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Old 5 Jun 2005, 08:29 (Ref:1320371)   #1
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Who may have driven my car ?

At a sports car meeting the other day, someone asked me about my Ralt RT30 which I own. We discussed the various famous drivers that raced in F3 and I wondered How I could find out the racing history of the car.

The previous owner did not have any info so if anyone can help me find out I would be very thankfull. How do I go about this ??

So, Ralt RT30 1985, Chassis 547.

there were no less than 17 RT30 in the 1986 British F3 final points tally and drivers included, Damon Hill, Gary Brabham, Julian Bailey, Johnny Herbert, Paul Radisich, Ross Cheever, Martin Donnelly and second in the chapionship was Maurisio Sandro Sala (eddie jordon racing).
Andy wallace won in a Reynard 863 to pip all the Ralts.

well thats a bit of history but, someone must of driven it ?

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Old 5 Jun 2005, 13:43 (Ref:1320509)   #2
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Gadgit,

Ralt RT30 547 was sold to Pegasus Motorsport on 8/3/85 (painted white). where the team drivers were Gerrit van Kouwen and Graham de Zille. It was the second car delivered to the team and was driven by van Kouwen. Pegasus was owned by de Zille's family whose business was knitwear - they later sold the Sweater Shop chain.
547 was later raced in 1989 by Steve Maxted and then by Sam Hill.

Hope this helps.
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Old 5 Jun 2005, 18:05 (Ref:1320666)   #3
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Thanks Adam, how the hell did you find that out !!

Grat stuff, can you please keep going on this or give me the source??????

What engine did they pit in it and where did it go after that.

Maxted and Hill, who were they !!
By the way your a gem !!

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Old 5 Jun 2005, 21:02 (Ref:1320829)   #4
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Gadgit,

I don't know much more.
Maxted and Hill both appeared in the car in the "Class B" section of 1989 British F3 races, which was for non-current cars.

My sources are contemporary observation, plus Ralt's RT30 build list.
BTW according to the list your car's gearbox serial No. was 5356 - is it still there?
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Old 5 Jun 2005, 21:24 (Ref:1320855)   #5
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Yep, 5356, would you believe it!

Keep it coming if you find anything else and thanks.

By the way, checked out your web site, and very interesting it is to.

Thats not you in that car on the front page is it ??

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Old 5 Jun 2005, 21:30 (Ref:1320862)   #6
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Gadgit,

I'll let you know if I find anything more re. 586.
Good to know the GB no. ties!

No, the guy in my web-site photo is Peter Whitehead...........but I wish I'd been there!
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Old 5 Jun 2005, 22:19 (Ref:1320903)   #7
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I have a funny feeling that the GRAB resins team bought a Pegasus car for Alistar Lyall to drive in Class B, maybe it was your car? They were both teams based neir Leicester as far as I remember.
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Old 5 Jun 2005, 23:33 (Ref:1320947)   #8
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Gadgit,

taking it a year or 2 onward from waht Adam's told you, 547 was used in the ARP F3 series by Sam Hill in 1990, and Steve Allen in 1991. I next saw at Donington in the same series in 1994, driven by one Nino Judge.

If you want any photos of the car, send me your e-mail address via PM.
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Old 6 Jun 2005, 06:32 (Ref:1321066)   #9
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Steve Maxted is a current front runner in the historic F3 series which runs through HSCC.
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Old 6 Jun 2005, 17:28 (Ref:1321567)   #10
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Just thought you might like to see the old gal now !!

here she is. :http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00411256f00000014.jpg[pic/]
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Old 6 Jun 2005, 17:37 (Ref:1321573)   #11
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And the Toyota engine fitted into the beast !!

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Old 6 Jun 2005, 17:39 (Ref:1321579)   #12
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And in the nude !!

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When are you bringing it out to play ?
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Old 7 Jun 2005, 22:43 (Ref:1322790)   #14
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Just finished fitting the new clutch plate and changed the ratios (again) changed the pads as they were over heating, to F3 proper ones instead of the hillclimbs which were fitted (don't laugh)

Now looking to test in the next few weeks. Any offers for a test day !!

Like to have a go round Silverstone stowe, they say its good cos you can't fall off into a wall there as its in the middle of the main track ??

Might test at Snett on a thursday in the next few weeks in a afternoon session.
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Just finished fitting the new clutch plate and changed the ratios (again) changed the pads as they were over heating, to F3 proper ones instead of the hillclimbs which were fitted (don't laugh)

Now looking to test in the next few weeks. Any offers for a test day !!

Like to have a go round Silverstone stowe, they say its good cos you can't fall off into a wall there as its in the middle of the main track ??

Might test at Snett on a thursday in the next few weeks in a afternoon session.
Gadgit, you mentioned it had "hillclimb pads" fitted; so who ran it in Speed events?

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Old 8 Jun 2005, 20:55 (Ref:1323482)   #16
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A guy called Martin Ennis had it before me. He made it suitable for monoposto, only did one or two races, and then a few hill climbs. He didn't use the car that much as far as i know. He has got a jedi now.

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are u intending to race the car or test/track days only?
the car is eligible for ARP F3 master class some older 86 87 reynard still running
you can also go an race in "libre" events with semsec at lydden and BARC single seater events mostly at silverstone stowe circuit and lydden
the french classic f3 series is open till 85 im told for flat bottoms to all cars from 77-85
if u need spares for tr30 let me know by PM
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 14:39 (Ref:1325634)   #18
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Did Race car live last year.

Some people can't do demonstration driving, so quite a few ended up bending their cars.

Then went to Mallory on boxing day, and heaps of single seaters smashed up !!!

So bearing in mind I don't want to bend mine, Me and my son thought that testing was far less likely to knock bits off the car, and may I add, is great fun and probably the best value for driving.

So, for the time being we will do tests and demonstration drives only.
Last year at mallory, just before goodwood there were Millions of pounds worth of cars going round the track. I was following one of John Watson's old cars round and seeing all the other great cars getting ready for goodwood was fab!! All that for £80.

I know its not racing, but what a relaxed and interesting morning, Brilliant. People all milling round the car taking pictures, what more could you want !

By the way, if anyone is arranging a test let me know and we will be happy to bring the thing along !!
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driftwood has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
yr right at the testing fee for mallory and value for money and no stress some sessions are split some all in 1 so lots of lappery
i was there 10 days ago testing f3 car and i followed ferrari 625 for 100 meters and all i could smell was catrol r30/40 as i flashed past him to the hairpin and the aroma in my helmet as drove around for another lap - what a fix!!
go and race at lydden or stowe it will also be fun lydden has some doube header events
Bhatch is good for £200 4x 25 mn sessions 120 laps per day are possible so long as FFords are not there en masse playing sandcastles
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Grateful for anything you can come up with on my car RT3-470 1984 my belief is it was driven by Eric Lang in '84 and then Godfrey Hall in class B in '85, I bought it in early '86
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Can I just say that as nothing more than a "casual observer" of this thread, I found it absolutely fascinating!
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Old 12 Jun 2005, 17:44 (Ref:1326466)   #22
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Driftwood, let me know if you go again (mallory) I'll try to meet you there !!

What were you driving, do you have a car mate ??

I can't email you, as you have it blocked, but you can email me.

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Richard,

RT3-470 was delivered to Docking/Spitzley on 16/2/84. No driver is mentioned on Ralt's list, but as Eric Lang seems to have been their only driver in 1984, it must have been used by Lang.
The tub no. is 84-33 and the gearbox number was 4704. It was painted white on delivery.
Unfortunately I don't have any contemporary race meeting notes for 84 and Godfrey Hall didn't appear at the one F3 event I attended in 85.

Hope this is of use.
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I noted RT3-470 as Godfrey Hall's at Silverstone on March 23/24 1985
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Can I just say that as nothing more than a "casual observer" of this thread, I found it absolutely fascinating!
Ayse, quite agree, and sorry to annoy a few posters, but this type of thread is whats great about 10/10ths, not stuff about where to meet up at Spa, or Goodwood etc...
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