1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship - Discussion & Results

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 10:07 (Ref:2610373)

Time for the 1988 season. Information gathered from mainly late 1988 Autosport magazines including their most valuable seasonal review, a few YouTube clips, a points chart I was mailed some time ago and various pictures to be found around the net and not least other threaths on ten-tenths and TNF. I'm looking forward to your contributions - they're needed - but should make for some time well spend.

1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship intro
Same class structure as in 1987:
Class A: above 2500 cc
Class B: 2001-2500 cc
Class C: 1601-2000 cc
Class D: under 1600 cc

Points for the top-6 in each class according to 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1 points with an additional point for fastest lap in the race.

Late in 1987 it was announced that highlights of six races would be transmitted by the BBC, while Ford announced a bonus for top-3 overall results by Ford drivers with £15,000 for first, £10,000 for second and £5,000 for third – can't find my reference for the Ford-part, though.

13 races on the schedule, but ended on 12 with the cancellation of the Birmingham round.

Jesper

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 10:15 (Ref:2610374)

Round 1 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 27th March 1988 held over x laps on the x.xxx miles Silverstone circuit.

As I only have top-6 overall results, I have listed the known drivers class-by-class.

Class A:
1./ #8 / Jerry Mahony / Dowson? / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / x laps / 25m02.12s
2./ #14 / Mike Newman / Goode / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 25m06.20s
3./ #17 / Bob Sands / CC / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 25m16.57s
? / #1 / Chris Hodgetts / MIL / A / Toyota Supra Turbo / 4th in class
? / #27/ Peter Buxtorf / Buxtorf / A / BMW 635CSi / 5th in class
? / #22 / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 6th in class
DNF / #19 / Laurence Bristow / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired
DNF / #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired
DNF / #7 / Mike O'Brien / Docking / A / Holden Commodore VL / retired
Fastest lap: Andy Rouse

Class B:
4./ #33 / Frank Sytner / Prodrive / B / BMW M3 / 25m32.38s / 1st in class
5./ #32 / Mike Smith / Prodrive / B / BMW M3 / 25m36.35s / 2nd in class
6./ #36 / Godfrey Hall / Maguire / B / BMW M3 / 25m54.60s / 3rd in class
? / #44 / Alan Minshaw / Minshaw / B / BMW M3 / 4th in class
? / #38 / Dave Wallis / Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / 5th in class
? / #39 / Lionel Wiffen / Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / 6th in class
Fastest lap: Frank Sytner

Class C:
DNS / #55 / James Shead / Maguire / C / VW Golf GTI 16V / did not start
Fastest lap: unknown if any driver started.

Class D:
? / #70 / Phil Dowsett / TOM'S GB / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 1st in class
? / #63 / Tony Crudgington / Crudgington / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 2nd in class
? / #? / Richard Belcher / unknown / Ford Escort RS1600i / 3rd in class
Fastest lap: Phil Dowsett

My notes tell me that the Jerry Mahony Arquati RS500 was run by Roger Dowson, who, as I have now learned, was involved with the Austin Rover Sport MG Metro Turbo programme of 1983-1984.

The Bob Sands RS500 has been identified on the RS500 forums as a CC Motorsport entry. As David Cook ran the 1989 Vauxhall Astra GTE BTCC campain, would that mean that 1988 was the final year of CC Motorsport?

Jesper

**chunterer** · 9 Jan 2010, 10:52 (Ref:2610387)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Round 1 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 27th March 1988 held over x laps on the x.xxx miles Silverstone CLUB circuit.

As I only have top-6 overall results, I have listed the known drivers class-by-class.

Class A:
1./ #8 / Jerry Mahony / Dowson/ARQUATI / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / x laps / 25m02.12s
2./ #14 / Mike Newman / Goode / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 25m06.20s
3./ #17 / Bob Sands / CC / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 25m16.57s
? / #1 / Chris Hodgetts / MIL / A / Toyota Supra Turbo / 4th in class
? / #27/ Peter Buxtorf / Buxtorf / A / BMW 635CSi / 5th in class
? / #22 / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 6th in class
DNF / #19 / Laurence Bristow / Rouse/CAM SHIPPING / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired
DNF / #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired
DNF / #7 / Mike O'Brien / Docking / A / Holden Commodore VL / retired
Fastest lap: Andy Rouse

Class B:
4./ #33 / Frank Sytner / Prodrive / B / BMW M3 / 25m32.38s / 1st in class
5./ #32 / Mike Smith / Prodrive / B / BMW M3 / 25m36.35s / 2nd in class
6./ #36 / Godfrey Hall / Maguire / B / BMW M3 / 25m54.60s / 3rd in class
? / #44 / Alan Minshaw / Minshaw / B / BMW M3 / 4th in class
? / #38 / Dave Wallis / Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / 5th in class
? / #39 / Lionel Wiffen / Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / 6th in class
Fastest lap: Frank Sytner

Class C:
DNS / #55 / James Shead / Maguire / C / VW Golf GTI 16V / did not start
Fastest lap: unknown if any driver started.

Class D:
? / #70 / Phil Dowsett / TOM'S GB / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 1st in class
? / #63 / Tony Crudgington / Crudgington / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 2nd in class
? / #? / Richard Belcher / unknown/NORTH ESSEX? / Ford Escort RS1600i / 3rd in class
Fastest lap: Phil Dowsett

My notes tell me that the Jerry Mahony Arquati RS500 was run by Roger Dowson, who, as I have now learned, was involved with the Austin Rover Sport MG Metro Turbo programme of 1983-1984.

The Bob Sands RS500 has been identified on the RS500 forums as a CC Motorsport entry. As David Cook ran the 1989 Vauxhall Astra GTE BTCC campain, would that mean that 1988 was the final year of CC Motorsport?

Jesper

Jesper, whether it helps much I don't know but i've added a few things in bold for you. The opening round was held on the old club circuit, which was quite rare for the BTCC!

I think you are right about the Sands CC car. It didn't do the whole season, in fact I think it withdrew after the first handful of rounds. Anyone confirm this?

You may find the CC thread in History of further use chap:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112579

William Dale Jr · 9 Jan 2010, 11:12 (Ref:2610397)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Round 1 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 27th March 1988 held over x laps on the x.xxx miles Silverstone circuit.

As I only have top-6 overall results, I have listed the known drivers class-by-class.

The circuit used was the Club circuit, measuring 2.587km. The race length was 25 laps. These results are courtesy of Motorsport, who carried top 10 results for the BTCC throughout 1988 and half-way through 1989:

Position	Number	Driver	Car	Class	Race Time/Laps
1	8	Jerry Mahony	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	25m02.12s
2	14	Mike Newman	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	25m06.20s
3	17	Bob Sands	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	25m16.57s
4	33	Frank Sytner	BMW M3	B	25m32.38s
5	32	Mike Smith	BMW M3	B	25m36.35s
6	43	Godfrey Hall	BMW M3	B	25m37.07s
7	44	Alan Minshaw	BMW M3	B	25m54.60s
8	1	Chris Hodgetts	Toyota Supra Turbo	A	24 laps
9	27	Peter Buxtorf	BMW 635CSi	A	24 laps
10	70	Phil Dowsett	Toyota Corolla FX GT	D	23 laps
16	22	Andy Rouse	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A
DNF	15	Graham Goode	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A
DNF	19	Laurence Bristow	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A

A brief synopsis of the race from the review video:

Rouse makes a fantastic start from the pole to comfortably lead fellow-front-row-starter Mahony into Copse. Bristow spins out of third into retirement at Copse and was followed into the gravel by a fast-starting Mike O'Brien, who would extract himself and rejoin at the tail of the field. Rouse's comfortable lead evaporates exiting Copse on lap 2 as a turbo hose blows off. The Kaliber Sierra would rejoin the race after repairs, setting the fastest Class A lap on the way to 16th place at the finish.
New-leader Mahony is passed by a flying Goode, the Listerine Sierra appearing to have more power than the white Arquati car. However, it's all for naught as Goode's car retires with what appear to be engine problems. From there, Mahony carries on to a comfortable win. Frank Sytner takes the Class B win, whilst James Kaye (Volkswagen Golf GTi) and Phil Dowsett take the C and D class honors.

Jesper, I should be able to help you out a bit with results and colour for 1988. I have the review video, a full collection of Motorsport from 1988, and full results for rounds 6, 7, 8 and 9 from Autosport.

Tim Wilkinson · 9 Jan 2010, 11:14 (Ref:2610398)

Added some info - lap times, positions and reasons for retirement. Confirmed that Wallis was a Drury entry, and Dowson ran Mahony's car. Hall's given time was that of Alan Minshaw. Rouse was a classified finisher.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Round 1 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 27th March 1988 held over 25 laps on the x.xxx miles Silverstone circuit. 40.20miles.

Class A:
1./ #8 / Jerry Mahony / Dowson / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 25 laps / 25m02.12s
2./ #14 / Mike Newman / Goode / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 25m06.20s
3./ #17 / Bob Sands / CC / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 25m16.57s
8 / #1 / Chris Hodgetts / MIL / A / Toyota Supra Turbo / 4th in class - 24 laps
9 / #27/ Peter Buxtorf / Buxtorf / A / BMW 635CSi / 5th in class - 24 laps
16 / #22 / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 6th in class (classified 16th - 21 laps)
DNF / #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired - 12 laps, gearbox
DNF / ? / Graham Hathaway / Hathaway / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired - 6 laps, turbo hose
DNF / ? / Graham Goode / Graham Goode Engineering / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired - 6 laps, engine
DNF / ? / Pete Hall / ARE (Rouse) / A / Ford Sierra RS500 COsworth / retired - 5 laps, diff
DNF / #7 / Mike O'Brien / Docking / A / Holden Commodore VL / retired - 2 laps, puncture
DNF / #19 / Laurence Bristow / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / retired - 0 laps, accident

Fastest lap: Andy Rouse - 57.78s

Bristow went off at the first corner on cold tyres, Mike O'Brien flat-spotted his tyres avoiding him. 2 laps later a tyre burst, putting him out.
Rouse was leading, but a turbo hose worked loose and he had to pit on two occasions to have it re-attached.

Class B:
4./ #33 / Frank Sytner / Prodrive / B / BMW M3 / 25m32.38s / 1st in class
5./ #32 / Mike Smith / Prodrive / B / BMW M3 / 25m36.35s / 2nd in class
6./ #36 / Godfrey Hall / Maguire / B / BMW M3 / 25m37.07s / 3rd in class
7 / #44 / Alan Minshaw / Minshaw / B / BMW M3 / 25m54.60s / 4th in class
12 / #38 / Dave Wallis / Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / 5th in class - 23 laps
13 / #39 / Lionel Wiffen / Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / 6th in class - 23 laps

Fastest lap: Frank Sytner - 1m00.07s

Class C:
15 / #50? / James Kaye / Minshaw / C / VW Golf 1.8 GTi 16v / 1st in Class (22 laps)
DNS / #55 / James Shead / Maguire / C / VW Golf GTI 16V / did not start

Fastest lap: James Kaye - 1m07.41s

Shead's engine blew in practice. Kaye's had done the same on the dyno, so he was in his Prodsaloon car while the grpA engine was rebuilt.

Class D:
10 / #70 / Phil Dowsett / TOM'S GB / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 1st in class (23 laps)
11 / #63 / Tony Crudgington / Crudgington / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 2nd in class (23 laps)
14 / #? / Richard Belcher / CHMS / Ford Escort RS1600i / 3rd in class (22 laps)
DNF / #? / Kevin Eaton / MIL Motorsport / Toyota Corolla GT / retired - 4 laps, puncture

Fastest lap: Phil Dowsett - 1m04.07s

Eaton and Belcher had a coming together. Belcher spun, and Eaton retired as a result of the contact.

Grid - Top 10 Rouse (A pole 57.86s), Mahony, Goode, Bristow, Hall, Sands, O'Brien, Sytner (B pole 59.71s), Newman, Hall;
11th to 20th - Harvey, Smith, Hodgetts, Minshaw, Buxtorf, Hathaway, Dowsett (D pole 1m04.42), Crudgington, Belcher, Shead (C pole 1m06.77s (DNS);
21st -to 24th - Wallis, Eaton, Kaye, Wiffen

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 11:15 (Ref:2610399)

Everything will be appreciated, chunterer. Seeing the Dowson/Arquati entry for Jerry Mahony is in fact more userfriendly than just Dowson. Since I always associate Laurence Bristow with the Rouse-Labatt's car of 1989-90, it is nice to be made aware that he raced in CAM Shipping colours in 1988. I will give this a try in my next installment.

Jesper

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 11:17 (Ref:2610402)

Round 2 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 1st April 1988 over x laps on the x.xxx miles Oulton Park circuit.

Class A:
1./ #22 / Andy Rouse / Rouse-Kaliber / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / ? laps / 31m54.36s
2./ #7 / Mike O'Brien / Docking-Swan? / A / Holden Commodore VL / ? laps / 32m09.06s
3./ #8 / Jerry Mahony / Dowson-Arquati / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / ? laps / 32m40.10s
? / #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury-Istel / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 4th in class
? / #14 / Mike Newman / Goode-Listerine / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 5th in class
? / #27 / Peter Buxtorf / Buxtorf / A / BMW 635CSi / 6th in class
DNF / #19 / Laurence Bristow / Rouse-CAM Shipping / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
DNA / #6 / Steve Soper / Eggenberger-Texaco / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / Dock strike
Fastest lap: Laurence Bristow

Class B:
? / #33 / Frank Sytner / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 / 1st in class
? / #44 / Alan Minshaw / Minshaw-Demon Tweeks / B / BMW M3 / 2nd in class
? / #36 / Godfrey Hall / Maguire / B / BMW M3 / 3rd in class
? / #32 / Mike Smith / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 / 4th in class
Fastest lap: Frank Sytner

Class C:
? / #? / James Kaye / unknown / B / Honda Prelude? / ? in class
DNF / #48 / Andrew Jeffrey / Jeffrey?-Specialist Cars Aberdeen / VW Golf GTI 16V
Fastest lap: unknown

Class D:
? / #70 / Phil Dowsett / TOM's GB / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 1st in class
? / #60 / Mark Hales / Hodgetts / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 2nd in class
? / #77 / Geoff Kimber-Smith / Kimber-Smith / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 3rd in class
Fastest lap: Phil Dowsett

Jesper

Tim Wilkinson · 9 Jan 2010, 11:25 (Ref:2610404)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

I think you are right about the Sands CC car. It didn't do the whole season, in fact I think it withdrew after the first handful of rounds. Anyone confirm this?

Yes, it disappeared mid-season, and was up for sale for the latter part of the year. Ad says 4 events from new - it was built new for '88, and had a Rouse engine and suspension.

I think it reappeared in '89 as the first JQF/Fina car for Gerrit van Kouwen (before they brought out the "active" car mid-season) and also reappeared in '90 for a handful of outings with Stuart Donnan, before he Thundersaloon-ed it.

Other info for round 1 - Karl Jones was supposed to be there in the Asquith RS500, but a dock strike stopped some wheels arriving, and the team didn't think the car would be competitive on what it had (16s, as Avon tyres wouldn't fit the 17s they had) so they delayed until round 2 at Oulton. Geoff Kimber-Smith didn't have his Corolla ready in time - suspension issues.

Mike O'Brien was planning to debut an updated ex-Brock VL-SS Commodore at round 2.

**chunterer** · 9 Jan 2010, 11:28 (Ref:2610405)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Round 2 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 1st April 1988 over x laps on the x.xxx miles Oulton Park circuit.

Class A:
1./ #22 / Andy Rouse / Rouse-Kaliber / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / ? laps / 31m54.36s
2./ #7 / Mike O'Brien / Docking-Swan? / A / Holden Commodore VL / ? laps / 32m09.06s
Think the car may have been entered under Autoglass?
3./ #8 / Jerry Mahony / Dowson-Arquati / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / ? laps / 32m40.10s
? / #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury-Istel / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 4th in class
Istel backing came later in the year, IIRC Tim's car was almost plain white in the first few rounds? Needs confirming though.
? / #14 / Mike Newman / Goode-Listerine / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 5th in class
? / #27 / Peter Buxtorf / Buxtorf / A / BMW 635CSi / 6th in class
DNF / #19 / Laurence Bristow / Rouse-CAM Shipping / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
DNA / #6 / Steve Soper / Eggenberger-Texaco / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / Dock strike
Fastest lap: Laurence Bristow

Class B:
? / #33 / Frank Sytner / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 / 1st in class
Not completely sure but I think the works cars were entered under the Team BMW GB with Mobil 1 banner?
? / #44 / Alan Minshaw / Minshaw-Demon Tweeks / B / BMW M3 / 2nd in class
? / #36 / Godfrey Hall / Maguire / B / BMW M3 / 3rd in class
Hall had sponsorship from Mila, but that might not have been until later in season Jesper.
? / #32 / Mike Smith / Richards-Mobil / B / BMW M3 / 4th in class
Fastest lap: Frank Sytner

Class C:
? / #? / James Kaye / unknown / B / Honda Prelude? / ? in class
Fairly sure he was in a Golf 16v, likely the Demon Tweeks car?DNF / #48 / Andrew Jeffrey / Jeffrey?-Specialist Cars Aberdeen / VW Golf GTI 16V
This was also a John Maguire entry.
Fastest lap: unknown

Class D:
? / #70 / Phil Dowsett / TOM's GB / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 1st in class
? / #60 / Mark Hales / Hodgetts / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 2nd in class
? / #77 / Geoff Kimber-Smith / Kimber-Smith / D / Toyota Corolla GT / 3rd in class
AGK Motorsport might have been his 'official' entry.
Fastest lap: Phil Dowsett

Jesper

Few more titbits for you whilst i'm on Jesper!

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 11:29 (Ref:2610406)

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Dale Jr

The circuit used was the Club circuit, measuring 2.587km. The race length was 25 laps. These results are courtesy of Motorsport, who carried top 10 results for the BTCC throughout 1988 and half-way through 1989:

Position	Number	Driver	Car	Class	Race Time/Laps
1	8	Jerry Mahony	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	25m02.12s
2	14	Mike Newman	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	25m06.20s
3	17	Bob Sands	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	25m16.57s
4	33	Frank Sytner	BMW M3	B	25m32.38s
5	32	Mike Smith	BMW M3	B	25m36.35s
6	43	Godfrey Hall	BMW M3	B	25m37.07s
7	44	Alan Minshaw	BMW M3	B	25m54.60s
8	1	Chris Hodgetts	Toyota Supra Turbo	A	24 laps
9	27	Peter Buxtorf	BMW 635CSi	A	24 laps
10	70	Phil Dowsett	Toyota Corolla FX GT	D	23 laps
16	22	Andy Rouse	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A
DNF	15	Graham Goode	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A
DNF	19	Laurence Bristow	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A

A brief synopsis of the race from the review video:

Rouse makes a fantastic start from the pole to comfortably lead fellow-front-row-starter Mahony into Copse. Bristow spins out of third into retirement at Copse and was followed into the gravel by a fast-starting Mike O'Brien, who would extract himself and rejoin at the tail of the field. Rouse's comfortable lead evaporates exiting Copse on lap 2 as a turbo hose blows off. The Kaliber Sierra would rejoin the race after repairs, setting the fastest Class A lap on the way to 16th place at the finish.
New-leader Mahony is passed by a flying Goode, the Listerine Sierra appearing to have more power than the white Arquati car. However, it's all for naught as Goode's car retires with what appear to be engine problems. From there, Mahony carries on to a comfortable win. Frank Sytner takes the Class B win, whilst James Kaye (Volkswagen Golf GTi) and Phil Dowsett take the C and D class honors.

Jesper, I should be able to help you out a bit with results and colour for 1988. I have the review video, a full collection of Motorsport from 1988, and full results for rounds 6, 7, 8 and 9 from Autosport.

Thank you, William, for the review and your results table - that would be my preferred method of presenting the results too, but haven't found a way around that yet, but will give it a go soon. Didn't know there was a 1988 video review? Of all rounds?

Jesper

**chunterer** · 9 Jan 2010, 11:32 (Ref:2610407)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Didn't know there was a 1988 video review? Of all rounds?

Jesper

Yes, you'll find some on ebay I suspect. I had mine from new and it's quite a long runner!!

There's some '87 reviews that have been converted to DVD on there too, likely home converted versions but the one I brought plays properly. That might also be of interest to you.

KA · 9 Jan 2010, 11:34 (Ref:2610408)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

I think you are right about the Sands CC car. It didn't do the whole season, in fact I think it withdrew after the first handful of rounds. Anyone confirm this?

You may find the CC thread in History of further use chap:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112579

The Bob Sands CC Motorsport car only did the first four rounds AFAIK- (3rd at Silverstone, DNFs at Oulton & Thruxton, and 6th, sharing with Richard Jones at the Donington 1-hour race) but I don't think it was seen again- unless he appeared at the British GP support, which I think is one that's missing from my notes of 1988's results.
IIRC, a good pic of the car (which I think is only about the second pic I've ever seen of it on the web!) turned up on the Autosport Nostalgia Forum's RS500 thread a few weeks back- think I posted a link to it in 'our' RS500 thread.

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 11:37 (Ref:2610409)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Wilkinson

Added some info - lap times, positions and reasons for retirement. Confirmed that Wallis was a Drury entry, and Dowson ran Mahony's car. Hall's given time was that of Alan Minshaw. Rouse was a classified finisher.

Does that mean that Minshaw completed the race in 25:37.07 and that Godfrey Hall had an elapsed time betwin the Mike Smith time of 25:36.35 and 25:37.07? Close race, then!

Grid - Top 10 Rouse (A pole 57.86s), Mahony, Goode, Bristow, Hall, Sands, O'Brien, Sytner (B pole 59.71s), Newman, Hall;
11th to 20th - Harvey, Smith, Hodgetts, Minshaw, Buxtorf, Hathaway, Dowsett (D pole 1m04.42), Crudgington, Belcher, Shead (C pole 1m06.77s (DNS);
21st -to 24th - Wallis, Eaton, Kaye, Wiffen

Thank your updates, Tim. From your grid I would assume 24 cars and drivers were present for the opening round of which 23 started. Looking back a year there were 15 starters with an additional 3 non-starters, making 1989 looking a lot healthier.

Jesper

KA · 9 Jan 2010, 11:40 (Ref:2610410)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Everything will be appreciated, chunterer. Seeing the Dowson/Arquati entry for Jerry Mahony is in fact more userfriendly than just Dowson. Since I always associate Laurence Bristow with the Rouse-Labatt's car of 1989-90, it is nice to be made aware that he raced in CAM Shipping colours in 1988. I will give this a try in my next installment.

Jesper

Four Rouse-run Sierras appeared in '88- the Kaliber pair for Rouse and Guy Edwards, Pete Hall's ICS car (taken over by Robb Gravett & Mark Hales after mid-season) and the CAM Shipping car for Bristow. From memory, Bristow's car sometimes appeared on entry lists as being entered by 'Baynard Cars'
A (not particularly good) pic from the TT- I think the Shell Gemini backing might have been a one-off for this race, as Gravett shared the car with Bristow
http://www.flickr.com/photos/75026346@N00/4121101007/

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 11:42 (Ref:2610413)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA

The Bob Sands CC Motorsport car only did the first four rounds AFAIK- (3rd at Silverstone, DNFs at Oulton & Thruxton, and 6th, sharing with Richard Jones at the Donington 1-hour race) but I don't think it was seen again- unless he appeared at the British GP support, which I think is one that's missing from my notes of 1988's results.
IIRC, a good pic of the car (which I think is only about the second pic I've ever seen of it on the web!) turned up on the Autosport Nostalgia Forum's RS500 thread a few weeks back- think I posted a link to it in 'our' RS500 thread.

I have quietly been guessing that the few Bob Sands/CC Motorsport races of 1988 could have been due to the dissolvement of the Peter Clarke and David Cook partnership, as Cook was race ready with Vauxhall for 1989.

Looking through late '88 Autosports that same shot seems to appear (haven't checked) in b/w in a sales advert. "Our" RS500 thread as the original, the first

Jesper

Tim Wilkinson · 9 Jan 2010, 11:46 (Ref:2610415)

The times I put in my post are the ones given in Autosport. What I meant was that the time you originally had for Hall finsihing 3rd in class was actually that of Minshaw, 4th in class, and Hall had been right on the tail of the Prodrive BMWs.

KA · 9 Jan 2010, 11:48 (Ref:2610417)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

Few more titbits for you whilst i'm on Jesper!

/ #5 / Tim Harvey / Drury-Istel / A / Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth / 4th in class
Istel backing came later in the year, IIRC Tim's car was almost plain white in the first few rounds? Needs confirming though

I'm sure you're right about that- I think there were a few one-off sponsorship deals here and there in the early rounds, but the car was predominantly plain white until the Istel backing came back. I've seen a pic of it recently in that state, in a contemporary Piper Cams magazine ad- Piper were the most visible sponsor on the car early-season, and stayed on the car after the return of Istel

Donington late-season in Istel/Piper colours
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7502634...n/photostream/

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 11:51 (Ref:2610418)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Wilkinson

The times I put in my post are the ones given in Autosport. What I meant was that the time you originally had for Hall finsihing 3rd in class was actually that of Minshaw, 4th in class, and Hall had been right on the tail of the Prodrive BMWs.

See your point now. Overwhelmet of the replies, I haven't checked my original data yet.

Jesper

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 12:00 (Ref:2610421)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA

I'm sure you're right about that- I think there were a few one-off sponsorship deals here and there in the early rounds, but the car was predominantly plain white until the Istel backing came back. I've seen a pic of it recently in that state, in a contemporary Piper Cams magazine ad- Piper were the most visible sponsor on the car early-season, and stayed on the car after the return of Istel

Donington late-season in Istel/Piper colours
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7502634...n/photostream/

I should have known better, as I half remember Tim Harvey telling the story of Istel becomming a sponsor during the 1988 season in an Autosport interview late 1980's/early 1990's. Don't know why Istel dropped Harvey in the first place as they seemed to go very well together in future deals, but had it something to do with Austin Rover products vs. Ford? Another vague memory, that is.

I will continue my current format of presenting the results but as there seems to be a lot more info around than for the earlier years, I will re-post them with the info gathered, when the dust is about to settle.

Jesper

William Dale Jr · 9 Jan 2010, 12:04 (Ref:2610422)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

Round 2 of 13 of the 1988 Dunlop RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday 1st April 1988 over x laps on the x.xxx miles Oulton Park circuit.

The full circuit was used, measuring 4.456km. The race length was scheduled to be 20 laps, but the race was stopped after 17 laps due to a big accident between Sytner and Minshaw that saw the Demon Tweeks M3 roll ending up on the wrong side of the guardrail. Results, once again, courtesy of Motorsport:

Position	Number	Entrant	Driver	Car	Class	Race Time/Laps
1	22	Rouse / Kaliber	Andy Rouse	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	31m54.36s
2	7	Alan Docking Racing	Mike O'Brien	Holden Commodore VL (HDT)	A	32m09.06s
3	8	Roger Dowson / Arquati	Jerry Mahony	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	32m40.10s
4	5	Terry Drury Racing	Tim Harvey	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	32m52.79s
5	14	Graham Goode / Burlington	Mike Newman	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	32m55.38s
6	33	Prodrive	Frank Sytner	BMW M3	B	33m14.25s
7	44	Demon Tweeks	Alan Minshaw	BMW M3	B	33m15.24s
8	43	John Maguire	Godfrey Hall	BMW M3	B	33m20.00s
9	27	Peter Buxtorf	Peter Buxtorf	BMW 635CSi	A	16 laps
10	70	TOM'S GB	Phil Dowsett	Toyota Corolla FX GT	D	16 laps

KA · 9 Jan 2010, 12:09 (Ref:2610429)

If it helps, I've copied over the 1988 entry list I posted in the other thread Jesper linked to- with a few corrections/additions since I originally did it. First driver named started the season, the others mentioned either shared the car at Donington or replaced/stood in for the original driver at some point in the year....

Class A

1 MIL Motorsport Toyota Supra Turbo: Chris Hodgetts/Vic Lee/Mark Hales/Ian Flux
2 MIL Motorsport Supra Turbo: Vic Lee
4 Dennis Leech Rover Vitesse: Dennis Leech/David Carvell
5 Terry Drury Racing Ford Sierra RS500: Tim Harvey
6 Eggenberger RS500: Steve Soper/Gianfranco Brancatelli
7 Alan Docking Racing Holden Commodore VL: Mike O'Brien/Sean Brown
8 Roger Dowson/Arquati RS500: Jerry Mahony/Mark Hales
10 Rouse/ICS RS500; Pete Hall/Gary Ayles/Robb Gravett/Mark Hales
11 Brooklyn Motorsport RS500: Chris Hodgetts
12 TWR Holden Commodore VL: Tom Walkinshaw
14 Graham Goode/Burlington RS500: Mike Newman/Robert Speak
15 Graham Goode/Listerine RS500: Graham Goode/Alistair Lyall
16 Asquith Autosport RS500: Karl Jones/Ian Flux
17 CC Motosport/Crystal RS500: Bob Sands/Richard Jones
19 Rouse/Baynard Cars/CAM Shipping RS500: Laurence Bristow/Tim Harvey
20 Graham Hathaway RS500; Graham Hathaway/Peter Townsend/Rob Wilson
21 Rouse/Kaliber RS500: Guy Edwards/Johnny Dumfries
22 Rouse/Kaliber RS500: Andy Rouse/David Sears
23 Nissan M'sport Europe Nissan Skyline GTSR: Win Percy/Allan Grice
24 Trident Motorsport Maserati Biturbo: Nick May/John Lepp
26 ECM Vehicle Delivery RS500: Tom Bell/Ray McDowell
27 Peter Buxtorf BMW 635CSI: Peter Buxtorf/Barry Robinson
30 BBR RS500: Dave Brodie

31 Brookside Garage Alfa Romeo 75 V6: Jon Dooley
32 Prodrive BMW M3: Mike Smith/Will Hoy/James Weaver
33 Prodrive M3: Frank Sytner/James Weaver
34 Prodrive M3: Will Hoy/Lionel Abbott
36 John Maguire M3: David Sears
38 Terry Drury Ford Escort RS Turbo: Dave Wallis/Lionel Abbott
39 Terry Drury Escort RS Turbo: Lionel Wiffen/Robin Parsons
43 John Maguire M3; Godfrey Hall/Barrie Williams
44 Demon Tweeks M3: Alan Minshaw/Roland Ratzenberger/Chris Hodgetts

Class C
48 Specialist Cars Aberdeen VW Golf GTI: Andrew Jeffrey/John Clark
50 Demon Tweeks Golf GTI: Jmes Kaye/John Brindley/John Llewellyn/John Morris
55 John Maguire Golf GTI: James Shead/John Morris
?? Hawes Group Honda Prelude: Martin Wray

Class D

Still can't swear I've got the MIL & CHMS Corollas 100% right....

60 CHMS Toyota Corolla GT: Mark Hales/Patrick Watts
61/69 MIL Motorsport Corolla: Kevin Eaton/Alex Moss/John Llewellyn
61 CHMS Corolla: Dave Loudoun/Nick Whale/Mark Goddard/Richard Belcher
63 Tony Crudgington Corolla: Tony Crudgington/Alistair Davidson
70 TOM'S GB Corolla (fwd) : Phil Dowsett/Tiff Needell
74 North Essex M'sport Ford Escort RS1600i- Vic Lee/Jeremy Rossiter/Barbara Cowell
75 AJG Transport RS1600i- Mark Goddard
77 AGK Motorsport Corolla: Geoff Kimber-Smith/Barbara Cowell

KA · 9 Jan 2010, 12:31 (Ref:2610441)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesper OH

I should have known better, as I half remember Tim Harvey telling the story of Istel becomming a sponsor during the 1988 season in an Autosport interview late 1980's/early 1990's. Don't know why Istel dropped Harvey in the first place as they seemed to go very well together in future deals, but had it something to do with Austin Rover products vs. Ford? Another vague memory, that is.

I will continue my current format of presenting the results but as there seems to be a lot more info around than for the earlier years, I will re-post them with the info gathered, when the dust is about to settle.

Jesper

They hadn't dropped Harvey totally, as they were still backing the Harvey/Hodgetts Tiga in the BRDC C2 sportscar series- though that of course used an Austin Rover engine. Must admit, I hadn't thought of the ARG v Ford angle to the question. They did sponsor his outings in the Charles Ivey Tiga-Porsche at Le Mans though IIRC

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 12:32 (Ref:2610442)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Wilkinson

Yes, it disappeared mid-season, and was up for sale for the latter part of the year. Ad says 4 events from new - it was built new for '88, and had a Rouse engine and suspension.

I think it reappeared in '89 as the first JQF/Fina car for Gerrit van Kouwen (before they brought out the "active" car mid-season) and also reappeared in '90 for a handful of outings with Stuart Donnan, before he Thundersaloon-ed it.

Other info for round 1 - Karl Jones was supposed to be there in the Asquith RS500, but a dock strike stopped some wheels arriving, and the team didn't think the car would be competitive on what it had (16s, as Avon tyres wouldn't fit the 17s they had) so they delayed until round 2 at Oulton. Geoff Kimber-Smith didn't have his Corolla ready in time - suspension issues.

Mike O'Brien was planning to debut an updated ex-Brock VL-SS Commodore at round 2.

Missed this post first time out. Was those wheels French Gotti rims? They were used on a fair few rally Cossies, but rare on the circuits.

GK-S was a DNA then

Jesper

Jesper OH · 9 Jan 2010, 12:39 (Ref:2610445)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA

They hadn't dropped Harvey totally, as they were still backing the Harvey/Hodgetts Tiga in the BRDC C2 sportscar series- though that of course used an Austin Rover engine. Must admit, I hadn't thought of the ARG v Ford angle to the question. They did sponsor his outings in the Charles Ivey Tiga-Porsche at Le Mans though IIRC

Then again, ARG and Porsche were never really in competition for the average consumer car market like ARG and Ford. But it also begs the question, what was Istel dealing in? They had sponsored the high profile Tourist Trophy from mid-1980s to the comma in 1988.

Jesper

KA · 9 Jan 2010, 12:50 (Ref:2610449)

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Dale Jr

The full circuit was used, measuring 4.456km. The race length was scheduled to be 20 laps, but the race was stopped after 17 laps due to a big accident between Sytner and Minshaw that saw the Demon Tweeks M3 roll ending up on the wrong side of the guardrail. Results, once again, courtesy of Motorsport:

I think I can fill the rest of that in from 11th place on:

Position	Number	Entrant	Driver	Car	Class	Race Time/Laps
1	22	Rouse / Kaliber	Andy Rouse	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	31m54.36s
2	7	Alan Docking Racing	Mike O'Brien	Holden Commodore VL (HDT)	A	32m09.06s
3	8	Roger Dowson / Arquati	Jerry Mahony	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	32m40.10s
4	5	Terry Drury Racing	Tim Harvey	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	32m52.79s
5	14	Graham Goode / Burlington	Mike Newman	Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500	A	32m55.38s
6	33	Prodrive	Frank Sytner	BMW M3	B	33m14.25s
7	44	Demon Tweeks	Alan Minshaw	BMW M3	B	33m15.24s
8	43	John Maguire	Godfrey Hall	BMW M3	B	33m20.00s
9	27	Peter Buxtorf	Peter Buxtorf	BMW 635CSi	A	16 laps
10	70	TOM'S GB	Phil Dowsett	Toyota Corolla FX GT	D	16 laps
11	??	CHMS?	Mark Hales	Toyota Corolla GT	D	16 laps
12	77	AGK Motorsport	Geoff Kimber-Smith	Toyota Corolla GT	D	16 laps
13	20	Graham Hathaway Racing	Graham Hathaway	Sierra RS500	A	16 laps
14	32	Prodrive	Mike Smith	BMW M3	B	16 laps
15	69?	MIL Motorsport?	Kevin Eaton	Corolla GT	D	15 laps
DNF	50	Demon Tweeks	James Kaye	VW Golf GTi 16v	C	15 laps- driveshaft
DNF	39	Terry Drury Racing	Lionel Wiffen	Ford Escort RS Turbo	B	12 laps- turbo
DNF	15	Graham Goode/Listerine	Graham Goode	Sierra RS500	A	11 laps-electrics
DNF	19	Rouse/CAM Shipping	Lawrence Bristow	Sierra RS500	A	10 laps- differential
DNF	10	Rouse/ICS	Pete Hall	Sierra RS500	A	4 laps- reason unknown
DNF	16	Asquith/Duckhams	Karl Jones	Sierra RS500	A	4 laps-overheating
DNF	48	Specialist Cars Aberdeen	Andrew Jeffrey	Golf GTi 16v	C	3 laps- driveshaft
DNF	38	Terry Drury Racing	Dave Wallis	Escort RS Turbo	B	3 laps- gearbox
DNF	17	CC Motorsport	Bob Sands	Sierra RS500	A	0 laps- clutch
DNF	1	MIL Motorsport	Chris Hodgetts	Toyota Supra Turbo	A	0 laps- driveshaft

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