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Old 28 Mar 2004, 02:06 (Ref:921687)   #1
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Wacky Statistics! -Michael to break a Senna record in Bahrain???

This is a wacky statistic that im sure you've never heard mentioned. I know im just data mining, but being a statistician by trade, i really couldnt help myself. Anyway, for those who are interested, read on.......

Did you know that the last 6 times Michael Schumacher has been on pole he has gone on to win the race?? This has only ever been acomplished 3 times before, but nobody has ever done 7!!!!. Below are the races that have contributed to Michaels current run.

2003 San Marino
2003 Spain
2003 Austria
2003 Italy
2004 Australia
2004 Malaysia

Michael Schumacher had done this previously between 2000 and 2001.

2000 Italy
2000 USA
2000 Japan
2000 Malaysia
2001 Australia
2001 Malaysia.

The only other person to do this in F1 history is Ayrton Senna during the 1991 season

1991 USA
1991 Brazil
1991 San Marino
1991 Monaco
1991 Hungary
1991 Belgium

The next time Michael grabs pole, he will have the opportunity to be the sole owner of this record by winning the grand prix. Look out, you could see history in the making in 7 days time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 28 Mar 2004, 07:17 (Ref:921797)   #2
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Another whacky statistic...

Michael could smash another of Senna's record this sunday of winning the most number of Bahrain GP. The current record stands at zero, held by all ex drivers and Montoya/Alonso are seen as the biggest threat. Michael is hoping to add this record to his "only F1 driver to win the first Malaysian GP" as well as a similar record for the first USGP return

Haha, now that Michael had won almost all the main records, we really need to dive deep to look for more records to be broken huh?


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Old 28 Mar 2004, 07:34 (Ref:921801)   #3
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Another whacky statistic...

Michael could smash another of Senna's record this sunday of winning the most number of Bahrain GP.
Another little know and shameful Senna statistic is that he never even qualified for the Bahrain GP.
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 08:41 (Ref:921829)   #4
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Another record he can take in the near future (though errr not in Bahrain ) is to become the first driver to win 7 Formula 1 Grands Prix at the same circuit.

As of now MS has won 6 times at Magny-Cours, 6 times in Montreal and 6 times at Spa. Senna of course won Monte Carlo 6 times.
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 09:12 (Ref:921838)   #5
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Some very funny statistics there Gt_R!
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 09:17 (Ref:921841)   #6
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Very interesting stuff.

Does anyone know how many different racetracks Michael ahs won at, and what the record is for that?
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 09:51 (Ref:921867)   #7
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I'm sure he won on every circuit he's raced at. Austria was the last one where he didn't win...
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 10:26 (Ref:921905)   #8
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Pardon my ignorance but how many Monacos has MS won- 4 or 5?
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 10:27 (Ref:921906)   #9
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He won at every circuit on the 2003 schedule, but there are others (Kyalami in South Africa, certainly) where he never won. I suspect he does hold the record, but I'd be interested to know for sure.
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 11:03 (Ref:921937)   #10
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Oops, right, I forgot the old ones...

PS: Michael Schumacher won 5 GP's of Monaco.
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 11:18 (Ref:921956)   #11
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Michael Schumacher's wins by circuit:

6 wins - Magny-Cours, Spa-Francorchamps, Montreal

5 wins - Imola, Barcelona, Monte Carlo, Suzuka

4 wins - Melbourne, Interlagos, Monza

3 wins - Sepang, Hungaroring, Nurburgring

2 wins - Aida, Silverstone, Hockenheim, A1-Ring, Inaianapolis

1 win - Estoril (1993), Jerez (1994), Buenos Aires (1998)

= 72

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That's interesting. Look at the circuits which he had won the most times... Monte Carlo, Suzuka, Spa...some of the most challenging races on modern F1 calendar.
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 11:47 (Ref:921981)   #13
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Is Schumacher only driver who has won on the all tracks on the season schedule. At least of those having that much races (say 16 or more)

Prost, for example, never won at Hungaroring. Senna didn't have wins in France.
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Old 28 Mar 2004, 19:48 (Ref:922287)   #14
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Let say that he had the best car on the grid most of the time.
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 01:25 (Ref:922423)   #15
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yeah right. It pales into comparison with Senna and Montoya
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But even if MS wins in Bahrain (Bah! rain?) Senna's record still holds as the only one with 6 straight pole-win in the same season...

How many second grid positions converted in race's second positions has Rubens? There must surely have a record somehow
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How many second grid positions converted in race's second positions has Rubens? There must surely have a record somehow
Actually Rubens has only six:
2001 Malaysia
2001 Italy
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Another whacky statistic...

Michael could smash another of Senna's record this sunday of winning the most number of Bahrain GP.
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But Senna still is undefeated on that track, a tough record to beat; at least 19 drivers this year will even fail tying it.
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Re: Wacky Statistics! -Michael to break a Senna record in Bahrain???

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The next time Michael grabs pole, he will have the opportunity to be the sole owner of this record by winning the grand prix. Look out, you could see history in the making in 7 days time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wooooo (how do you do sarcasm?)

another TGF record, just what the sport needs.
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 11:11 (Ref:922689)   #21
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So Michael's won at 21 different tracks - I doubt anyone else can come close to that. It's amazing that he's only won 5 races in Germany, out of 18 (off the top of my head)
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with regards the pole positions-win things.

When Michael did the 6 wins-from-pole CONSECUTIVELY from 200/01 bit, that was an outright record by one race I think?

Doesn't really matter much, of course, just out of interest.
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Just for the record, I've heard somewhere... but it's a fact:

Every driver that won the first 2 GPs has been the champion of the season.

Uh, oh... here we again.
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