FIA GT Koenigsegg unveiling new ACO/FIA GT1 car...

pitviper · 4 Mar 2007, 21:28 (Ref:1858327)

the CCGT...

pit

HORNDAWG · 4 Mar 2007, 21:38 (Ref:1858353)

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Originally Posted by pitviper

the CCGT...

pit

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...t=91597&page=2

L.P.

AU N EGL · 4 Mar 2007, 22:08 (Ref:1858428)

any details on the power plant ? and production numbers ?

pitviper · 4 Mar 2007, 22:16 (Ref:1858452)

Type: Koenigsegg V8 cast aluminium, 4 valves per cylinder, double overhead camshafts.
Displacement: 5,000 cm3
Lubrication system: Dry sump with oil spray piston cooling.
Oil cooler.

The standard road car has a supercharged 4,700 cm3, but the superchargers have been remoned and the displacement enlarged for the race engine. With more development, it may end up growing even more...

pit

AU N EGL · 5 Mar 2007, 00:04 (Ref:1858549)

is a 5 liter going to be enough?? with the Ferrari, and AM at 6 liters and the Corvette at 7 liters

what are the potential HP and tq numbers ?

How many road going cars have they produced?

is this company going to fund a GT1 team or hopefully sell cars to a customer based team ??

I know I know lots of questions, But not all ideas actully make it to the grid and green flag.

Asa · 5 Mar 2007, 02:43 (Ref:1858586)

I think this car will be very expensive to buy and run...

Bullett · 5 Mar 2007, 02:54 (Ref:1858590)

The horsepower numbers are 600hp, no numbers on torque yet, but the weight is 1100kg, "Due to the fact the Koenigsegg CC cars are very light and stiff in road confi guration, the racing CCGT weighs in at just under an astounding 1,000 kg. This gives the possibility to place 100 kg of ballast freely within the car structure, still following the set rules. This should give Koenigsegg an interesting advantage over the competition"

I found the information out at http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...hp&carnum=3132

AU N EGL · 5 Mar 2007, 12:34 (Ref:1858878)

Good deal. Hopefully they will sell 25 road going cars, for a small manufacture to qualfy for FIA /ACO racing.

Rember there are minium weight all cars must have. something like 1190 kg min

and all compition cars are the same why. Underweight so balest can be added in the passanger compartment floor next to the tunnel for a lower CG.

Looking forward to a new car in the GT1 race seen.

All GT1 cars are very expesive, between $500,000 to $750,000 to build ONE car. and $3,000,000 to $5,000,000 to run a race campaign for a year.

The359 · 5 Mar 2007, 14:27 (Ref:1858956)

If the FIA/ACO see the CC8S, CCX, and CCR all as the homologated production versions then I'm fairly sure Koenigsegg has met the 25 minimum requirement.

Fogelhund · 5 Mar 2007, 19:12 (Ref:1859117)

In GT1, small manufacturers requirements is 12 road cars.

Minimum weight is 1125 kg now.

pederb · 5 Mar 2007, 21:25 (Ref:1859193)

They are using a suped up Ford Cobra engine in the street version so I assume that the 5.0L would be some kind of version of Ford 5.0 Cammer engine

AU N EGL · 5 Mar 2007, 21:51 (Ref:1859208)

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Originally Posted by pederb

They are using a suped up Ford Cobra engine in the street version so I assume that the 5.0L would be some kind of version of Ford 5.0 Cammer engine

That is not too good. Hopefully the would use the Ford engine the Saleen used to get the power needed.

Saleen S7R Engine
Ford based, all aluminum, 2-valve push rod, V8 (by Hutter)
Displacement: 7 liter
Horsepower: 600+hp @ 6100 rpm
Torque: 600ft.lb. @ 5400 rpm

pederb · 5 Mar 2007, 22:12 (Ref:1859224)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

That is not too good. Hopefully the would use the Ford engine the Saleen used to get the power needed.

Saleen S7R Engine
Ford based, all aluminum, 2-valve push rod, V8 (by Hutter)
Displacement: 7 liter
Horsepower: 600+hp @ 6100 rpm
Torque: 600ft.lb. @ 5400 rpm

I agree that it would a better choice, 5 liter might not be enough

ccharlie6 · 6 Mar 2007, 00:26 (Ref:1859308)

i believe koenigsegg use the same basic architecture as the ford engine but very little else, i think maybe the block is even more segg than ford, it is an extremely bespoke engine not a crate jobby, read this through Evo magazine and various other sources.

from Koenigsegg press release
Engine
Koenigsegg developed 5.0L V8 cast aluminium, 4 valves per cylinder, double overhead camshafts.
, normally aspirated, drysumped with roller throttles and individual intake trumpets. Nira engine control

and i'm guesssing its the same as the CCR engine http://www.koenigsegg.com/thecars/en...?engineering=2

F.O.F. · 6 Mar 2007, 01:43 (Ref:1859338)

ooh! the car looks fabulous.It would be great to see it in GT1.we'll just have to wait and see

JAG · 6 Mar 2007, 01:55 (Ref:1859342)

Unless the car has major backing, it will be another embarrassment like the Zonda.

AU N EGL · 6 Mar 2007, 02:18 (Ref:1859348)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Unless the car has major backing, it will be another embarrassment like the Zonda.

I agree. Hope it works out and the backing is found for a real team

Fogelhund · 6 Mar 2007, 02:19 (Ref:1859349)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Unless the car has major backing, it will be another embarrassment like the Zonda.

Do the Spykers have "major backing"? Or Pescarolo?

cmk · 6 Mar 2007, 03:24 (Ref:1859365)

I think if Koenigsegg are approaching this from a perspective of racing it themselves for good marketing, or providing factory support, they're more apt to succeed than the ill-fated Carsport Pagani debacle. That lacked all the support from the manufacturer and associated development necessary to lead to success.

Fogelhund, to be honest, makes a better point than I do!

broadrun96 · 6 Mar 2007, 04:49 (Ref:1859392)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccharlie6

i believe koenigsegg use the same basic architecture as the ford engine but very little else, i think maybe the block is even more segg than ford, it is an extremely bespoke engine not a crate jobby, read this through Evo magazine and various other sources.

from Koenigsegg press release
Engine
Koenigsegg developed 5.0L V8 cast aluminium, 4 valves per cylinder, double overhead camshafts.
, normally aspirated, drysumped with roller throttles and individual intake trumpets. Nira engine control

and i'm guesssing its the same as the CCR engine http://www.koenigsegg.com/thecars/en...?engineering=2

not sure which issue but believe they talked about it in an issue of evo or top gear where they said the Ford block was a basis but the engines were built from in-house designs and were significantly stronger and lighter then anything else they found, guessing more expensive as well.

Mike_Wooshy · 6 Mar 2007, 05:52 (Ref:1859524)

For starters isn't the ford block Iron ??

AU N EGL · 6 Mar 2007, 12:31 (Ref:1859767)

Yes the actuall Ford block is iron. The block the Saleen used is a Ford Design, but an alumium block.

Doc Hollywood · 6 Mar 2007, 13:21 (Ref:1859801)

Fantastic looking car. I really hope they make it work and get into GT1.

ss_collins · 6 Mar 2007, 14:37 (Ref:1859841)

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Do the Spykers have "major backing"? Or Pescarolo?

Spyker are in F1 so I'd suggest yes they do. Pesca - no and that proves the point that cunning engineers and a bit of luck goes a long way

pederb · 6 Mar 2007, 15:04 (Ref:1859853)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_Wooshy

For starters isn't the ford block Iron ??

4.6 & 5.4 are available in both iron and aluminum and the 5 L block are only available in aluminum.

Ford Racing Parts Catalogs 2007

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