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Old 15 Jun 2006, 10:19 (Ref:1634918)   #1
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Fisichella allegedly confirmed at Renault for '07

News on pitpass.com is reporting that Renault have issued a release confirming Fizzi for next year.

So the pressure will now be on to confirm who the other driver will be

As he's already mentioned himself surely it's going to be a Finn, but which one.

I read somewhere that Heikki signed a deal to race next year at the end of last year, but this might have been before Alonso elected to vacate Enstone. If this is true then it will be him and the strong rumour about Kimi being 'loaned' may stay as just that, a rumour.

If Kimi does end up at Renault where will that leave Heikki whom Flavio lauded as his new Fernando??
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 10:30 (Ref:1634923)   #2
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It'll be a travesty for Fisi to get a drive and JV not to, imo.

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Old 15 Jun 2006, 11:16 (Ref:1634945)   #3
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He deserves it. He has had some bad luck and can seem disillusioned at times. I also think that the operative word in the the Statement is Flavio Flave's use of the word "continuity".

TI think this means that that Kovelainen is the likely choice for the second Renault seat.
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 11:45 (Ref:1634974)   #4
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I'm guessing Renault kept him for the sake of continuity. He's disappointed me in his time with Renault. If Alonso was staying next year, I reckon they'd push Fisi on his way. But in the current situation, they really could do with keeping a current driver.

Next year is his last chance then - team leader in a championship winning car. If his Finnish team mate (whoever it may be) beats him, that'll probably signal the end of his career. Hopefully they won't though. Perhaps Giancarlo can finally live up to his hype and reel off a whole series of wins.
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 11:48 (Ref:1634979)   #5
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Link.http://www.crash.net/news_view~t~Off...~id~132056.htm.And so it begins.........
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 12:02 (Ref:1634987)   #6
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fisi said the other day that he would be partnered by a Fin in 2007, but he didn't know if that was kimi or heikki.

if koveleinen doesnt race for Renault I wonder who he would drive for? He has to race in 07 to avoid Davidson syndrome.

renault say they want to supply motors to a second team, but who? Midland, red bull or toro rosso are the only available ones.
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 12:40 (Ref:1635024)   #7
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Yup. It looks like Giancarlo gets one last chance to be WDC
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 13:20 (Ref:1635038)   #8
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It's very strange and probably difficult for Flavio. If they do opt for Fisi and Heikki, then there is less chance of him being able to deliver the results that the big cheeses at Renault want.

But if they go for Kimi and Fisi, then Flavio's boy gets left out in the cold.
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 13:33 (Ref:1635044)   #9
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Strange when you think about it.

Tell you what though if Fizzi all of a sudden starts delivering consistently, we'll all then know what's been happening these last 2 years....

But i think he's really being kept on as a second driver as opposed to team leader (after the contract's only for one year at this stage)

Assuming Heikki does get the other drive he's got a year to get used to it all with Fizzi playing the holding role if you like, before being propelled to number one man in 2008...
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 14:01 (Ref:1635063)   #10
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Tell you what though if Fizzi all of a sudden starts delivering consistently, we'll all then know what's been happening these last 2 years....
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 14:04 (Ref:1635065)   #11
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Yup. It looks like Giancarlo gets one last chance to be WDC

It's either going to go one of two ways. Fisi as a championship contender, or Renault in for a very poor season
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 14:11 (Ref:1635073)   #12
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I reckon fissi still has something in him. Maybe not the championship. But i top 4 contender
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 14:38 (Ref:1635096)   #13
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Bing less optimistic, I reckon Renault could have decided to keep the 1st-and-2nd-driver phylosophy, like at Ferrari.

In this case there is no clue in hiring a new 2nd driver when already having Fisi
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 14:47 (Ref:1635105)   #14
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IMO, that means Raikkonen won't be with Renault next year. I could not understand Briatore keeping Fisichella otherwise.
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 14:51 (Ref:1635113)   #15
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If they want a Finn then why not Web Markinnan?

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Bing less optimistic, I reckon Renault could have decided to keep the 1st-and-2nd-driver phylosophy, like at Ferrari.

In this case there is no clue in hiring a new 2nd driver when already having Fisi
Obviously they need a Lead driver! Or was that the joke?
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Well, the "continuity" aspect was always the one potential saving grace for Fisi. I am still a bit surprised, though, as he really has been a bit rubbish. Still, fair play, he is doing something good enough, obviously, so, well, good luck to him.

I found one part of Giancarlo's comments in that crash.net link martyn provided particularly interesting:
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This clear vision for the future means I can focus 100 per cent on the job at hand: retaining the constructors' championship with Renault in 2006 and finishing as high as possible in the drivers' standings.
To me, that says he views himself as a No. 2.

His primary aim is to help secure the WCC, and the by-product of that is however far he happens to finish in the WDC. He doesn't say it allows him to focus on winning the WDC, but just finish "as high as possible". There is a disparity between this and the very clear other purpose of finishing first in the WCC. He doesn't talk in terms of helping the team finish "as high as possible" in that particular race.

Interesting, I thought.

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Old 15 Jun 2006, 15:02 (Ref:1635127)   #17
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Or he concedes for this year Alonso has too big a jump and isnt likely to be tossing points away, if anything Fisi will be the Renault driver moving over for Alonso if Ferrari grab a few results over the next few races
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Then you'd have to ask. Why has Alonso got that much of a lead?

The Lotus 79 came up in another thread. In that season (1978) the second driver, (the late Ronnie Petersen) was second to Andretti with two wins but loads of podiums (podia?). That was a year where the winning car was the dominant car.

You then look at Fisi in a Renault a dominant car and............. well second in any championship would be a bonus, but for who?
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Whilst not surprising news (it had been mooted for a long time) I can't help feeling that Renault could have risked another new driver to go alongside Kovaleinen/Kimi next season.

Maybe Fisi will pull something out the bag, but I doubt it.
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Old 15 Jun 2006, 15:45 (Ref:1635166)   #20
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The last two headlines have certainly put an end to speculation over Webber's possible move to Renault next year... I think

I have to say I'm disappointed with the decision, given that Fisi more or less put his lack of performance down to the car not suiting his style, and to a degree favouritism. This year he's said that the car suits his driving style a lot more, but has to date been outperformed once again by Alonso. Still, it might be interesting to see how well he performs when Alonso isn't at the team.
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No championships for Renault next year then....
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No championships for Renault next year then....
I agree, assuming Heikki gets the second seat. A lineup of a rookie and "The Fizz" is tantamount to surrendering in the 07' WDC and WCC battles before 2007 even begins...maybe they can still salvage third in the WCC next year...

With Renault presumably out of the 2007 WCC and WDC chase and McLaren in the doldrums you-know-who is looking very good for 2007.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Fisichella's signing may indicate that Raikkonen will move to Renault. If Heikki Kovaleinen had already signed a race contract, which has been suggested then I would have thought that a formal announcement might have been made along with news of Fisichella's signing. Also Renault have said that Fisichella will provide continuity and whilst Kovaleinen has no race experience, his testing exploits would mean that he knows how the team works and could be said to provide some continuity.
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It could be that Heikki is so good that he will be able to get the (winning) job done, despite being a rookie?

The ultra-mega-fill-your-pants talents are good enough to do that.
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