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Motegi Race Thread *** SPOILERS!!! ***
Seeing as no one else has posted one despite the race being over, I might as well do it myself.
Also, I think it would be a good idea to implement an unwritten rule that no race spoilers whatsoever are to be posted in thread titles. As I said in this thread, it's commonplace on other forums and it isn't brain surgery. Do NOT scroll down if you don't want to learn the results of the race. Anyhow, with that out of the way, congrats to Dan Wheldon on picking up his first career victory! Race story off the IndyCar website; Quote:
Full Race Results; Pos Driver Name Car# Car Name C E T Start Qual Speed Laps Xs Led Laps Led Status Earnings Pts 1 Dan Wheldon 26 Klein Tools/ Jim Beam D H F 1 205.762 200 3 192 Running $120,720 53 2 Tony Kanaan 11 Team 7-Eleven D H F 3 205.690 200 0 0 Running $99,440 40 3 Helio Castroneves 3 Marlboro Team Penske D T F 15 203.281 200 1 4 Running $78,020 35 4 Darren Manning 10 Target Chip Ganassi Racing G T F 10 204.345 200 1 2 Running $62,340 32 5 Scott Dixon 1 Target Chip Ganassi Racing G T F 6 204.985 200 0 0 Running $56,420 30 6 Buddy Rice 15 Pioneer/ Argent Mortgage G H F 5 205.408 200 0 0 Running $49,220 28 7 Dario Franchitti 27 Alpine D H F 9 204.395 199 0 0 Running $53,280 26 8 Kosuke Matsuura 55 Panasonic ARTA G H F 4 205.629 199 0 0 Running $51,920 24 9 Scott Sharp 8 Delphi D T F 12 203.867 199 1 2 Running $46,420 22 10 Tora Takagi 12 Pioneer Mo Nunn Racing D T F 22 195.054 199 0 0 Running $50,400 20 11 Roger Yasukawa 16 Sammy G H F 13 203.863 198 0 0 Running $43,380 19 12 Alex Barron 51 Red Bull Cheever Racing D C F 22 199.835 196 0 0 Running $42,020 18 13 Tomas Scheckter 4 Pennzoil Panther D C F 16 202.952 184 0 0 Running $46,240 17 14 Bryan Herta 7 XM Satellite Radio D H F 11 204.015 183 0 0 Radiator $44,560 16 15 A.J. Foyt IV 14 Conseco/ A.J. Foyt Racing D T F 17 202.055 169 0 0 Running $37,700 15 16 Mark Taylor 2 Menards/ Johns Manville Racing D C F 14 203.787 167 0 0 Accident $36,340 14 17 Vitor Meira 17 Rahal-Letterman BEA Systems G H F 8 204.631 166 0 0 Clutch $34,820 13 18 Adrian Fernandez 5 Quaker State Telmex Tecate G H F 18 201.649 153 0 0 Engine $34,820 12 19 Sam Hornish Jr. 6 Marlboro Team Penske D T F 7 204.890 87 0 0 Accident $33,380 12 20 Greg Ray 13 Renovac G H F 2 205.722 55 0 0 Suspension $37,520 12 21 Robbie Buhl 24 Team Purex/ Dreyer & Reinbold D C F 21 195.358 38 0 0 Handling $32,020 12 22 Ed Carpenter 52 Red Bull Cheever Racing D C F 20 195.454 38 0 0 Mechanical $32,020 12 Next up - the Indianapolis 500... Last edited by rustyfan; 17 Apr 2004 at 09:13. |
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Some side-notes;
* Chevrolet had a rough day * Great to see that there were a lot less accidents than last year - I haven't found any information on them yet, but since neither Sam Hornish Jr. nor Mark Taylor are mentioned in the different race stories online, I'm assuming they walked away unhurt (which is great) * Kudos to Matsuuda for a good showing - this guy could very well be better at this roundy-round thing than I initially thought * Great job by the Ganassi team mates, for various reasons... Manning after having had a slightly shakey start to the season and Dixon for overcoming that hairline fracture to the ankle Can't wait to see the 15 minutes of race coverage I'll get on (*******') Tuesday [Edit] Finally found the trackside report from the race, available here. Notes about the two crashes; Quote:
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Dan was the man today for sure , 10 minutes before the start of the race I was called out urgenly so had to stick a tape in and have just finished watching it.
fairly ordinary race because Wheldon basically ran away with it but sure was a fantastic effort by him. Kanaan is showing his consistency w3hich will count for big things for him later in the year and good stratergy by Penske to get helio up there. I dunno what telecast other countries get but here in Australia we get coverage through ESPN International and it is quite simply the worst commentary I have ever heard in my entire life. Larry Rice calls the race with some other guy (I dunno who he is) and they simply dont know what they are talking about at all. For the entire race they claimed that it was Vitor miera who collided with Sam hornish when in fact it was Matsuura , it got me so damm angry I almost turned it off. so for Indy im going to watch it with no sound at all because the pictures were still pretty good. I was pretty dissapointed for greg ray after his excellent qualifying it all went pair shaped for him after contact with Miera (and it was actually Miera this time ) But my impressions are that just about all the big players are up front or pretty close to it which is gonna make Indy sensational. |
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Rustyfan you didnt actually see the race then ?
If you didnt I can tell you that both Hornish and taylor are perfectly OK and both walked away from what was really minor contact , Sam's was a bit harder than Mark's but considering last years crashes they were very minor. |
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17 Apr 2004, 09:42 (Ref:942414) | #5 | ||
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Great stuff from Dan there, nice to see him taking the win. Is he now a serious championship challenger?
Once again Penske showed their class on raceday, whereas a lot of the guys who qualified unexpectedly well seemed ot fall back. It's a shame Greg's car gave up though. Good that there were only 2 crashes, and no one was hurt. Long may it continue. |
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Well, the race was over at 2AM here, so I was in no shape to post until now, although its only 8AM, I may still not be in shape! But here goes!
Good race, pretty clean to. Great job by Dan Wheldon! Not only for being the first British IRL winner,(I was surprised to hear that!) but also taking the win for Honda on their home track. Good job by Helio, for somehow getting to third,(and giving me 5 points in the fantasy game!) after a dismal first half. Tough break for Greg Rays understaffed, and underbudgeted team. He'll be back though. Also, Fernandez, Buhl, and Carpenter were never really in it at all. Will AJ ever get it together? Is Mark Taylor in over his head? This is not the first time Matsurra has put somebody into the wall(Hornish). He's going to get some reputation! Kudos to ESPN2! A full 2 1/2 hrs of coverage, with a pre race and a post race! Whoa!(sorry rusty...) All-in-all, a pretty good night! |
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The Japanese crowd went bonkers after the race. There were quite a few honda fan in attendence. Mark Taylor had a good run going but put it into the wall at the end. Two crashes in a row for Hornish. But this one was not his fault. Darren Manning had a good run. The IRL usually doesn't produce such dominating performances as Wheldons. Poll position, most laps lead and victory. Very impressive.
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WELL DONE DAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Just couln't touch him this race. Fantastic |
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Go Dan! (and Darren and Mark!)... Anyone for a Brit 1,2,3 at Indy???
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Actually, chris42, it might be an AGR 1,2,3@ Indy.
Man, that team looks VERY strong going into May....Mikey might just win (albeit, as a car owner...but a win by any other name smells just as sweet ) Chevy needs to really get their act together. So does Panther (dang the rotten luck for Tomas and Mark! ) I just came from Track Forum. People are just whining, b****ing, complaining about the race and the IRL. Geez, if these people don't like, then don't watch it and shut the heck up, IMO! It's nice to come here and see some positive comments. I don't know how I did it, but I managed to stay up and watch the whole race (and like GP said, the broadcast wasn't over until 2 AM, EDT! ). I'm glad I did but "nap time" is coming up for me soon. Last edited by MLM; 17 Apr 2004 at 16:29. |
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Well this by far the better forum Actully, I honestly have yet to find a better place to talk about IndyCars than this place. Which is very lucky, as I happen to be a member of staff
I think Penske should still be kept an eye on. Not sure where they've been te last couple of races, but they must never be discounted at the Brickyard. |
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I think Taylor proved he can run with the leaders and quite well , so far this year i hadnt been impressed but Motegi changed my mind on him , I think he did a very good job.
just a bit of bad luck caught him out when takagi passed him and it by no means Takagi's fault it was simply wrong place wrong time for taylor. I do hope he gets a result soon though. |
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It wasn't the ebst race you'll ever see, and the three excellent bike race sover the weekend really put it in the shade, but I've seen worse. I'm happy that Dan got the win, and AGR's early seaosn form is very promising - hopefully they and Honda can keep it up.
Matsuura's mistakes so fa have been worrying. Being fast on ovals is one thing (he clearly is) but poor racecraft like that just makes you a danger. He's similar to Tomas Scheckter in his rookie days - maybe he can improve as much. |
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At least Tomas performed way better from the very beginning.
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I'd say qualifying fourth in your third race, with all the pressure of racing at home, represents a competitive effort, especially as he has no team-mate as such, and the field is much stronger now.
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