Testing to start soon??

Scott75 · 28 Jan 2003, 07:20 (Ref:488064)

You would think that now both Holden and Ford have signed off on the aero package that some of the teams will begin to test there new cars. ie HRT and SBR. They seem to be to the closest to having completing there new cars. Also going on what Paul Morris said, he should have his car completed in about a week, depends on whether the aero package will get there by then. What I can't understand is why Holden and Ford didn't build BA and VY racecars at the same time during last season and do the tests then, that way the aero package would have been signed off ages ago and we wouldn't be in this situation that we are in at the moment,ie there is going to be a shortage of aero packages available in time. Ford went and built it's proto-type, why didn't Holden do the same.

Ozenigma · 28 Jan 2003, 10:26 (Ref:488154)

Its called politics, my bet is the vy aero package changed somewhat when they say the rear wing of the ford.

pete55 · 28 Jan 2003, 10:44 (Ref:488173)

Well hasn't the Ford's rear wing been clipped already. What i'm wondering about is whether Holdens front undertray has been reduced to even out the balance at front of cars.

Scott75 · 28 Jan 2003, 11:03 (Ref:488180)

I am a Holden fan and I to wonder why the Holdens haven't had there front spoiler clipped, maybe we shall find out in Motorsport News tommorrow. They should make the exact details of the test to go public, that way nowone can complain(wishful thinking I know). Did Ford say how much they had to clip off the rear wing? Seeing both sides have signed off on it maybe the Holdens have had deductions and we don't know about them then yet.

moffman · 28 Jan 2003, 12:04 (Ref:488240)

Or maybe the general can do as they please as usual

Scott75 · 28 Jan 2003, 12:17 (Ref:488247)

Ford must be happy though as they have signed off on it.

daria · 28 Jan 2003, 22:21 (Ref:488732)

Or maybe they know its the best they will be allowed to get.

Onlooker · 28 Jan 2003, 22:23 (Ref:488735)

So happy they are still testing an alternative.Rumour has it that there is a gain to be made in the radiator ducting area that generates coast down downforce so that will no doubt be the area they concerntrate on to try to match Holdens better figures in that area.

rocket · 29 Jan 2003, 05:25 (Ref:489040)

the fords had 60mm taken from their wing in length, 30mm each side i to wonder what holden did to even out the front end

silvervsix · 29 Jan 2003, 06:26 (Ref:489064)

Most Qld ford based teams will be testing cars on the 18th of Feb at QR

Onlooker · 29 Jan 2003, 06:33 (Ref:489068)

Probally just stood the radiator up and fitted one with less fins to allow the air to flow through and "lift " the front of the car to give the impression of less down force.They should have sealed the radiator and noted it's position including all ducting and made it the final spec.If they boiled bad luck.
To loose 20kg of downforce with out changing a thing is very suspect in anyones book

Jono · 29 Jan 2003, 07:48 (Ref:489101)

Quote:

Originally posted by silvervsix
Most Qld ford based teams will be testing cars on the 18th of Feb at QR

Silversix - what's your source?? Is this true?? What teams will be testing???

Scott75 · 29 Jan 2003, 09:31 (Ref:489161)

Has anyone bought this weeks Motorsport News. It said that HRT were running again at Avalon Airport without permission from TEGA. You would think that they would have permission but they way things are I wouldn't put it past them. This Project Blueprint is becoming fasical. You would think with all the millions of $ spent they could get this right. This is truely is a Silly Silly Season.

racer69 · 29 Jan 2003, 14:10 (Ref:489435)

I'll say it again, all parity does is cause more problems and arguments.

Mattracer · 29 Jan 2003, 22:50 (Ref:489978)

Yes but were HRT/HRO actually running cars or doing something else like measuring track surface temps and wind patterns/cross winds so that next test, they have more data at start up time. Getting a handle on these variables and what to expect on any given day at Avalon could be what they were doing. Who knows at this stage.

silvervsix · 30 Jan 2003, 02:04 (Ref:490115)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jono
Silversix - what's your source?? Is this true?? What teams will be testing???

Got the info from a friend who went to the qld Xr meeting the other night that had about 10 v8 drivers, team owners etc there. SBR will be testing a least one BA (I think it will be Ambrose's car) don't know about other teams but would imagine that DJR will also have a BA.

sevi · 30 Jan 2003, 02:21 (Ref:490124)

Hey Jono could meet you out there.

GTV27 · 30 Jan 2003, 02:36 (Ref:490136)

Way to start a rumour

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott75*
Has anyone bought this weeks Motorsport News. It said that HRT were running an Avalon without permission from TEGA.

Jeez does Holden know about this?
What does Toyota say?
Did the control freak 'av a long drive?

{* quote edited by GTV27 for the sake of a giggle}

Crash Test · 30 Jan 2003, 06:11 (Ref:490209)

Sevi- I might make the hike out there if I can't be bothered working

The Tool Man · 30 Jan 2003, 10:55 (Ref:490384)

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott75
Has anyone bought this weeks Motorsport News. It said that HRT were running again at Avalon Airport without permission from TEGA. You would think that they would have permission but they way things are I wouldn't put it past them.

Are You trying to tell us that HRT / TWR Cheated?

NAH they wouldnt do that would they ?

They never have and never would

Next thing you'llbe trying to tell me the V8's are off to China in 04.

William Dale Jr · 30 Jan 2003, 11:00 (Ref:490394)

Quote:

Originally posted by The Tool Man
Next thing you'llbe trying to tell me the V8's are off to China in 04.

Good one Tool Man!

The Tool Man · 30 Jan 2003, 11:44 (Ref:490449)

Actually, WDJ it was a pretty lame and failed attempt at humor and sarcasm, may as well stick with my day Jobs.

The Tool Man · 31 Jan 2003, 04:01 (Ref:491359)

In all seriousness, if the allegations are provern to be correct. I hope they romano them by deducting 1800 points from all cars involved prior to the season , that will give the other 30 odd cars a chance to win the championship

pete55 · 31 Jan 2003, 08:25 (Ref:491474)

As i've said before i'm a Holden fan but i too want to see good racing. If this aero packages doesn t work this time i think you'll see a very rapid change in the package. AVESCO and CAMS could not afford to let it go on any longer or there will be no one watching them.

William Dale Jr · 31 Jan 2003, 08:31 (Ref:491480)

Quote:

Originally posted by The Tool Man
Actually, WDJ it was a pretty lame and failed attempt at humor and sarcasm, may as well stick with my day Jobs.

Oh well, I liked it anyway.

About HRT running at Avalon; I just don't see them doing something that they obviously shouldn't be doing without some sort of permission. They just have too much to lose by getting caught doing something illegal.

I don't care how good their PR department is, but out-and-out cheating is pretty hard to spin in a positive manner...

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