F1 in London street? goodbye ...

concetta · 26 Jan 2006, 18:34 (Ref:1509593)

I'm furious ...

Link: http://www.stopandgo.tv/news.php?idtitolo=0992

**Adam43** · 26 Jan 2006, 18:41 (Ref:1509597)

It is not as if this was ever going to happen though. Although I'd love to see another street circuit.

Suze · 26 Jan 2006, 18:51 (Ref:1509603)

exactly....the demo sounded like it was fun but a full on race? i'm not surprised.

Alan Raine · 26 Jan 2006, 19:15 (Ref:1509615)

I would like it to happen, but don't think it ever will.

It's a pity that the Birmingham Street Race didn't last longer than it did

Sodemo · 26 Jan 2006, 19:36 (Ref:1509636)

I'm sorry, I dont speak Italian, what does the article say?

kipper · 26 Jan 2006, 19:45 (Ref:1509645)

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Originally Posted by The Monster

I'm sorry, I dont speak Italian, what does the article say?

I'm guessing that this may be roughly the same story (my Italian being a bit too shoddy to compare)
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns16172.html

I have to admit that I am not overly surprised that a London Grand Prix won't take place given the expense involved and the disruption that it would have caused would have made it unfeasible. Also, the fact that London has the Olympics and the new Wembley means that the city is not going to be short of international sporting attention.

Chris Roden · 27 Jan 2006, 08:54 (Ref:1509946)

Interesting article, does this mean 2007 Tour de France in London, 2008 Dakar stage round Regent's Park?

brands · 27 Jan 2006, 10:42 (Ref:1510018)

I was never going to happen, just a publicity stunt from Red Ken and Bernie joining in to trying and put pressure on the BRDC.

N I Tram · 27 Jan 2006, 12:14 (Ref:1510069)

Cycling through city streets makes much more sense - F1 cars are too fast to be constricted by streets designed for 70mph (if that) travel. Street races have had their day, only Monaco should remain now, and more needs to be done to support permenant racetracks which are used for day-in day-out racing of all kinds.

pirenzo · 28 Jan 2006, 13:04 (Ref:1510719)

London would have been OK actually, the streets are pretty wide in the centre. Trouble is, when they had the demo they only used a four metre wide strip of road in the middle, the rest of the road and pavement were taken up by people watching!

It would be totally unfeasible for there to be a race on those roads for other reasons though.

The superprix circuit in Birmingham could be put back together quite easily, but it wouldn't last long, as most of it is earmarked for development in the next couple of years. There was talk a year and a bit ago of a different layout being used for a May bank holiday race (for tin-tops etc) this year, but I doubt that's happening now

coldtyre · 28 Jan 2006, 14:07 (Ref:1510743)

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Originally Posted by N I Tram

Cycling through city streets makes much more sense - F1 cars are too fast to be constricted by streets designed for 70mph (if that) travel. Street races have had their day, only Monaco should remain now, and more needs to be done to support permenant racetracks which are used for day-in day-out racing of all kinds.

I disagree. Street circuits can be exciting (watch Macao), but not in an "american style" city (means: straight - 90° turn - ....)

However there's too many problems (closing streets for 3 days, safety work out) and not enough benefit.

The Las Vegas grand prix project would be very interesting to me, let us dream for a while : F1 cars by night on the strip...

Big-O · 28 Jan 2006, 14:37 (Ref:1510755)

Tour de France makes alot more sense then F-1 in the middle of London. Mutch easier to organize and takes far less time to build stand for audience. It takes a weak or so in Monaco(or more).

Looking forward too see the start in London.

BootsOntheSide · 28 Jan 2006, 14:39 (Ref:1510757)

I was enver really in favour of this idea, neither did I expect it to become reality. The economic costs of closing London streets for a whole weekend don't outweigh the benefit for a few hundred thousand motor racing fans, the event could never be as people-friendly as the one-off parade due to the lack of fan access and the need of the teams to work in private, and permenant courses do indeed need more support.

nickyf1 · 28 Jan 2006, 21:40 (Ref:1510935)

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Originally Posted by Big-O

Tour de France makes alot more sense then F-1 in the middle of London. Mutch easier to organize and takes far less time to build stand for audience. It takes a weak or so in Monaco(or more).

Looking forward too see the start in London.

But still The Tour De France in England, that doesnt make sense at all

Suze · 28 Jan 2006, 21:46 (Ref:1510936)

see here http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78574

also states Tour de France has a history of visiting neighbouring countries

Alwaysfirst · 28 Jan 2006, 22:13 (Ref:1510964)

I would be really pleased if the Birmingham Superprix did restart. It was a good circuit & I think it would suit F1 far better than Monaco. Plus I will be living in Birmingham from Spetember so a race on my doorstep would be very much appreciated!

Suze · 28 Jan 2006, 22:14 (Ref:1510965)

that's not going to happen either, i don't think....!

erm, maybe i'm being slow to understand, but WHY ON EARTH is an F1 race at BIRMINGHAM of all places better than Monaco??!!

Alwaysfirst · 28 Jan 2006, 22:28 (Ref:1510982)

I didn't say that it would be better than at Monaco, I just said that the track layout would probably suit F1 cars more than Monaco ie the roads are more than 2 feet wide.

Big-O · 28 Jan 2006, 22:30 (Ref:1510984)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

But still The Tour De France in England, that doesnt make sense at all

Well, they do bike through Germany, Spain, Belgium and Luxemburg. Why not then England.

http://www.letour.fr/2006/TDF/presen...carte_2006.jpg

Suze · 28 Jan 2006, 22:35 (Ref:1510988)

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Originally Posted by Alwaysfirst

I didn't say that it would be better than at Monaco, I just said that the track layout would probably suit F1 cars more than Monaco ie the roads are more than 2 feet wide.

i'm sure there's a few other places around the world too where the roads are wider....monaco is monaco. part of what makes it is the challenge and narrowness of track.

Alwaysfirst · 28 Jan 2006, 22:40 (Ref:1510990)

Like I said I have no problems with F1 using Monaco-I like the layout, but I also think that a properly organised race in Birmingham would also be very entertaining, possibly more so in overtaking terms as the streets are much wider (in places) eg. the Aston Expressway, only a couple of miles (if that) from the circuit location is about 7 lanes wide with no central reservation. Parts of that road would be great for racing, although that is going into dreamland!

kmsport · 29 Jan 2006, 00:04 (Ref:1511025)

we can always dream

F.O.F. · 29 Jan 2006, 14:21 (Ref:1511290)

well london's gone,bring on dublin

coldtyre · 30 Jan 2006, 08:01 (Ref:1511661)

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Originally Posted by F.O.F.

well london's gone,bring on dublin

Or Casablanca !

Rob29 · 30 Jan 2006, 08:21 (Ref:1511671)

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Originally Posted by F.O.F.

well london's gone,bring on dublin

Not much hope there. They could not even run Pheonix Park last year.Also a demo was planned a few years back simlar to the London one but they could not find any streets in good enough condition.

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