For Sure, this has to stop!

joe rossi · 27 Jul 2009, 11:02 (Ref:2509008)

I know it has been mentioned before numerous times, but this ridiculous prevalence of saying "for sure" in every interview by every F1 person is reaching epic proportions....Even Jenson has caught the bug!

When asked by AUTOSPORT if his 18.5 points advantage was comfortable, Button said: "For sure, not. I have lost 15 points to Webber over the past three races, and that is massive.

"It's five points per race. It means he will be in front of me in four races time, and there are seven races left. So it is for sure not comfortable, but I cannot do anything about it at the moment

It doesn't even make bl**dy sense! You are English man! speak it properly.

Didn't Schmacher start this? you can almost forgive drivers who speak english as a second language, but when Brits get in on the act it's time to comment!

***MagnetON*** · 27 Jul 2009, 11:09 (Ref:2509021)

We play the "For Sure" drinking game! Every time someone says it you have to take a swig. We should add a new rule that if a native english speaker uses the phrase then you have to "down in one".

**Tim Falce** · 27 Jul 2009, 11:33 (Ref:2509055)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe rossi

Didn't Schmacher start this?

For sure.

Super Hans · 27 Jul 2009, 11:34 (Ref:2509057)

It's annoying for sure.

Super Hans · 27 Jul 2009, 11:34 (Ref:2509058)

For sure, I was beaten to it by Falcey.

**Born Racer** · 27 Jul 2009, 11:36 (Ref:2509061)

It is odd for sure.

But why is 'for certain' considered more acceptable in English than 'for sure'? They both seem as gramatically 'incorrect'.

As with anything in language however, if enough people start saying it, it becomes commonplace enough to become a part of the language, so I often take issue with the idea that something is 'wrong' in a language, otherwise we should all presumably be using what is now known as Old English.

Is this mainly an F1 thing, because it's usually there that I hear it?

**Born Racer** · 27 Jul 2009, 11:37 (Ref:2509066)

at our predictable 'for sure' responses.

Super Hans · 27 Jul 2009, 11:38 (Ref:2509067)

It's not that it's wrong, it's just that it's over-used and unecessary. It's like when you watch Jeremy Kyle and everyone just says 'at the end of the day' over and over again for an hour and a half.

elspethhardie · 27 Jul 2009, 11:42 (Ref:2509073)

I have to admit that I over use the phrase "Basically" it even annoys me when I say it!

I have also noticed that if a word / phrase is used by one person a lot that is close to me I tend to pick up on it and start saying it too. For example my friend Dee calls people Dude, and before I met her I never used the phrase now I do, although not a lot!

Marbot · 27 Jul 2009, 11:43 (Ref:2509075)

For sure,at the end of the day it gets dark.Now will someone step up to the plate and stop this madness !

People that finish every sentence with "Yer know". AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

**Born Racer** · 27 Jul 2009, 11:43 (Ref:2509078)

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It's like when you watch Jeremy Kyle

I stay away.

Fair point about its over-use. I heard Christian Horner use it in Hungary in a sentence which also included 'possibly'. I think he meant 'possibly' but he started by being 'sure'.

It kind of amuses me in the same way that Jonathan Legard's obsession with 'pushing on' 'kicking on' makes me chuckle. It wouldn't be the same without it.

Quote:

I have also noticed that if a word / phrase is used by one person a lot that is close to me I tend to pick up on it and start saying it too.

I'm susceptible to that. I quite like it though; it's a subtle feeling of belonging. Since living in Yorkshire, I've picked up a tiny amount of the accent too, as a friend who used to live here told me when I went to see him.

Super Hans · 27 Jul 2009, 11:44 (Ref:2509079)

At the end of the day, this is funny, for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48HUdzoKiPA

**Tim Falce** · 27 Jul 2009, 11:58 (Ref:2509101)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marbot

For sure,at the end of the day it gets dark.Now will someone step up to the plate and stop this madness !

People that finish every sentence with "Yer know". AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

Just wait until F1 drivers finish a sentence with "innit"

Oh, Born Racer, for sure it's grammatically.

Razor · 27 Jul 2009, 12:00 (Ref:2509104)

(In a faux Scottish accent) Oh, for sure.

jab · 27 Jul 2009, 12:19 (Ref:2509127)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Hans

At the end of the day, this is funny, for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48HUdzoKiPA

I'm scarred for life now. I'm never going to be able to keep a straight face when I say that...

Nicholosophy · 27 Jul 2009, 12:42 (Ref:2509146)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab

I'm scarred for life now. I'm never going to be able to keep a straight face when I say that...

That's for sure.

Mr V · 27 Jul 2009, 13:44 (Ref:2509215)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Hans

It's like when you watch Jeremy Kyle

Sad man

Perksy · 27 Jul 2009, 13:53 (Ref:2509221)

Isn't this a function of a multi-cultural/lingual background? Lots of European languages contain phrases such as Bien Sur as an expression. When drivers/officials/fans then speak english they insert a literal translation of what is actually just a figure of speech. Schumi used to say it all the time. If everyone else is saying it, it tends to catch on.
Kinda sweet really!

Ricky Bobby · 27 Jul 2009, 14:19 (Ref:2509236)

This phrase isn't exclusive to F1.
Loeb and Rossi use it constantly.
My wife laughs at it and mimicks it whenever she hears one of them using it.

zac510 · 27 Jul 2009, 14:27 (Ref:2509238)

http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st146795.htm

**Born Racer** · 27 Jul 2009, 14:28 (Ref:2509240)

I'm now curious to see if it creeps into use here (outside this thread of course!). We're all exposed to it quite a lot, after all.

**Bononi** · 27 Jul 2009, 14:31 (Ref:2509247)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe rossi

I know it has been mentioned before numerous times, but this ridiculous prevalence of saying "for sure" in every interview by every F1 person is reaching epic proportions....Even Jenson has caught the bug!

When asked by AUTOSPORT if his 18.5 points advantage was comfortable, Button said: "For sure, not. I have lost 15 points to Webber over the past three races, and that is massive.

"It's five points per race. It means he will be in front of me in four races time, and there are seven races left. So it is for sure not comfortable, but I cannot do anything about it at the moment

It doesn't even make bl**dy sense! You are English man! speak it properly.

Didn't Schmacher start this? you can almost forgive drivers who speak english as a second language, but when Brits get in on the act it's time to comment!

That's because you don't know the other way around ! There are some language constructions (expressions ?) that are originated in english and has spread over other languages, that are worst than the swine virus... some non-english linguists are terrified by how this is killing the original grammar.

strider · 27 Jul 2009, 14:56 (Ref:2509274)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac510

http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st146795.htm

Definately! (M own personal bugbear)

icemachine · 27 Jul 2009, 17:42 (Ref:2509360)

At the end of the day, I don't what yer talking about for sure, eh?

AshMcD · 27 Jul 2009, 18:28 (Ref:2509389)

Basically, at the end of the day for sure ... erm... what was I saying.

/mr predictable.

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