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Old 23 May 2004, 06:08 (Ref:979398)   #1
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TKR Sponsorship

I noticed today that TKR has lost their hyundai sponsorship and have gone with Makita, which I predicted would be their major sponsor with my TKR designs.

Does this mean they lost their battle with holden over the hyundai sponsor, and if so does this mean TKR wont have enough funds to complete the championship, or has makita pushed up its funds?

Anyway I hope that TKR will be able to complete the championship coz they are going so well at the moment. Shame they stopped in Race 2 coz they were fast (right on the back of ingall) and would have finished in the top 15 overall if it wasnt for that.
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Old 23 May 2004, 06:23 (Ref:979400)   #2
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Interestingly, the noise out of Darwin suggested there was a problem with Mr Porter and Mr Baird not sharing a car in the enduros more than pressure from Holden

I am sure Mr Collins will confirm the nature of the changes at some stage
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Old 23 May 2004, 06:29 (Ref:979404)   #3
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Baird said he is good mates with P Morris hence the discussions about the enduros - he has said they have unfinished business at bathurst re the BMW finish.
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Old 23 May 2004, 07:44 (Ref:979427)   #4
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Team Kiwi's loyal group of sponsors have all stepped up to the mark to help the team get through to the end of the year by putting in extra money to help replace the Hyundai sponsorship. This means that the major sponsors may change on the side of car and the nose cone for each meeting, but we will still see TKR where they should be - out on the track racing.

Of course this also means that the ball is now back in Holden Motorsports court as far as showing some support for TKR now that there are no conflict of interest issues with the cars sponsors.

You would think after 4 years in the championship they could help them out a little
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Old 23 May 2004, 07:47 (Ref:979430)   #5
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Re: TKR Sponsorship

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[B]I noticed today that TKR has lost their hyundai sponsorship and have gone with Makita, which I predicted would be their major sponsor with my TKR designs.

Does this mean they lost their battle with holden over the hyundai sponsor, and if so does this mean TKR wont have enough funds to complete the championship, or has makita pushed up its funds?
This was answered on another forum I believe... Anyway, I hope life at TKR gets better and that Holden Motorsport pull finger and come to the party for TKR. It's ok to demand removing sponsorship, but what about helping out?

So we should have listened to you all along ay nicko, your call on the Makita deal was on the money ay.
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Old 23 May 2004, 08:02 (Ref:979438)   #6
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i dont think my makita/red kiwi designs will be used (funny how similar the layout and slant position of the makita logo is to the way I had it but that is just coincidence), but the car does look better with the makita sponsorship than the hyundai logo.

I think holdens dealings with TKR is just disgusting. If some1 planned a protest outside holden NZ HQ then i would be there.
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Old 23 May 2004, 08:14 (Ref:979444)   #7
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Funny you say that nicko, most people i talk to say that the Hyundai looked better... and I bet the money was better as well...

That aside, good on Makita and the other sponsors to come to the party to ensure TKR are around for the season. All we need now is for them to secure something for next year as well...

You will have to fly to Oz for your protest I think as well… as I hear the problem is Holden Motorsport, not here in NZ

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Old 23 May 2004, 08:27 (Ref:979448)   #8
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Does TKR have a spare car though? What if they have a big crash is that it?
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TKR give their team logo more space on the front than they do their sponsors. Hardly a good recipe for attracting or keeping sponsors. Then on the side of the car the silver fern takes up more space than the sponsors. About time they had a good hard look at how they treat their sponsors or they will end up with none.
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Old 23 May 2004, 08:50 (Ref:979458)   #10
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Im sure they treat their sponsors well, i did mention this on a thread b4 that the TKR logo and fern on the bonnet was just not needed. If the sponsors are willing to pitch in a bit more cash maybe each race a different sponsor can have their logo on the front bonnet. The TKR logo dosent look good on the car anyway (as i have said b4 and got in a bit of trouble from other forum members)

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Old 23 May 2004, 09:27 (Ref:979490)   #11
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TKR give their team logo more space on the front than they do their sponsors. Hardly a good recipe for attracting or keeping sponsors. Then on the side of the car the silver fern takes up more space than the sponsors. About time they had a good hard look at how they treat their sponsors or they will end up with none.
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Well, if the sponsors aren't paying the $$ required to get sponsorship on the bonnet permanently, why should they get there for less - at least there is something there. After all they are not the only team with no sponsors on the bonnet are they, or with team logos taking more room than sponsors!

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Old 23 May 2004, 09:36 (Ref:979497)   #12
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Sometimes, dear people, it is easier not to comment!

Would love to provide input, Tracy, but the double-edged sword is hanging over me, me senses.

One spotter says wait til August, but the TKR owner was apparently in Ponsonby today, rather than Darwin....
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Old 23 May 2004, 09:38 (Ref:979500)   #13
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TKR give their team logo more space on the front than they do their sponsors. Hardly a good recipe for attracting or keeping sponsors. Then on the side of the car the silver fern takes up more space than the sponsors. About time they had a good hard look at how they treat their sponsors or they will end up with none.
Yoyr kidding right? Surely there is something better to complain about?

Anyway, I am sure TKR are looking after there sponsers as they see fit, and if we take the recent devalopments I think the sponsers they have are very pleased given the level of support they have shown in the wake of the Holden Motorsport situation right... No?
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Old 23 May 2004, 09:52 (Ref:979514)   #14
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Sometimes, dear people, it is easier not to comment!

AND (Dear People,)!! it would appear that he DIDNT comment. How come the input with no input 'just do it'?? Huh, makes a mockery of the Username.. Just DONT do it ?? It may just be me but is there anybody else that cant figure out folk that 'suggest' that they know a lot more than they DARE let out, (lest that ol' double edged sword should fall.)!!!!
Say what you mean or dont bother, thats what I say. Maybe I have the wrong end of the stick. I'M 'green' Put me right

AND. Tracy from palmy. I am with you regarding that Sponsorship but further.... I just LOVE to see that ol' TKR logo ANYWHERE and epecially where it can be seen by millions of TV viewers. On the Bonnet or anywhere. A GOOD logo too and funnily enough, its what DRIVES me every day and hey, it's even on just about every bit of (outer) wear that I own. LUVLY JUBLY. Long may it attract fans and Sponsors alike.
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Quote from myself: "Sometimes, dear people, it is easier not to comment!"

This was a generalised statement and doesn't necessarily imply in any way, shape, or form that I only retain information on this given topic.

Often, it is easier not to reply, but BAZzzzz, if you must know, it would be a fair guess that one of the said team's current partners may have concluded a deal elsewhere in the same given series for an increased and joint-venture deal, with the same given team that perhaps took most of the said Holden NZ and HSV NZ monetary support due to a descendent of one the team's shareholders having Prime Ministerial status in NZ.
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Tracy, if you were keen to get sponsors and keep sponsors you would bend over backwards to give them as much exposure as possible especially when negotiating for extra or new sponsorship. The big TKR logo on the bonnet and the silver fern on the side don't bring a hell of a lot of dollars to a team struggling for sponsorship.
I also reckon that TKR and Tasman are not getting sponsorship because they are tying themselves too closely to NZ and that is not where most of the sponsorship will come from or at least they are limiting sponsorship to be targeted to a NZ audience which will not make it especially attractive to companies that's main income comes from Australia.
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Well Visy Australia weren't in fits and raptures to join Tasman Motorsport, despite a Tasman approach as reported on here by GTR Magic back in January, so perhaps pete55, you're correct.

Some time back now, TKR had some sponsorship from a wine outfit - none Sirromet - on their car, maybe back as far as when Jason was still driving for them. It seemed odd at the time that a company promoting Australian wine would back a pro-NZ team, although if I remember correctly, perhaps it was South Australian - which is where the Team Kiwi owner comes from if I remember correctly. It's either Adelaide or NSW

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I also reckon that TKR and Tasman are not getting sponsorship because they are tying themselves too closely to NZ and that is not where most of the sponsorship will come from or at least they are limiting sponsorship to be targeted to a NZ audience which will not make it especially attractive to companies that's main income comes from Australia. [/B]
Umm Pete mate, from my understanding isn't this the general idea that TKR are trying to promote? They don't call it team KIWI for nothing. If what they are doing is limiting there sponsorship base, at least they are showing loyalty, unlike the brand of there car manufactures Motorsport division.

There are a few Multi-national companies out there capable of sponsoring them, it is just a matter of tapping into these areas.
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Tracy, if you were keen to get sponsors and keep sponsors you would bend over backwards to give them as much exposure as possible especially when negotiating for extra or new sponsorship. The big TKR logo on the bonnet and the silver fern on the side don't bring a hell of a lot of dollars to a team struggling for sponsorship.
I also reckon that TKR and Tasman are not getting sponsorship because they are tying themselves too closely to NZ and that is not where most of the sponsorship will come from or at least they are limiting sponsorship to be targeted to a NZ audience which will not make it especially attractive to companies that's main income comes from Australia.
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Well, TKR only has sponsors money from NZ as I understand it, and that is how they want it.

Tasman motorsport still advertise themselves as Sydney's only v8supercar team, so having the silver fern there probably isn't relevant really (no offence Tasman ) Maybe a Harbour bridge or opera house would be better

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It's just my opinion, but in my limited experience in media and public relations exercises (public relations and sponsorship for events etc.) i don't think i would be limiting my income sources in any way. It is not easy to get sponsors, which people who have tried to get it will testify.
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It's just my opinion, but in my limited experience in media and public relations exercises (public relations and sponsorship for events etc.) i don't think i would be limiting my income sources in any way. It is not easy to get sponsors, which people who have tried to get it will testify.
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I think TKR would be the first to agree with you that it isn't easy Pete55

I just wish that more NZ companies would get in behind them (either that or I somehow get a large fortune so I could )
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Does anyone have anymore news on the endro drivers for TKR. If Baird wants to race with Morris then TKR might have two new drivers for enduros
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I would think a major sponsor on the car would be better than brand awareness. I know when i worked in radio i put the major sponsors name ahead of the station name in all advertising in the print media and television. Maybe i was doing it wrong then.
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