Official Austrian Grand Prix 2015 - Weekend Thread

**Born Racer** · 18 Jun 2015, 21:53 (Ref:3552010)

We arrive in Austria for the second year in a row at the latest incarnation of what was the old Oesterreichring. It was a beautiful setting surrounding the track last year, reminding me of the European races of the 80s, but how do you think it stacks up to the original circuit?

It looks like both Alonso and possibly Ricciardo will be getting engine penalties this weekend.

The tyre selection is soft and supersoft. If it's warm, it's thought to likely be a two-stop race with a one-stopper favoured in cooler conditions.

At the moment, there is a high chance of rain on Saturday and the chance of some afternoon showers on Sunday.

There will be two DRS zones, the first of whose detection point is on the run down to Turn 2 with an activation point a little after this corner; the second DRS Zone has a detection point just after Turn 8, with its activation point just after Turn 9, which is the start of the start-finish straight.

Remember Felipe Massa's surprise pole last year?

mikuni · 19 Jun 2015, 07:46 (Ref:3552074)

Thanks for starting the thread. A very slow week for F1, I guess people are recovering from Le Mans.

Looking forward to getting back to Austria after a great return last year. It is a lovely track, and while it probably isn't as good as the original, it is a still a great track taking into account modern safety requirements.

I'm just hoping for a bit of action at the top, probably Ferrari doing well in the heat as they have earlier this season. I'd also like to see McLaren get back to their improvement curve, rather than the terrible dip in performance we saw at Canada.

Free practice 1 starts shortly.

stripedcat · 19 Jun 2015, 11:35 (Ref:3552124)

One of the things that is new for this weekend, is that Force India has the new upgraded Mercedes engine - which the Mercedes team had a few races ago. It looks like it has helped their performance a bit at Austria. I assume the other Mercedes' engined cars have it as well?

djinvicta · 19 Jun 2015, 14:41 (Ref:3552175)

So Kimi and Seb seem to have great pace with the Mercs during Practise.
Everyone is using every inch of track (and much more!), Turns 1, 8 and 9.
Should be an interesting race, I reckon the McClaren's will get lapped at least 5 times..ouch..

**Adam43** · 19 Jun 2015, 19:38 (Ref:3552239)

What a great place to have a Grand Prix

**BertMk2** · 19 Jun 2015, 19:52 (Ref:3552246)

Quote:

Originally Posted by djinvicta

Should be an interesting race, I reckon the McClaren's will get lapped at least 5 times..ouch..

That's an optimistic view - I don't think they'll last long enough to get lapped that many times. On todays performance if they make it to the first stops it'll be a miracle.

Up at the front it's looking a bit more interesting - Ferrari are close to the Mercs, Lotus are looking racy and there's pace in the Williams. Should be a good one.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 19 Jun 2015, 19:57 (Ref:3552247)

It wasn't too bad a race last year, and the venue's always had a very nice setting. There was an all Williams front row and Lewis messed up on qualifying, starting 9th but I doubt we'll see anything quite like that. Though having said that, Vettel was looking very good in P2.

m355y · 19 Jun 2015, 20:26 (Ref:3552255)

I properly love this circuit, it got all kinds of stick back in 1997 but suddenly almost two decades on it almost seems like a classic.

JeremySmith · 19 Jun 2015, 22:09 (Ref:3552275)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

What a great place to have a Grand Prix

I agree it's a fantastic little circuit, the surrounding countryside is gorgeous...

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 19 Jun 2015, 22:16 (Ref:3552276)

It's a ridiculously simple looking circuit, that had it not been built into a hillside or uses part of one of the "old school" circuits, it would never be looked at as an F1 hosting circuit.

And yes the helicopter shots are amazing, as are some of the ground camera views

Armco Bender · 19 Jun 2015, 23:24 (Ref:3552288)

1975 Austrian GP was one of the most memorable ever....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlJD6jW-jMY

wnut · 20 Jun 2015, 02:02 (Ref:3552309)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armco Bender

1975 Austrian GP was one of the most memorable ever....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlJD6jW-jMY

Mainly because we lost Mark Donohue, very upsetting!

chillibowl · 20 Jun 2015, 12:40 (Ref:3552403)

Button and Alonso have each received as 25 place gird penalty. while the penalty may be deserving and practical but surely a penalty for more spots then there are cars in the race is just plain silly.

the bubble of silence that the Honda bosses are sitting in might be even sillier though.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 20 Jun 2015, 13:08 (Ref:3552414)

A little drama at the end. Hamilton on provisional pole goes off the track, where he went off last year and in sympathy, Rosberg as he's rounding the last corner and just about to complete his final flying lap, also goes off. Strange.

Big disappointment for Kimi and Button in Q1.

canamman · 20 Jun 2015, 13:15 (Ref:3552415)

That was an interesting last lap in Q3.
Could this be the weekend to get a 17 yr old on the podium?
Rain can change a lot of best laid plans.

chillibowl · 20 Jun 2015, 13:15 (Ref:3552416)

Q1 was nice as times dropped considerably as the track dried. Laurel and Hardy at the end provided a good laugh.

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 20 Jun 2015, 18:30 (Ref:3552493)

Well, that was a funny and bizarre ending to Q3. Nice run by Hulkenberg to split the Williams to get 5th, but as confidence boosters go, Le Mans is surely up there!!!

With the Merc drivers this error prone, a sprinkling of rain is on order!!!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 21 Jun 2015, 12:07 (Ref:3552690)

That was initially a clean start, with Rosberg getting the jump on Hamilton but there's been a big coming together with Alonso and Raikonnen. First caution of the day.

canamman · 21 Jun 2015, 12:56 (Ref:3552699)

Right in front of the tv camera! On high def tv that looked like
that wreck came in our house. Pretty good racing mid pack.
Vettle Right rear mistake in the box. Should be a good Massa
Vettle fight for the 3rd step on the podium. Cmon rain.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 21 Jun 2015, 13:31 (Ref:3552706)

Lap 69, with 71 laps to go, can Vettel get Massa?

AoB Special Stage · 21 Jun 2015, 13:34 (Ref:3552707)

Car #6 definitely had his DRS open. A penalty ought to be applied.

canamman · 21 Jun 2015, 13:42 (Ref:3552708)

Way to go WILLIAMS !!!!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 21 Jun 2015, 13:45 (Ref:3552709)

Vettel couldn't get Massa in the end but congrats to Nico on back to back Austrian GP wins and congrats to Massa on his first podium of the season.

Did Berger just use the S word?

mikestow · 21 Jun 2015, 15:16 (Ref:3552727)

Absolute waste of my Sky F1 subscription!A few good moves again from the Kids!The fight for 3rd at the end was worth watching,but the rest was normal paint drying.The penalties for various engine renewals over and above the ridiculous limits for the power train and gizmos attached,make the races just a matter of luck rather than 100% race drivers skill!!?I will give Silverstone a go,but will claim my £10 a month back after that.The dismal performance of the Honda Engine adds to viewer frustration.
I see they have Closed the Voting for this race before any can mark it,but mine would be a poor 3,so could do much better and a "Sword of Damocles" over it if Silverstone no better than a 7 or 8.!!I rest my case

**Adam43** · 21 Jun 2015, 18:22 (Ref:3552767)

I can't believe they did that.

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