do agree that Ch10's coverage of the football is better than Ch7's effort.

Having said that, I'm not blaming the TV stations, per say, I'm only asking if the coverage is partly to blame, not pointing the finger.

Are we just a constantly evolving society that nothing seems to last forever... not even if the concept is great initially?

[racer69]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

The support races are not exactly... err exciting.

Cast your mind back to Ch10's coverage... the V8SCs were a dedicated TV session with little to none of the boring FF and other support races being shown.

Are you advocating the support races shouldn't be shown? On the Monday at Sandown you got to watch 4 races, would you have rathered only seen 2?

Not showing the support races was a negative of Ten's coverage in my opinion.

The coverage including the support races has gone full circle, prior to Channel 10 the support races got shown, in the 80s they got shown live!

[fomoco]

Originally Posted by Falcadore

If that was a reply to my post above, I was referring specifically to ratings rather than quality of the show.

No Falc, just expanding on you train of thought. I look at the quality of a show, broadcast. If it is poor quality, then the ratings will be down.

like most things, quality is like buying oats, If you want good clean fresh oats, you pay a fair price, if you want oats that have been through the horse, they come cheaper. So if you package a product poorly, it will not attract the viewers. hence low ratings

cheers

[Average Punter]

Originally Posted by banksie

But further to all there, people are watching less TV in general now compared to 5 years ago.

You can all get off your high horses now. Banksie knows the real reason.

And with penetration of broadband, TV ratings are only going to get worse.

What V8SC need to do is get the coverage on the net. Soon! (and not just for BigPuddle subscribers...)

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Average Punter

You can all get off your high horses now. Banksie knows the real reason.

And with penetration of broadband, TV ratings are only going to get worse.

What V8SC need to do is get the coverage on the net. Soon! (and not just for BigPuddle subscribers...)

Who pays ..... 7 paid, Big Pond paid ..... no pay, no way !!!