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Not sure where best to put this, but I GUESS we can call it a "rumor" until it's actually built.
Panoz's secret project unveiled, and it's definitely out of left field: http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/p...-56-contender/ I'm looking forward to seeing if they can make it work - In Formula E discussions people keep telling me it's impossible to make a racecar that can have it's batteries swapped out easily during a pitstop AND provide enough power to have decent speed and range. Hopefully this comes to fruition and proves the matter one way or another. |
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Not a looker for sure....
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I can only say good luck to them, anybody who tries a bit of innovation in motorsport is a good one in my books
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I agree, I hope this makes it to the track! I wonder what it would be like for the driver to have all that weight on one side? The effort required to turn that to the left could be tough.
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I echo these thoughts. Wish them well, like someone thinking outside the box, but the future of electric cars is touchy with me. For them to be viable, they need to be powered by renewable energy, not fossil fuels, because you rob me of hearing the burning of dead dinosaurs otherwise.
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Has a weight for the battery pack been announced. There was an overall vehicle weight, but I don't remember weight for the battery pack, which will have to be handled somehow during pit stops.
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Front end looks like a cross between a DP and a Chevron B16...
Assuming this runs in '18 it amuses me that Panoz would beat Formula E to changeable batteries. I wonder how much of the battery technology is likely to be new/cutting edge? |
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That could hopefully be the new technology development - smaller and lighter battery packs which are giving more power and lasting longer... I think I could be wishing too much there at the moment!
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I don't think pack will be getting changed on pit road, at least in America. The concrete wall that most tracks mean you'd have to wheel the batteries around, and you'd be extremely restricted on space. It'd be easier just to put the car behind the wall, do a quick change and back out. Since this isn't competing in a proper class, it doesn't matter - it just needs to be a good proof of concept. For Le Mans it's possible, but it looks extremely difficult to do in the US. Good luck to them making this concept work. At least it's actually trying to progress technology, which is very nice! |
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This is a unique deal as Formula E you have to change cars. Now, we have a large scale RC car! |
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They have a huge advantage over the Formula E cars in terms of packaging. More room to place the batteries and connections than an open wheel, ergo the offset driving position. I really wanted to see Formula E develop a pit lane gantry system, car pulls up, then is lifted off of battery system. Old rolled out, new rolled in and car returned to the ground, possibly even with electric jacks in the battery pack like the air jacks in cars now. Yes I know, crazy and goofy but would be fun to see and would keep the batteries low in the car. |
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I know it's just a model, but there seems no attempt at all to make it look 'cool' or 'futuristic'. It looks like an old can-am car with a bubble for the driver and drawn on head-lights ala Gen-1 Daytona Prototypes
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I like that. That's the problem with electric cars. They feel the need to make them look weird and odd and futuristic. That's a good reason why electric cars struggled to gain traction in the real world - the cars look funky in photoshops, but look utterly stupid driving around the streets of Manchester or Edinburgh. That's why Teslas do sell - it's a road car, that just happens to be electric powered.
This Panoz looks very purposeful. They could make it look like a hot wheels toy like Formula E, but there's no need. This car is to get a job done. I like that. Hopefully it will get it done...Panoz never fills me with confidence. |
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How to make things slippery has been known for many many decades. That's what is needed here. Making things look futuristic may not help. Function is more important.
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It is almost like it on purpose has this 60s concept car look. That ugly green color and the shape of the headlights.
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The ugly green color that happens to be a common color, or pretty close, to most other EV concepts? Hmmm, green and an electric green color for an electric green vehicle. Yup, that's a hard connection.
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Lime green or something like that. Look at the real life photos, this is much darker.
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Well, it's a Panoz, so it's weird.
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I admire any effort to advance the way that cars race.I do have reservations about this concept as using a pallet truck to remove and replace a battery pack is little more than a way to overcome the inherent shortcomings of present day technology.Do we know where the design was developed?
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