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Old 23 Dec 2002, 11:52 (Ref:456057)   #1
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Martin Brundle at Jaguar???

An article at F1-Live says Martin is rumoured to take over from Niki Lauda at Jaguar!! Personally, I find this incredible, as is the suggestion that Nigell might be looking in that direction.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 12:12 (Ref:456076)   #2
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Would this be an advisory role, or taking over the full management? Presumably he couldn't do this alongside the ITV Commentary, so for that reason alone I hope he doesn't get the job- he is one of the best analysers out there.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 12:14 (Ref:456077)   #3
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I read that Martin was asked to take on the role about the time that Lauda got the job but turned it down.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 13:35 (Ref:456121)   #4
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I don't doubt Jaguar would love to have Martin on board, even in an advisory role.

But I reckon Martin enjoys the tv work, and any role with Jag would conflict with his existing professional relationship with DC.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 14:19 (Ref:456155)   #5
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and would Brundle do any good in that position?

i would rather him in the talking cube
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 17:31 (Ref:456260)   #6
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If he did leave we could cope - now that Sky's down the pan John Watson's looking for work!
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 17:43 (Ref:456266)   #7
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James Allen and John Watson. I hope not. I would prefer (please please please, it's Christmas!) Ben Edwards and Martin Brundle. That would rock!

As for Martin and Jaguar. I think it is just a case of linking an ex (proper) Jaguar driver with that F1 team thing. Tom Walkinshaw has been linked with Jaguar F1 too!

Martin has been part of DC's advising team for years. He has also had an advisory role at Arrows. He is also, of course, a TV commentator. IIRC correctly he did all three of these at the same point once (1997?). So, I suppose, there is no reason that he couldn't again, although now his role in the BRDC is much bigger than then.

Another coincidence was that he was involved in Arrows with Tom Walkinshaw and, of course, was involved in the Jaguar success (yes they did have some) at Le Mans.

Maybe Tom will run the F1 team and Brundle will be the overall advisor.

But I doubt it!

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Actually thats a point! now Sky is defunct surely ITV must snap up Ben Edwards? I can't say that anyone actually likes James Allen, although he does take a lot of abuse from fans etc, he isn't the worst commentator ive heard, but hes far from the best.

ITV getting Edwards would be great.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 18:45 (Ref:456305)   #9
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ITV getting Edwards would be great.
I thought that they signed him earlier this year, but i was hoping it would be as replacement for James Allen.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 18:45 (Ref:456307)   #10
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James Allen and Carlton Kirby would be the commentary team from hell. If ITV want the ratings to drop further then hire these guys for 2003.

My own suggestion would be the three lunatics from the Aussie V8 Brutes. They rock ;-)
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 18:55 (Ref:456316)   #11
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Ben Edwards has already dne the Touring Cars for ITV, so his promotion to F1 coverage would be great, but I'd still prefer Brundle to be involved.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 18:55 (Ref:456317)   #12
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Brundle would have to choose between commentating or going to Jaguar as he could hardly be objective if he was "in bed" with one of the teams.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 20:09 (Ref:456366)   #13
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I think Ben and Martin would be the dream team 4 itv, now that we have 2 do with out sky's coverage its the next best thing..... untill the BBC get it back
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 21:36 (Ref:456412)   #14
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But I reckon Martin enjoys the tv work, and any role with Jag would conflict with his existing professional relationship with DC.
A little like his commentary work?
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 21:47 (Ref:456420)   #15
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Common guys, be real. If Martin were to take over from Lauda and run Jaguar, he would be sweating it out in the pits during every race. This is a full time job - 26 hours a day, 8 days a week. How on earth would anyone even contemplate he could commentate as well? However, I would think that the CEO job at Jaguar would pay a helluva lot more than ITV for his commentary. Niki's settlement at Jaguar was rumoured to be three and a half million. With that sort of income for a year, Martin could retire afterwards.
As for being DC's advisor or manager or agent or whatever, I can't see the conflict of interest here. He certainly wouldn't be telling DC to move over for a Jaguar driver during a race now, would he?
The thing about the Jaguar CEO position, it seems to be a poisoned chalice, with turnover being higher than their driver turnover.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 21:59 (Ref:456428)   #16
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He's hardly objective as DC's manager...



what is Brundle's back round in race teammanagement? Ex-racing drivers really shouldnt be running teams, their massive egos get in the way.
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Old 23 Dec 2002, 22:46 (Ref:456457)   #17
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DC certainly doesn't get biased treatment in the commentary box from Martin. Sometimes we get a bit of insider information, but that's it. When he has to be critical of DC he is.

As I mentioned before. Martin was involved in Arrows and commentating in 1997. So I don't see how there can be conflict if he has a similar role with Jaguar.

Of course, it depends what his role is. If he is offered the same role that Lauda turned down the other day then this isn't a 24/7 running of Jaguar F1. It is an advisory role. (?)

I doubt it'll be the day-to-day CEO job.

But then I doubt it'll be any job!
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Maybe Jaguar will approach Bobby, or even Jackie - who knows? The silly season isn't over, not by a long shot.
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Old 24 Dec 2002, 10:06 (Ref:456671)   #19
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I've seen plenty of rumours (that's all they are) that Jaguar/Ford are trying everything to get Jackie back into the operation.
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Isn't Jackie involved (temporarily) at the moment?
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He certainly used to be with Jaguar to "keep the sponsors and guests happy" basically. Can't remember if he quit that or not.
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Maybe Jaguar will approach [..........]Jackie - who knows?
They have and he turned it down.
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Old 24 Dec 2002, 14:34 (Ref:456811)   #23
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Another desperate attempt by Jaguar.What could Brundle bring to the team?DC?That would be a bigger screw up than signing Pizzonia and Webber.
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think Mansell will spearhead the Ford operation at Jordan as a go between jordan and martin whitaker ford motorsport boss... Mansell worked with Ford both in Indycar and his touring car adventures he also has close working's with Eddie Jordan and has tested for his team in 1996/7 i think it was
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