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Old 30 Nov 2008, 17:48 (Ref:2344328)   #1
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Cold Fire | The Ultimate Fire Extinguisher????

Only came across this the other day. On sale since 1991!

Anyone used it? Is it really that much better than normal AFFF?

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Cold Fire is a non-toxic, eco-friendly fire extinguishing agent that can put out any Class A, B or D fire - structures, brush, cars and tires, metals, hydrocarbons and polar solvents - in less time, with a fraction of the water.
Check out where a piece of magnesium is picked up with bare hands about ten seconds after it was on fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WTi44XvKds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DyGDc4d4i0


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Fire_(product)

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Old 1 Dec 2008, 00:17 (Ref:2344550)   #2
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Your link didn't quite work, so here's my attempt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Fire_(product)
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Unless it's FIA (or MSA in the UK) approved, you can't use it officially. You may be able to carry it around for extra ballast (like I carried an ABC powder extinguisher in my car, along side the AFFF plumbed in job)
Many scrutineering arguments will follow no doubt (if you have one!)
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Well, the AFFF extinguishers that we have been made to have for the last few years should realy be properly assessed. To put a blanket ban on the old CTC type so that we help to save the planet etc is ridiculous IMHO as we are not firing them off everyday for a laugh ! Although the military and the CAA are still allowed to use them, why, because they work well and don't leave a corrosive mess.
I don't know how many 10/10thers have had a serious fire and had to try them out, but compared with the outlawed Pyrene (CTC ) one's they ain't too good.
I had a petrol fire in my racecar at work and 1 might as well have "peed" on it for what good the plumbed in one did ! It was a good job someone picked up a workshop one and ran to assist me otherwise I would have lost the car.
Also as the newer one's chemicals are highly corrosive the car needs to be pressure washed off pretty quickly afterwards (if there's anything left ! )

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IRL rescue trucks are equipped with "Cold Fire". Other pro-sports oganizers may also employ it.

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IRL rescue trucks are equipped with "Cold Fire". Other pro-sports oganizers may also employ it.

Wonder how they rate it against AFFF?
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Wonder how they rate it against AFFF?
Did the "powers that be" even know about it when they knew the CTF ban was coming in ?
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AFFF - next to useless IMHO. Did a rally at Pembrey just after the change to AFFF and a Cozzy had an under bonnet oil fire. Tried plumbed-in system and 7! hand-helds from the following cars to put it out all without success. In the end someone got hold of a powder extinguisher and put it out in a few seconds.

AFFF just bounces off radiators, at least the old BCF's went through and filled the engine bay!
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