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Old 8 May 2009, 22:48 (Ref:2458301)   #1
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I did a total-up back in 2000 that had 68 NASCARS in Australia. I know that my old Pontiac went to god (crashed in a TV commercial). I still have Walter Gilles' Lumina so thats one!

I was asked the other day where they all went. Any ideas?
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Old 8 May 2009, 23:04 (Ref:2458307)   #2
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Our one ended up at drag tag.

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Old 8 May 2009, 23:31 (Ref:2458314)   #3
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This was my list from 19 December 1999.

Whyhoon 2 T’Birds,
K.Jane 2 1 X Monte, 1 Pontiac
R Jane 1 Monte
Williams 1 Monte
James 2 Monte, Olds
Elliot 2 Monte, Pontiac
Byers 3 2 Monte, 1 Pontiac
Cook 2 T’Birds
Brewer 3 2 X Monte, Lumina
Penzoil 1 Pontiac
Middleton 2 Monte
Peacock 2 T’Birds
Wanless 2 Taurus, T’Bird
Ellis 1 Lumina
Coon 1 Pontiac
Harrison 1 Pontiac
Roaker 2 Calibra, Olds
Woodlands 1 Pontiac
Robinson 1 Pontiac
Gunther 1 Pontiac
X Sawyer 1 Pontiac (at Calder)
Smith 1 Lumina
Stocker 2 Olds
Stepanic 2 Olds, Pontiac
Laws Bros 1 Pontiac
Tinworth 1 Pontiac
Scarcela? 1 Pontiac
Nolan 2 Lumina, T’Bird
Burrows 1 T’Bird
White 1 Monte
Thomas 3? Monte
Abelnica 2 Monte, Olds
Faulkner 2 Monte, Olds
Harman 1 Commodore
X Howlett 1 Commodore
X Cossen 1 Commodore
(Wangaratta) 1 Lumina?
Blake 1 Monte
Pay 1 Pontiac
Kenniwell 1 Pontiac
Oliver 2 Lumina
Best 1 Older Monte
Calvert 1 Older Monte
Roark 1 Pontiac
Small 1 Pontiac
Schubert 1 Monte
Sala 2 Olds, Pontiac
? Grose 1
? Galvin 1
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Old 8 May 2009, 23:41 (Ref:2458316)   #4
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Our one ended up at drag tag.

http://www.tagsystems.com.au/index.html
Which was your one?
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Old 9 May 2009, 04:03 (Ref:2458376)   #5
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We were never able to work out who's it was. All i know is that it was a ford.

Heres a picture.


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Old 9 May 2009, 04:14 (Ref:2458377)   #6
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I did a total-up back in 2000 that had 68 NASCARS in Australia. I know that my old Pontiac went to god (crashed in a TV commercial). I still have Walter Gilles' Lumina so thats one!

I was asked the other day where they all went. Any ideas?
Got a link to that commercial?
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I heard some of them came back to the USA.

The HSR has a vintage nascar series going and the 1990's cars have been popular for this road course based series.
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Got a link to that commercial?
I have a DVD somewhere. I will have to find it. I think it was for the Canadian market.
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Old 9 May 2009, 07:21 (Ref:2458403)   #9
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Does Brewer/Fastrack still have the Commodore (rebodied Lumina)?

Rusty French had a couple as well (didn't he import a few early '00 built cars when the PowerTour was running, but the series fell over before they raced)
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Old 9 May 2009, 07:24 (Ref:2458405)   #10
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We were never able to work out who's it was. All i know is that it was a ford.

Heres a picture.



I think thats Dick Howe's (ex Terry Wyhoon)

I will do some chasing up to update the 1999 list.

The Wanless Taurus went to Peacock in WA then back to the West Coast. I know one of the Tinworth Pontiac's was an ex Kyle Petty car that had a "Daytona Pole" and one of the early Charlie O'Brien Hagan Oldsmobiles was a Labonte car!

My Walter Giles Lumina was the first "all Australian" Nascar in that it was built by Walter here, including the floor pan, with only the Lumina body panels being US sourced.

Matt Lagoon has a few cars and Fastrack have several including an ex-Faulkner Olds that is now mostly Monte Carlo.

Rusty French also bought two Monte Carlo's into Australia around 2000.

When you think about it, NASCAR in Australia lasted 12 years, thats as long as Group C and with over 70 cars here, that is probably more than there were Group C cars

If anyone knows a current owner of a NASCAR, let them know they are not forgotten. We should get a Register going.

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Old 9 May 2009, 07:33 (Ref:2458408)   #11
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Does Brewer/Fastrack still have the Commodore (rebodied Lumina)?

Rusty French had a couple as well (didn't he import a few early '00 built cars when the PowerTour was running, but the series fell over before they raced)
Fastrack have two VT Commodores. One has a fiberglass body that sits on Jim Richards ex-Midgley Lumina Chassis. I don't know which chassis the steel body VT sits on. Marshall does have what would be the last NASCAR built here, a beautiful (VX) Monaro, again, I dont know what chassis that was originally.

My usual mount at Fastrack was an ex Tropic Coast (Thomas) Lumina. Fastrack also had one of the Gene Cook T'Birds.
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I heard some of them came back to the USA.

The HSR has a vintage nascar series going and the 1990's cars have been popular for this road course based series.
Mountainstar, do you know if there is anyone in the US that still has panels for the older NASCARS? Buick, Olds, Lumina, Pontiac...
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I think the Fastrack ex Faulkner Cutlass (Oldsmacarlo) is the chassis that now sits under the VX Monaro.
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Old 9 May 2009, 07:41 (Ref:2458411)   #14
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The Thunderdome may be "dead" but these cars should not be forgotten.
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Old 9 May 2009, 07:55 (Ref:2458419)   #15
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Agree completely, its a pity its not remembered more fondly, it provided entertaining motorsport for 12 seasons & allowed many people a chance to get into the sport. (and arguably half-saved Brad Jones' career)

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The Wanless Taurus went to Peacock in WA then back to the West Coast. I know one of the Tinworth Pontiac's was an ex Kyle Petty car that had a "Daytona Pole" and one of the early Charlie O'Brien Hagan Oldsmobiles was a Labonte car!
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That would make the Tinworth car the "Mello Tello" '93 Daytona polesitter.

O'Brien took over the car Labonte "Sunoco" Oldsmobile that won the rain shortened 1990 XMAS 500.
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I saw the 02 car in a farm back yard at Toolern Vale about 18 months ago but it wasn't there next time I went past a couple of months later.
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I saw the 02 car in a farm back yard at Toolern Vale about 18 months ago but it wasn't there next time I went past a couple of months later.
Which/what 02?
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Camaroz, (Is That With a capital 'Z').....The, I'm Nearly 'Famous' Ken James,Red-White-n-Blue,(do you want a 'Free' model car) what ever (they all look like Toyota Havolongs!!) is now residing in Switzland and racing in at the 'Ring' and other European venues,quite a 'spectacle' I'm led to believe....and very 'noisey'....regards427
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When you think about it, NASCAR in Australia lasted 12 years, thats as long as Group C and with over 70 cars here, that is probably more than there were Group C cars
Surely you jest, there must have been well over 200 Group C cars raced from '73 to 84.
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Mountainstar, do you know if there is anyone in the US that still has panels for the older NASCARS? Buick, Olds, Lumina, Pontiac...
From what I know it would not be the teams as they either throw excess away or sell it for pennies on the dollar.

This guy is the main guru for the restoration of older nascars so he might be of help:
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Surely you jest, there must have been well over 200 Group C cars raced from '73 to 84.
Sorry chavez, it was a "clouded comment". I didn't even take into account all of the "Class" cars!
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Which/what 02?
I cant remeber what happened yesterday let alone a race car from over 10 years ago.
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Things have been cruising along.

We need to contact the current owners of these cars.

This will not be the rebirth of NASCAR in Australia but a legitimate getting together of "Historic Stock Cars in Australia". The emphasis will be on restoration.

Wouldn't hurt to look here...

www.hscrs.com

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Things have been cruising along.

We need to contact the current owners of these cars.

This will not be the rebirth of NASCAR in Australia but a legitimate getting together of "Historic Stock Cars in Australia". The emphasis will be on restoration.

Wouldn't hurt to look here...

www.hscrs.com

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I think there are a few of these series here in the USA now and they seem to be doing well enough.

Also the availability of recent cars before the COT came about will help bolster the ranks. Apparently some rollers/chassis were available for around $12000.
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The ex Wyhoon car is kinda for sale
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