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Autosport's top 50 racecar drivers of 2020
https://www.autosport.com/top-50-drivers-of-2020
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23 Dec 2020, 12:24 (Ref:4024742) | #2 | |
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I don’t agree Russell shouldn’t be there, he did enough to be included for outperforming the Williams alone. Newgarden ahead of Dixon is a matter of opinion. However I do agree that despite having a better season than last year Gasly is too high
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24 Dec 2020, 14:08 (Ref:4025053) | #3 | ||
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Russell scored no points with Williams, how can he be a top 50 of the world?
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24 Dec 2020, 15:31 (Ref:4025074) | #4 | |
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He's a very good driver of course, but his results are simply not enough for a top 50 drivers of the season.
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26 Dec 2020, 23:15 (Ref:4025337) | #6 | |
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Results aren’t that important, it’s how well you do with your equipment that decides whether you get into a top ten or not. Let’s face his 9th place at Sakhir in a Merc isn’t an indication of how well he’s did in that car
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27 Dec 2020, 08:52 (Ref:4025373) | #7 | |
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I find this bizarre. Russell may turn out to be the second coming but there is no evidence at all he ‘outperformed’ the car. There is literally absolutely nothing to compare to.
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27 Dec 2020, 11:28 (Ref:4025394) | #8 | |
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His team mate perhaps? And the fact he was often qualifying in the midfield? For me, this past season and 2019 he has given it his all
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Well, either he is getting the max out of it, or, contrary to Pete's view, Latifi is pretty awful....
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27 Dec 2020, 12:00 (Ref:4025399) | #10 | |
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I don’t think Latifi is that bad, but I think Sakhir confirmed Russell is the real deal
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27 Dec 2020, 12:17 (Ref:4025401) | #11 | |
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His teammate is awful. A lot have been surprised how close they’ve been and are unsure whether to give Nicky credit or feel negative about George. Probably somewhere between the two.
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27 Dec 2020, 12:33 (Ref:4025402) | #12 | |
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I’ll say it again. His team mate is not that bad. There have been far worse in F1 (hello Jean-Denis Deletraz), but Russell still outperformed him pretty much every weekend.
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27 Dec 2020, 12:40 (Ref:4025403) | #13 | |
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You are very simplistic. I know how good a racing driver Latifi is. Nowhere near F1 material as anybody in the paddock could tell you.
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27 Dec 2020, 14:16 (Ref:4025412) | #14 | |
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This is the top fifty:
1. Lewis Hamilton 2. Max Verstappen 3. Antonio Felix Da Costa 4. Pierre Gasly 5. Charles Leclerc 6. Josef Newgarden 7. Daniel Ricciardo 8. Scott Dixon 9. Sebastien Ogier 10. Rene Rast 11. Sergio Perez 12. Valtteri Bottas 13. Scott McLaughlin 14. Kevin Harvick 15. George Russell 16. Sebastien Buemi 17. Mike Conway 18. Carlos Sainz 19. Lando Norris 20. Mitch Evans 21. Nico Muller 22. Colton Herta 23. Thierry Neuville 24. Denny Hamlin 25. Mick Schumacher 26. Stoffel Vandoorne 27. Yuki Tsunoda 28. Chase Elliott 29. Elfyn Evans 30. Will Power 31. Callum Ilott 32. Nyck De Vries 33. Ryo Hirakawa 34. Patricio O'Ward 35. Jean-Eric Vergne 36. Filipe Alburquerque 37. Daniil Kvyat 38. Nick Cassidy 39. Kimi Raikkonen 40. Cam Waters 41. Ott Tanak 42. Dane Cameron 43. Oscar Piastri 44. Yann Ehrlacher 45. Ash Sutton 46. Theo Pourchaire 47. Shane van Gisbergen 48. Raffaele Marciello 49. Johan Kristoffersen 50. Nick Tandy |
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Some edits I would make:
1. Touring car drivers should be higher. To make an overtake in the BTCC, in particular, takes more skill than any other series, as it often takes multiple corners. I would have Ash Sutton in the top 20, and Turkington, Cammish, Ingram and Butcher would also make my top 50. 2. NASCAR drivers should be lower. I don't particularly like NASCAR, as it seems like the majority of the race means almost nothing, and it is all about the last few laps, and the chase is a ridiculous scoring system. However, I have seen a few NASCAR races, and I don't think it requires anywhere near as much skill as any other motorsport series. 3. For the F1 drivers, I would have Ricciardo and Perez above Gasly and Leclerc (although these four are very close), and I would also have Sainz and Norris above Russell and Bottas. I agree with the number of F1 drivers on the list, though, because it is the biggest motorsport and, in theory, should contain the best drivers in the world. 4. For the Formula e drivers, I actually agree with Da Costa in third, as he dominated the championship in a way never seen before in Formula e, and the cars are quite similar. However, Vergne should definitely not be in the top 50, as he was dominated by his teammate and failed to finish second in the fastest car. I also think Vandoorne and De Vries should be lower, as I believe the Mercedes was probably closer to the Techeetah in terms of speed, although a lack of teammates for either driver in their careers (Paffett last year was a rookie), means it is hard to know. Buemi and Evans deserve their high ratings, in my opinion. |
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27 Dec 2020, 14:33 (Ref:4025414) | #16 | |
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Also, Tsunoda should be above Mick Schumacher.
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It just shows how hard it is to compare drivers in different series, even if some are undoubtedly more competitive than others
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There always are. Don't get Gasly that high, lucked out one weekend.
If you're going to include Russell for one great weekend in a Merc and outperforming his team mate the rest of the year, then I'm not sure why Bottas is both in and above him, having not really done either. Will Power? Has had some good weekends but he's been all over the shop on occasions. If you're going to include him, then you should throw in Sato who did at least win the 500. |
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While I agree that Gasly got lucky at Monza, his performances have been up this season, but ahead of Leclerc, Ricciardo and Perez? Don't think so
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