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Minardi confirm Cosworth for 2003
LONDON, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Minardi will use Cosworth engines next season, the Formula One team's principal Paul Stoddart said on Monday.
"The engine will give us a significant increase in horsepower over the engine that we had this year and also a nice reduction in weight," the Australian said at the annual Autosport awards ceremony in London. "Simply put, it gives Minardi the most competitive engine it has had in its 19 year history." Stoddart said the contract with the Ford-owned engine maker had been agreed and was for one year. Cosworth will also supply Ford-owned Jaguar and Jordan in 2003. Minardi, ninth overall in 2002 thanks to two points scored by Australian Mark Webber, had a free supply of Asiatech engines last season but that company has since closed down |
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Well, I pretty sure that Jos was a done deal once the engine was confirmed, so this should be announced shortly.
A Wilson/Verstappen line up would be great for Minardi, and the 2 drives concerned. |
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I've read every press release I can find and they are all the same. The one thing that is missing though is:
What spec is the engine? I would assume it's an earlier spec, but does anyone have a confirmation? |
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Ive heard various commentators say that Minardi would get the 2001-spec (Jordan 2002-spec, Jag gets best). But that was months before the deal was actually finalised so thats not a fact. But it does make sense, Ford can gimp those 2 and thus boost Jag by forcing them to a lower spec.
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They wouldn't want a Minardi to qualify ahead of the Jaguar now, would they?
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Had they both retained there 2002 line-ups, that's what would have happened.
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So we could expect the 6 last cars in the grid having cosworth engines ??? |
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I heard they would start with the same spec as Jordan, but the Jordan engine is being developed, and Minardi may not get those developments. That last bit is my speculation.
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All of the Cosworth teams are the ones most likely not to be around by 2003...
There's an interview in this week's Autosport with Niki Lauda - "You know what Webber said? I asked him, 'Which car would you prefer to drive?' And he said, 'Apart from the engine, definitely the Minardi.' Which gave me a little shock!" |
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Perhaps it's down to the fact that Minardi actually have some passion for the sport, whereas the Jag outfit is run from the Boardroom. It probably won't happen, but I would love to see Minardi grab regular top ten finishes with the Jags bringing up the rear!
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Nyeeeeahhh this is good news. Not a Ferrari, but I guess this will do as a second best.
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Better than the Ferrari, since presumably much cheaper. The expense was enough to send Prost to the wall. Mind you, the expense of the Cosworth was enough to do for Arrows...
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Actually, the Minardi was a better chassis than the Jag last year. However, Mark is better off at Jag because they are not as cash strapped as Minardi,and will probably have better chances of improving that engine.
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Indeed - and I assume that they underestimated the importance of the whole package... the final five per-cent of the design process... integrating engine, transmission, aero, chassis, tyres etc to make something that is almost more than the sum of its parts is what makes the difference. Certainly there was nothing wrong with the motors - they raced more laps than anyone, bar the red team.
I've got fingers crossed for Minardi - when you look back at 2002 and see the few hopeful results that Arrows managed with the Cosworth engines it gives hope for Minardi in 2003. Actually I wonder if Ford would have played so tough with Arrows had Jaguar been getting the proper results - must have been a significant embarassment mid-season to be beaten by the Arrows. |
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Good news indeed. Roll on Albert Park, I'm tired of all the usual nonsense speculation...
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I think that Ford had to play hardball because they were not going to give the engines to Arrows for nothing. As it turned out, now Ford/Jaguar have financial problems also and had to cut right back on staff to meet their new budget (including firing Niki, I suppose). |
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Prost were financially mismanaged from the word go really, Alain never had the skills to pay the bills. If they've ran Cosworth or Asiatech engines in 2001, they may still be around today, btu wouldn't've taken any worthwhile results. The 2003 Prost lineup would be 2 paydrivers with no hope of beating anyone but Minardi.
As for Arrows, they were clearly in trouble long before this year. The way the car arrived in a barely-tested state, leading to those embarassing problems in Melbourne. The Cosworths may have been cheap, and the chassis impressive, but they had no cash to take it further. |
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