GT6 - World rankings - How do they do it?

[valet_dave]

I've never spent too much time on seasonal events unless I need to generate funds, however last night I happened to notice my ranking at somewhere around 65,000. Ouch!

The thing is... with everyone using the "provided" car, the lap times some of these guys are clocking seem to be astonishing. Admittedly I normally give up after about 3 attempts (I usually only go for a bronze trophie), but still, we're talking nearly 10 seconds difference on a single lap, with the same car, without any mods. Since your lap is invalidated if you cut a corner or "go off," I'm really at a loss to see how some of these times can be achieved.

Do we have any masters on this forum that can share some of these secrets?

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by valet_dave

I've never spent too much time on seasonal events unless I need to generate funds, however last night I happened to notice my ranking at somewhere around 65,000. Ouch!

The thing is... with everyone using the "provided" car, the lap times some of these guys are clocking seem to be astonishing. Admittedly I normally give up after about 3 attempts (I usually only go for a bronze trophie), but still, we're talking nearly 10 seconds difference on a single lap, with the same car, without any mods. Since your lap is invalidated if you cut a corner or "go off," I'm really at a loss to see how some of these times can be achieved.

Do we have any masters on this forum that can share some of these secrets?

Are you using a wheel or 'just' a controller - I use a controller (don't play often enough to warrant a wheel / pedals setup) and you really can't get near a 'wheel' time with a controller. I've used a wheel on someone elses setup and was immediately faster using the same car/setup on any given circuit.

[chunder]

A lot of the times set in these cars use a certain amount of careful setup work too.

Invariably these challenges force you to use an awful tyre combination.

But the physics in the game are seemingly based on things other than weight and power as in one example I was using a road based car tha hit every limit to the point, was on the weight limit, on the power limit and one the RR limit.

I could not get a time near gold, so I went on their forum and found is if you used a race car, added tons of weight, ulled down the power you could easily beat it and I did by seconds.

The physics in the game are fairly flawed really, but these challenges are there to catch you out! In thoery both cars shoudl be setting similar times, but in GT6's mind because one was a race car and one a road car, even on the same tyres, the race car had to be quicker even though it was massively heavy and detuned. but on the same tyres!

[JABWOA]

Also, some of these fast people have way too much time on their hands and practise, practise, practise using the track limits to the Nth.

[chunder]

That is how GT Academy works really.

Put anyone with a reasonable idea of how to get round a track, spend hundreds of thousands on them and they would do a decent job given the car, budget and everything that they get.

I am sure most of the top few thousand would do just as good a job as the guys that have won it.

I remember doing the first stage of that in the Leaf, I got to within a second of the best time and gave up! There really was nowhere else within my eyes that you could find the time, then I uploaded a ghost and could see that even on acceleration there was a difference, thats when I stopped playing.

[adam46]

I've somewhere around 870th I believe, using a controller.

A few tips, from my own experiences:

Slow in, Fast out: Yes, it's a cliché, but a good exit from almost every corner is key.

'The Complex' AKA Turn 3 and 4 (Village): Around here, do all you can to get a great exit from the corner, even if that means sacrificing the entry somewhat. If you're feeling brave, a dab of handbrake can often help you get around the corner a lot quicker without compromising your exit.

Hangar Straight: At the Maggots/Becketts section, make sure you take a flowing, fast line throughout, and get on the power as early as you can without crashing. You can make up as much as half a second at this section, particularly the last part before the Hangar Straight.

Last sector: No idea, frankly. I know I'll be able to hit a high 2:05 once I figure it out.

[valet_dave]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

Are you using a wheel or 'just' a controller

I'm using an old Logitech wheel from my PS2. I definitely find it easier than a controller, particularly when the car is a bit slippery.

Originally Posted by chunder

I uploaded a ghost and could see that even on acceleration there was a difference, thats when I stopped playing.

I'd love to be able to load a ghost from a top 1000 GT Academy lap, it would be interesting to see it done. I've heard people say that removing driving aids like ABS and traction control will improve acceleration and braking performance (that's about all you can do in GT Academy), but I personally haven't noticed much difference.

Originally Posted by adam46

A few tips, from my own experiences:

Slow in, Fast out: Yes, it's a cliché, but a good exit from almost every corner is key.

Thanks for the tips. I must admit my lines and exit speeds did get more consistent after I eased off the entry speed. Maybe it's just a matter of more practice, although I'm probably just not prepared to put in the amount of hours required to break into the top 50,000! I was hoping I'd just be able to blame the car... or the programmers, for my lack of competitiveness.

On the real track, it was always so obvious where I was losing time and what a good lap "felt like"... not so much in the sim world.

[chunder]

To be honest though]

Once, you have played a proper sim on a PC anything you play too much on a console will feel awful!.

So my suggestion is to spend a few quid on a second ahnd G25 or 27, get a half decent PC, get Rfactor for a few quid, download a few decent mods and then see whta it feels like.

it will blow your mind!

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by chunder

To be honest though]

Once, you have played a proper sim on a PC anything you play too much on a console will feel awful!.

So my suggestion is to spend a few quid on a second ahnd G25 or 27, get a half decent PC, get Rfactor for a few quid, download a few decent mods and then see whta it feels like.

it will blow your mind!

Yeah that.

I was addicted to GT4 and then I bought a decent (at the time) PC, half priced Logitech DFP wheel and 50 bucks for rFactor.

I now find it very hard to get excited about GT4. The PS2 just sits there, gathering dust.

[chunder]

To be fair the Gran Turismo series has eben a series of patches in recent years.

Still very good and really the only sim ish based thing on Playstation, but once you hvae played a decent sim on a PC with a wheel, even playing GT with a wheel feels like playing Ridge Racer

[valet_dave]

I've always had a capable PC for gaming, but the problem with a PC is that it has to sit on a desk because it gets used for other things. In comparison, the PS3 allows me to sit on my favourite lounge chair in front of a big screen.

Even if you go a laptop with a HDMI to your big screen, the cost of doing that compared to a Playstation makes it difficult to justify to the Director of Valet_Dave Motorsport.