LM24 Race Animated short film about Le Mans 1955

deggis · 21 Nov 2019, 15:49 (Ref:3941948)

Nice style and good attention to detail.

S griffin · 21 Nov 2019, 17:53 (Ref:3941972)

It’s weird, me and my friend were talking about this race today for some reason.

That cartoon really, more than anything else, captured the emotional impact of all involved

GT6 · 21 Nov 2019, 20:26 (Ref:3942002)

Strange

**Aysedasi** · 21 Nov 2019, 20:30 (Ref:3942003)

I found it rather strange too. Is the dialogue fictional or did the makers have a source for it?

deggis · 21 Nov 2019, 21:21 (Ref:3942014)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I found it rather strange too. Is the dialogue fictional or did the makers have a source for it?

I would assume it is fictional.

Nick Woodbury · 22 Nov 2019, 01:29 (Ref:3942057)

That was quite the moving bit, very powerful and well animated. I loved the design style color palate chosen by the creator(s).

Interesting though, why did they choose to have the accident occur at dusk/night? Sure, the original film of the actual accident is grainy and poorly processed, but it is quite obvious that the accident happened well before dusk. Creator's liberties?

S griffin · 22 Nov 2019, 08:49 (Ref:3942098)

I think the accident happened around 6:00?

Mike Bell · 22 Nov 2019, 12:26 (Ref:3942125)

Very well done, and agree about the attention to detail.

But why?

**Aysedasi** · 22 Nov 2019, 14:41 (Ref:3942156)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

I think the accident happened around 6:00?

Yes, two hours in as I recall.

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Very well done, and agree about the attention to detail.

But why?

Good question.....

Nick Woodbury · 22 Nov 2019, 16:50 (Ref:3942191)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Yes, two hours in as I recall.

Good question.....

I'm confused by yours and others skepticism about this. Do you feel this film is not warranted purely because of the severity of the disaster and the lives lost? If anything, this story is far more compelling and worthy of a hollywood adaptation than Ford vs. Ferrari, I know....hot take.

Mike Bell · 22 Nov 2019, 18:25 (Ref:3942207)

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Originally Posted by Nick Woodbury

I'm confused by yours and others skepticism about this. Do you feel this film is not warranted purely because of the severity of the disaster and the lives lost?

No, I’m curious, not skeptical. Just seems a strange subject to make an
animated film about......

chernaudi · 22 Nov 2019, 19:53 (Ref:3942217)

If the film is done as a form of documentary, I can maybe understand it's purpose from an educational perspective. That said, there's a few actual documentaries about LM '55.

Nick Woodbury · 22 Nov 2019, 20:18 (Ref:3942218)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

No, I’m curious, not skeptical. Just seems a strange subject to make an
animated film about......

Aye got'cha.

I don't mean to speak for the French members on this forum or the French racing fans in general, but the '55 Disaster no doubt still resonates with some people to this very day including the creator, much in the same way Senna's death resonated with fans in Brazil and Dale Earnhardt with nascar fans. You look at those events and plenty of documentaries, specials and movies have been made regarding them. Having said that, I am not at all surprised the creator went ahead with something like this.

As for the design choices, by choosing to tell the story using animation, as opposed to live action, it really opens up a lot more possibilities to add gravitas and mood to this story which deserves to be told given its obvious significance. Plus, it undoubtedly a lot more cheaper to animate it rather than source a huge budget for a live action piece by having to build a section of the 1955 pit straight and fill in the rest of it with CG, extras, cars etc.

J Jay · 22 Nov 2019, 22:00 (Ref:3942226)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

That said, there's a few actual documentaries about LM '55.

That was likely part of the motivation to eschew/alter some of the details. For instance, dramatic effect is likely the best explanation for the disagreement between Fitch & Neubauer; as far as I know, they agreed on withdrawing, but Neubauer had to wait for approval from the Mercedes board before doing so.

The only choice that I wasn't fond of was the sticks that represented bones, despite knowing what they were, it took a couple of seconds for it to register. Apart from that, the film did a great job at capturing the immediate aftermath of the accident.

I believe it has been shortlisted for the Best Animated Short Film Oscar by way of winning a prize on the film circuit. I doubt it will win, but I wish for the best.

chernaudi · 23 Nov 2019, 00:49 (Ref:3942246)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

That was likely part of the motivation to eschew/alter some of the details. For instance, dramatic effect is likely the best explanation for the disagreement between Fitch & Neubauer; as far as I know, they agreed on withdrawing, but Neubauer had to wait for approval from the Mercedes board before doing so.

The only choice that I wasn't fond of was the sticks that represented bones, despite knowing what they were, it took a couple of seconds for it to register. Apart from that, the film did a great job at capturing the immediate aftermath of the accident.

I believe it has been shortlisted for the Best Animated Short Film Oscar by way of winning a prize on the film circuit. I doubt it will win, but I wish for the best.

As I mentioned, if it brings awareness to history and such, I'm all for it. But there's already some straight up documentaries out there. This can maybe be compared to Ford vs Ferrari compared to an actual documentary about LM '66.

J Jay · 23 Nov 2019, 09:10 (Ref:3942283)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

As I mentioned, if it brings awareness to history and such, I'm all for it. But there's already some straight up documentaries out there. This can maybe be compared to Ford vs Ferrari compared to an actual documentary about LM '66.

I would agree with this. I think Rush would also be a good comparison (I've yet to see LM '66) for the creative liberties taken in the name of hemming to the atmosphere the director is aiming for.

"Based on true events" is probably the most correct way to label the manner the film treats its source material.

S griffin · 23 Nov 2019, 09:30 (Ref:3942288)

You're always going to get a bit of truth bending in these things, but it's nice that there are enough people to care about showing motorsport to a mass audience

Mike Bell · 23 Nov 2019, 11:25 (Ref:3942314)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

You're always going to get a bit of truth bending in these things, but it's nice that there are enough people to care about showing motorsport to a mass audience

Not sure that animation will be playing to a mass audience, but yes.

Being of an ‘enquiring mind’, I’m interested to know if the maker(s) of the animation are motorsport enthusiasts, or learned about the 1955 race from previously made documentaries.....

**Aysedasi** · 23 Nov 2019, 13:20 (Ref:3942329)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

No, I’m curious, not skeptical. Just seems a strange subject to make an
animated film about......

Exactly the same for me. Plus I wonder about the dialogue, how fictional is it?

CTD · 23 Nov 2019, 13:37 (Ref:3942334)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Exactly the same for me. Plus I wonder about the dialogue, how fictional is it?

Could be based on biographies from key people?
Like:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Speed-was-l.../dp/B0000CKKIE
However creative freedoms must have been taken.

**Aysedasi** · 23 Nov 2019, 18:52 (Ref:3942396)

possibly Mathias and yes, I think assumptions were made so that the film had the meaning intended. Again, I'm not criticising, but I still find myself asking why.....

CTD · 24 Nov 2019, 11:50 (Ref:3942533)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

possibly Mathias and yes, I think assumptions were made so that the film had the meaning intended. Again, I'm not criticising, but I still find myself asking why.....

I agree to your questioning, as specific wording in conversations can have a massive effect on how you perceive people. (Fitch "vs." Neubauer, also the portrait of Leo Beebe in Le Mans '66)

**Aysedasi** · 26 Nov 2019, 16:57 (Ref:3942991)

For sure. In 'LM66' Beebe comes across as the kind of guy you wouldn't want to extinguish with your bodily fluids if he was on fire however the truth of course is rather different.....

GT6 · 26 Nov 2019, 17:41 (Ref:3943009)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

For sure. In 'LM66' Beebe comes across as the kind of guy you wouldn't want to extinguish with your bodily fluids if he was on fire however the truth of course is rather different.....

Polite way of saying things Andrew, but as you said the film has to a little generous with the truth in order to make the public as well as the racing fans enjoy the film, but from what i hear from others i was not the only one to enjoy it.

MaskedRacer · 5 Dec 2019, 13:23 (Ref:3944960)

I don't think its very accurate.

1. Crash happened at 6 pm, animated film made it seem like it was at night
2. Did the Mercedes director really want to keep racing?
3. Film made it seem like he made this decision and change of mind to stop racing. I think it was the Mercedes corporate board that made the call in a impromptu meeting they had after the crash.

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