Strakka LMP1 discussion

Pontlieue · 10 Jul 2015, 08:27 (Ref:3557232)

Strakka have announced the development of a new LMP1 car for 2017. They will switch to a Gibson LMP2 car for the rest of the WEC season, as the Dome becomes a test mule for the new LMP1 car.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/0...r-of-2015.html

TzeiTzei · 10 Jul 2015, 08:31 (Ref:3557233)

Awesome!

carbon_titanium · 10 Jul 2015, 08:51 (Ref:3557237)

gret move! also because lmp2 monocoques are made with the same specs of lmp1! as kolles shown, is not so hard to convert an lmp2 in lmp1 with a decent budget. Beyond that, in good hands the zytek is much more competitive than the dome strakka

Simmi · 10 Jul 2015, 08:55 (Ref:3557241)

The ACO needed a good news story after they started carving into P2 and they just got one.

Deleted · 10 Jul 2015, 09:00 (Ref:3557243)

Happy
MORE AWESOME P1 PRIVATEERS THANK YOU STRAKKA FOR NOT DIRTYING YOUR ARSE WITH THE P2 SPEC MADNESS YEEEESSSSSS

Sad
Bye bye Dome from actual competition

Funny
In the Autosport version of that article Walmsley still calls it 'LMP1-L' category (which is honestly still pretty much still is technically)

Interesting
They're surely aiming for the record on team switching LMP categories in least number of years!

Mike E · 10 Jul 2015, 09:19 (Ref:3557247)

Very happy about this. Pleeeease, Rebellion, remain committed to LMP1.

J Jay · 10 Jul 2015, 09:24 (Ref:3557248)

Well this is what the ACO were hoping would happen ... but however it's come about I'm genuinely pleased a quality team is making the leap to P1.

Pontlieue · 10 Jul 2015, 09:27 (Ref:3557249)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Well this is what the ACO were hoping would happen ... but however it's come about I'm genuinely pleased a quality team is making the leap to P1.

Now, if Rebellion remain commited, and SARD and/or Greaves move to LMP1 with Gibson, we could have a really nice LMP1 privateer class in 2017.

ModelT · 10 Jul 2015, 09:45 (Ref:3557256)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

gret move! also because lmp2 monocoques are made with the same specs of lmp1! as kolles shown, is not so hard to convert an lmp2 in lmp1 with a decent budget. Beyond that, in good hands the zytek is much more competitive than the dome strakka

I was sure that I read somewhere in among the ACO stuff, LMP1 chassis regs will be quite a bit different for 2017 than current?

In which case the actual Dome chassis now may well not be eligible to race, but certainly purposeful as a test hack. Good that the P1 privateer class is beginning to see some expansion.

gert · 10 Jul 2015, 10:37 (Ref:3557265)

So that Dome car did the grand total of 3 races after a year spent/wasted developing it?

isynge · 10 Jul 2015, 12:33 (Ref:3557283)

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Originally Posted by gert

So that Dome car did the grand total of 3 races after a year spent/wasted developing it?

Well the last one only did three too, so at least they're consistent...

Deleted · 10 Jul 2015, 12:40 (Ref:3557285)

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Originally Posted by isynge

Well the last one only did three too, so at least they're consistent...

Actually the S102.5 only did two races

isynge · 10 Jul 2015, 12:50 (Ref:3557290)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Actually the S102.5 only did two races

In which case this is a good news story,

S102 did one race
S102.5 did two
S103 did three

Progress in anyone's book.

pirenzo · 10 Jul 2015, 13:00 (Ref:3557292)

Well, I'm glad that Strakka will be a part of LMP1 again, and to be honest I'm not that sad they're ditching the Dome. It clearly didn't make sense to spend any more money on it, at least as a P2 chassis. I guess they'll try to use the current monocoque in the new car.

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Originally Posted by isynge

In which case this is a good news story,

S102 did one race
S102.5 did two
S103 did three

Progress in anyone's book.

And how many races did the S101 do? ;-)

Deleted · 10 Jul 2015, 13:02 (Ref:3557293)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Very happy about this. Pleeeease, Rebellion, remain committed to LMP1.

Why wouldn't they?

Also

jc_nl · 10 Jul 2015, 13:28 (Ref:3557296)

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Originally Posted by pirenzo

And how many races did the S101 do? ;-)

If racingsportscars.com is to be believed (and why would they not be):
87 races (9 wins, 71% finishing ratio)
With one of the chassis, acording to Jan Lammers, being a sieve due to the number of holes drilled in to it over the years it was in use to provide for repairs and updates

MagVanisher · 10 Jul 2015, 13:34 (Ref:3557298)

Well, at least Strakka will return to the top class but it's sad that Dome won't join in!

Simmi · 10 Jul 2015, 13:41 (Ref:3557300)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Why wouldn't they?

Hopefully they'll continue - but even if more teams enter for '17 Rebellion would likely still have another lame duck year in '16 to contend with. Nothing is a given.

Deleted · 10 Jul 2015, 13:44 (Ref:3557301)

They've now had 3 lame duck years in a row in that "class", I don't think one more is gonna break them

**joeb** · 10 Jul 2015, 13:46 (Ref:3557302)

Just a question, what types of things can they actually use the Dome to test? Engine, tranny, suspension, bodywork? Will the new tub be close enough to the Dome that this makes sense?

Coach Ep · 10 Jul 2015, 14:08 (Ref:3557307)

Glad to see a team with ambitions, happy about that.

What I don't understand is the rush, the current P2s are allowed in WEC until 2017 so 2,5 more years (3,5 if you would opt to go ELMS in '18). Unless the Dome is really not that great.

And no mentioning about 2016 at all, you would think they'll use the Gibson then as well (???).

On a sidenote: If IMSA would have gone their own way with a more liberal set of prototype rules without constructor limitations, I feel Strakka would have been game to go racing Stateside.

I also have the feeling SMP/BR engineering will make a similar move in due course.

pirenzo · 10 Jul 2015, 14:15 (Ref:3557308)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Just a question, what types of things can they actually use the Dome to test? Engine, tranny, suspension, bodywork? Will the new tub be close enough to the Dome that this makes sense?

That depends how strict their definition of "new car" is. They could simply re-use the Dome tub and redesign everything else around it. I think I'm right in saying they would not have to undertake crash testing again if they did that.

As it is they only mention 3D printing to reduce costs, which in itself tells you they would like to save money on manufacturing. The most expensive item is the tub.

mariantic · 10 Jul 2015, 14:38 (Ref:3557313)

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Originally Posted by pirenzo

.... They could simply re-use the Dome tub and redesign everything else around it.

Is the Dome chassis the right width for LMP1? Anyone have the dimensions to hand?

Was it built to the old LMP2 2000mm width or the new common 1900mm?

Mariantic

Deleted · 10 Jul 2015, 14:51 (Ref:3557319)

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Originally Posted by mariantic

Is the Dome chassis the right width for LMP1? Anyone have the dimensions to hand?

Was it built to the old LMP2 2000mm width or the new common 1900mm?

Mariantic

2000mm according to Japanese Autosport

I think Oreca 05 is the only one in line with the new width. But don't quote me on that.

kvenom · 10 Jul 2015, 14:55 (Ref:3557320)

Couldn't they develop the stillborn LMP1 S103?

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