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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:01 (Ref:140053)   #1
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EERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
What a race!!!! Schumacher takes 52nd

Well, that was one for the ages.

Thank God Burti seems to be okay.

Congrats to Fisi for a great race, and Alesi for showing us what guts he has.
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P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Gaps/Laps Average Stops
1. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 0'00"000 2
2. 4 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes B 0'10"000 + 0'10"000 2
3. 7 FISICHELLA Benetton Renault M 0'27"700 + 0'27"700 2
4. 3 HAKKINEN McLaren Mercedes B 0'36"000 + 0'36"000 2
5. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 0'54"500 + 0'54"500 2
6. 12 ALESI Jordan Honda B 0'59"600 + 0'59"600 2
7. 5 R.SCHUMACHER Williams BMW M 0'59"900 + 0'59"900 2
8. 10 VILLENEUVE BAR Honda B 1'04"900 + 1'04"900 2
9. 22 FRENTZEN Prost Acer M 1 lap(s) 1
10. 14 VERSTAPPEN Arrows Asiatech B 1 lap(s) 2
11. 9 PANIS BAR Honda B 1 lap(s) 3
12. 15 BERNOLDI Arrows Asiatech B 1 lap(s) 2
13. 20 MARQUES Minardi European M 4 lap(s) 4
14. 11 TRULLI Jordan Honda B 5 lap(s) 2
15. 8 BUTTON Benetton Renault M 19 lap(s) 0
16. 6 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 35 lap(s) 0
17. 19 DE LA ROSA Jaguar M 35 lap(s) 0
18. 16 HEIDFELD Sauber Petronas B 36 lap(s) 0
19. 21 ALONSO Minardi European M 36 lap(s) 0
20. 17 RAIKKONEN Sauber Petronas B 44 lap(s) 0



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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:07 (Ref:140057)   #2
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Congratulations M.Schumi!!!



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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:10 (Ref:140059)   #3
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Incredible crash... what a lucky guy Luciano.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:16 (Ref:140062)   #4
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180mph crash...superb F1 safety feature!!
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:19 (Ref:140063)   #5
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cripes!

thank God Luciano is ok...i heard that he has a concusion and might have some broken bones (according to speedvision)

not a fan of the guy, but congrats to TGF....the ******* guy can drive

what the hell is up with montoyas luck :confused:
i wake up at 730am to catch the race (sleepy as hell and slightly hungover)
whats the deal with the willaims mechanics leaving ralf's car on the jack?? im sure that'll be for some nice conversations in the board room.

anyways...im going back to bed
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:22 (Ref:140065)   #6
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I'm still jumping for joy for Fisichella. Maybe the Renault is finally coming right. And Fisi alluded to further improvements for Monza. Of course, knowing that he's leaving for the iffy performance of Jordan has to be unnerving, after all the effort he's put into this year.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:28 (Ref:140067)   #7
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Exciting race and surely made up for the boring race in Hungery. Not a very good race for Williams as Montoya's bad luck continues and don't even get me started on the Ralf incident I was so amazed that such a thing would happen. Oh well, better luck next time.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:35 (Ref:140070)   #8
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Great Race, well besides Schumi winning of course...lol
Thank God Burti is OK, just goes to show that the cars are quite safe. Again Trulli has another DNF, he must be happy to be leaving and going to Benetton and seeing Fishi finish on the podium with his next drive must of made him feel good for next year.
Alesi and Ralf made it interesting till the end , another point for Jean Alesi. All in all in was a good race (except for the Burti thing)
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:41 (Ref:140073)   #9
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That race must be one of the most bizarre in recent years. Thankfully Burti was okay after that awful crash (and it was excellent to see Irvine helping to move the tyres away from his car), and we didn't have to see too much of TGF during the race.

Whoever was responsible for taking Ralf's car off its jacks (or not, as the case was) had better be in some serious bother...I wasn't aware that the role of the team was to sabotage their own drivers.

Good to see Benettons up there (although Button is clearly no good under pressure) because it made a nice change to see someone who doesn't drive for Ferrari or McLaren on the podium.
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Yes, Trulli must be the one to be happy with Fisi 3rd place...
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:44 (Ref:140079)   #11
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I'm still jumping for joy for Fisichella
Is it possible that his front tires were still legal? You can't run a whole race at Spa on one set of tires without scrubbing the tread depth below minimums. I'd be surprised if be's not disqualified later today, but we'll see.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:47 (Ref:140080)   #12
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As long as there is 1 groove remaining it will be legal. So Fishi's 3rd place is good.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 14:48 (Ref:140082)   #13
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Is it possible that his front tires were still legal? You can't run a whole race at Spa on one set of tires without scrubbing the tread depth below minimums. I'd be surprised if be's not disqualified later today, but we'll see.

I know, but my fingers are crossed. There didn't seem to be a whole lot of groove left on the fronts in Parc Ferme.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 15:11 (Ref:140106)   #14
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Bravo M schumacher,F1 genius.
It`s official 4 DWC and 52 victories...what a champion.

Hopefully Burti will just have a few bruises and is ok longterm.
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According to DailyF1.com, he'll be kept in hospital overnight but he'll make a full recovery.

I can see why Minardi fan's nickname for him (Lucky) is so apt.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 15:19 (Ref:140117)   #16
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So RG, what do you make of Ralf's jack stand being left under the car on the restart?

"Hey, guys! I can see my house from up here!!"
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There are many expletives I could use to describe that, but as this is a nice, family forum I won't.
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Old 2 Sep 2001, 15:31 (Ref:140128)   #18
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Well done Schui. Only three more records to go and two can be broken this season....
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Congratulations to Schumi der Erste in one more page of the record books.

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Old 2 Sep 2001, 15:42 (Ref:140142)   #20
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I'd like to add my hearty congrats to Michael and the entire Scuderia for todays victory....I would also like to thank God, Yahweh, Allah, Buddha Amida, and any other of the monikers we mortals lable the supreme being for riding with Luciano those last 100 meters or so..... thank you

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Old 2 Sep 2001, 15:55 (Ref:140157)   #21
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"Great Race, well besides Schumi winning of course"

I think its a great race too... INCLUDING Schumacher's winning!


DC had to thank his lucky stars today for being able to scrap into 2nd when no less than 4 cars tripped over themselves today for him...

Rubens...tough luck...poor pit stop calls, a clip of the front wing and having Mika slowing him back a little is all that needs to drop him to 7th before his climb back to the points. He ought to make the best of today...

Not worse than HHF...wonderful 4th ended even before the lights go off...darn... i was banking on him to hold up Mika and DC to let Rubens run off into the distance...

Its strange that Ferrari mechanics need to help Ralf grab the attention of the Williams people to the fact that his car is left high and dry...

But unpredictable race...better than Hungary of course..~
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And there are plumes of smoke coming out of one of the Williams... It's... it's.... JUAN PABLO MONTOYA!!!


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Rubens...tough luck...poor pit stop calls, a clip of the front wing and having Mika slowing him back a little is all that needs to drop him to 7th before his climb back to the points. He ought to make the best of today...

I dont think it was tough luck, its more Rubinho's talent that was at fault.. Schumi would love to help Rubinho out and let him win but unfortunately Rubinho cant drive for **** , he has a Ferrari and still cant qualify ahead of a Prost!!! now that is funny.
He is and always will be a #2 driver and that is a big compliment.
How can Micheal help him out when he is always 7th or 8th on the track???
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Man of the race undoubtedly Fisichella. Very, very good drive. Excellent. Every pitstop I was worried he'd be overtaken by the Mac's easily, but as he wasn't indicated how well on the pace he was. Pretty amazing ride. He didn't drove defensively but instead stuck to his own lines was the biggest (mental) reason for succes I guess. He had DC beautifully covered at La Source but was, unlike the other laps, unhappy at exiting which was probably the reason why DC blasted past. For the rest, amazingly strong performance. I hope he gets to more of this in the remaining races.

His performance was clearly coming from the Michelins too and that makes you wonder if the race could have been as thrilling at the front between the Williams and TGF as it was now behind TGF. Funny that TGF kept pushing till the second pitstops because they didn't know if Fisico was on a one-less strategy.

Image of the race definetly the super slo-mo shot of Trulli and Alesi in the Jordans drifting closely behind each other with nice oversteer through Eau Rouge. Really awesome! The others had none of this so the Jordan must have been a handful or they were just having more fun.

Also noteworthy were the shots of the laps that Alesi, Rubens and Ralf were closely packed. Alesi steering in late, using maximum width and all curb so beautifully. Rubens steering in just a bit earlier, using less curb and clean off the edges which is more his style. And Ralf (sorry RG ) but it showed his untidy driving in all its 'finesse'. Alternating too late with way too early, sometimes way too clear, sometimes floating too wide, such a mess. Fights were good though and I really hoped Rubens could be kept behind but unfortunately it wasn't meant to be. 1 point is a really cool reward for the team as it must have been shattered a bit by losing Trulli's fifth place into smoke.

All in all, as was the qualifying, a pretty nice race, apart from the hold-your-breath-part when 'Lucky' crashed. I really thought it was all over but I am glad to hear he has a change of good recovery. It's hard to tell though as this was such a huge impact he will suffer damage without a doubt. Remember Zanardi's crash who had about the same thing with a faulty suspension crashing almost head-on the Eau Rouge barriers in '92. He was pretty unscatched alltogether, but suffered enough brain damage that he got a growth boost and became 1 inch taller overall and his arms by 1,5 inches. Or Frentzen who suffered from severe tremblings for quite some time. Fingers crossed for Luciano that he'll recover just fine.
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Well done Michael.

Thank God Luciano is ok.

If Rubens is so **** how come he's 3rd in the standings and only TGF has had more podiums?

Zanardi crashed in 93 and the way senna helped him reminded me a little of what Irvine did today... It shows that drivers do care about their colleagues despite what some people think.
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