CSCC Spa Francorchamps - Spa Summer Classic

[Peter Mallett]

Races to be added.

[SAMD]

Right, I need a wee bit of advise.
The sports 2000 boys are intending to run again at 'Spa Summer Classic' 10-12 June 2011.
What other races are going to be run that weekend?
Wil the CSCC calender tell me? or are there other races from other clubs held as well.

[andy97]

The Spa Summer Classic is run by an organisation called "Roadbook", I think.

Have a look at their web site & it may help. Google for "Roadbook & Spa Summer Classic" or something similar.

[Peter Mallett]

http://www.roadbook.be/

[terence]

Originally Posted by SAMD

Right, I need a wee bit of advise.
The sports 2000 boys are intending to run again at 'Spa Summer Classic' 10-12 June 2011.
What other races are going to be run that weekend?
Wil the CSCC calender tell me? or are there other races from other clubs held as well.

No doubt Barry will be running his usual event.As Peter suggest's,best to check on the site though Sam.

[DaveGT6]

Can't help with the specifics as to what is running but have to say that this is the most fun event that I have raced at in the last couple of years

[Kevin Cooke]

I've been checking the Roadbook website weekly and they have yet to announce the programme.

As I posted elsewhere last year I did the 2 x 30 min S2000 races and the 1 hr race.

This year I'll see what the programme is before finally deciding but hopefully will do either a 1 hr race or longer in the T492 and try and rattle the piggy bank to rent a Duratec for the 30 min S2000 races.

Rumour is the Saker's will be there as well.

Regards

Kevin

[simon drabble]

I think there will be a long distance GT race there as a friend if mine is planning to use it as a shake down for his Cobra ahead of the 6 Hour later in the year.

[Kevin Cooke]

The S2000 mob are out in force have a look at this entry list for the 2 30min races. I'm cheating a bit by listing this as Historics as all the cars are running together but we are hopefull of a full 52 car grid.

Anyone got a contact address for John Webb as I'm sure this would make him smile.

http://www.roadbook.be/spasummerclas...ummerRace7.pdf

Regards to all

Kevin Cooke

[DaveGT6]

Note to anyone participating in his event - the Belgian organising club are running it to FIA safety regulations so make sure your car and your kit is up to current Appendix J spec. One specific that nearly caught us out was that fire extinguishers now have to be secured with bolted clamps rather than overcentre catches. All FIA spec kits are now supplied with these (according to Lifeline) but this will catch out a lot of club racers.

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by DaveGT6

..... One specific that nearly caught us out was that fire extinguishers now have to be secured with bolted clamps rather than overcentre catches. All FIA spec kits are now supplied with these (according to Lifeline) but this will catch out a lot of club racers.

I can confirm my recent purchase from DTs came with bolted clamps... thus

[Tim Falce]

One other point on extinguishers is the rules state 2.4litre bottles, in the UK we seem to have 2.25 or 4lt so if you have the smaller bottle you may need to change it as I think last year an exception was made as they changed the rule a bit too late. It's worth checking up on anyhow.

[gilduffy]

Do all these regs apply to a 1959 (ie period G ) car?

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by gilduffy

Do all these regs apply to a 1959 (ie period G ) car?

you may check here but I think the answer's yes
http://www.roadbook.be/spasummerclassic/en/safety.html

[kickstart]

Am now officially very excited about going back to Spa ferry tickets all booked and crossed fingers that car will be reliable
Fortunately the timing of the race allows one to watch Le Mans

[DaveGT6]

Originally Posted by kickstart

Am now officially very excited about going back to Spa ferry tickets all booked and crossed fingers that car will be reliable
Fortunately the timing of the race allows one to watch Le Mans

Presumably you are not commuting between Spa and Le Mans to watch the race! So how will you be accessing the coverage and can we come and watch too?!!!

[Stuart J]

Re fire extinguisher brackets and the requirement this year for bolts – if like me you have a SPA Design fire extinguisher, you can buy the necessary upgraded brackets with their mountings direct from SPA on 01543 434 580 – roughly £50 with carriage and VAT.

[AndyV]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

One other point on extinguishers is the rules state 2.4litre bottles, in the UK we seem to have 2.25 or 4lt so if you have the smaller bottle you may need to change it as I think last year an exception was made as they changed the rule a bit too late. It's worth checking up on anyhow.

Last year I was able to bolt in a hand held Dry Powder extinguisher (2kg?) to meet the FIA requirements. Was a much cheaper option than fitting a larger plumbed in system. Kept my current 2.25l plumbed in system just with the extra powder one too.

Andy

[Brian A]

Originally Posted by AndyV

Last year I was able to bolt in a hand held Dry Powder extinguisher (2kg?) to meet the FIA requirements. Was a much cheaper option than fitting a larger plumbed in system. Kept my current 2.25l plumbed in system just with the extra powder one too.

Andy

I suspect that this year you would also need to make sure the plumbed in system has bolted straps rather than the normal clips. Conversely just disconnect the plumbed-in unit and leave the bracket in place.

Surely the hand held would need to be 2.4 kgs?

Crazy - isn't it.

[kickstart]

I was just planning to watch Le Mans at the bar on top of the F1 pits as they tend to show any motorsport that is on TV

[AndyV]

Originally Posted by Brian A

I suspect that this year you would also need to make sure the plumbed in system has bolted straps rather than the normal clips. Conversely just disconnect the plumbed-in unit and leave the bracket in place.

Surely the hand held would need to be 2.4 kgs?

Crazy - isn't it.

Yep, plumbed in would still need to the bolted straps, will get the tin snips and cut some strips of sheet metal to make some.

Just checked my dry power extinguisher, is 2kg but 2.5litres by volume.

worth checking the FIA rule as a hand held powder extinguisher costs about £20 so much cheaper than a new foam system.

Cheers
Andy

[terence]

Could have changed but I thought FIA was a Four Kilo requirement?

[MGDavid]

just in from Hugo at CSCC:

"There has been clarification of the rules regarding fire extinguishers at the Spa Summer Classic.

The minimum required capacity is now 2.25 litres for AFFF extinguishers and the rule about retaining straps has also been re-written.

'All Plumbed-in extinguisher systems must be secured by a minimum of 2 screw-locked metallic straps (not by over-centre clips)'

I understand that Demon Tweeks sell replacement straps with the correct fittings for Lifeline extinguishers but cannot guarantee fitment for other makes.
"

[Simon Davey]

Isn't a "screw locked metallic strap" just a big jubilee clip/worm drive clamp?

Sounds like it to me

If this is an FIA requirement it seems strange that all the Fire Extinguisher web sites I can find are still showing FIA extinguishers with over-centre clamps.

Does anyone have more information on this please?

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by Simon Davey

Isn't a "screw locked metallic strap" just a big jubilee clip/worm drive clamp?
Sounds like it to me
If this is an FIA requirement it seems strange that all the Fire Extinguisher web sites I can find are still showing FIA extinguishers with over-centre clamps.
Does anyone have more information on this please?

Simon I think a jubilee clip would be legal - but I'm not the scrutineer at Spa!!
See post #11; companies do not always update their product brochures / websites as often as they might.