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15 May 2000, 23:08 (Ref:1052)
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Rubens has not (so far) put himself in a position of dominance where he could stand a good chance of winning. However, I have every expectation that he can, and that in a very short while he will.
The thing with Chris Amon is that he was one of the dominant drivers of his era, a proven winner in other formulae, and utterly without fortune in F1. It's the old saying, if it wasn't for the bad luck, he'd have no luck at all. Classic example was perhaps the last season in which he stood a good chance of winning, when he was driving the V12 Matra. On two occasions that I can think of, he had a healthy lead, with a few laps to go. On the first occasion, he cut a tyre, on the second occasion, his engine ingested a pebble. I think in the final analysis, he could count about a dozen races in his career that he was in a position to win, only to have a mechanical gremlin jump up and bite. |
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15 May 2000, 23:24 (Ref:1053)
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I was just idly flicking through an F1 stats book last night, and discovered an almost unbelievable set of figures:
Despite driving for; Tyrell, Zakspeed, Williams, Brabham, Benetton, Ligier, McLaren and Jordan, Martin Brundle NEVER won a race out of 158 starts, yet 'the next' team always considered the man capable. Have times really changed that much? |
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15 May 2000, 23:34 (Ref:1054)
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Sparky, you're right.
And Martin was a World Sportscar Champion, so he was hardly a slouch. Let us not forget he was also the only driver who could shake any kind of stick at Ayrton Senna during their Formula 3 year. And as benchmarks go, Ayrton has to be one of the best... |
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16 May 2000, 09:08 (Ref:1050)
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Chris Amon is widely considered to be the best formula 1 driver who is yet to win a race. Up until now I hadn't considered comparing him to Barrichello as I had always assumed that Barrichello would eventually win a race. Now I'm not so sure. For whatever reason he has been consistently out-performed by Schumacher this season and it looks like the only chances he is going to get are when Schumacher has problems. I can easily see him going through the season without winning a race and in that case he might not get another chance as good again.
Barrichello has had 3 poles and 3 second places in his career so far. So, what do you think? Is he better than Amon and therefore the best driver never to win a race? Will he one day win a race and so be ineligible for the title? Or is Chris Amon not in fact the best driver not to have won a race so who is? |
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16 May 2000, 10:53 (Ref:1051)
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"Chris Amon is widely considered to be the best formula 1 driver who is yet to win a race."
-And i can't see him winning one in the near future... When Alesi was at Ferrari, he was the next Amon...but he ruined that by winning. He'll win one day...just wait until TGF blows up, or breaks a led or something... |
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16 May 2000, 13:15 (Ref:1055)
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Be patient. The day Ferrari gives him a good car he will win. Just remember how he did in Silverstone and you will see that he has what it takes to win.
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16 May 2000, 14:32 (Ref:1056)
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RB will win a race for sure. The question is if that's all he is going to get...
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20 May 2000, 16:56 (Ref:1057)
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Yes Ok everyone thinks Barrichello will win a race sooner or later. Maybe he'll win tomorrow, who knows? The fact remains though that he hasn't won a race yet. The fact that everyone thinks he is going to win sooner or later seems to me to give more evidence towards the 'best driver never to win a race' tag. Just for the record I also expect him to win sooner or later. It's just that now for the first time I can see that it might not be such a sure thing.
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27 Dec 2008, 14:39 (Ref:2361487)
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Of course, Chris Amon never had the benefit of a track-invading nutter.
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27 Dec 2008, 15:43 (Ref:2361503)
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Another 'Thread from the dead'.
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27 Dec 2008, 16:10 (Ref:2361510)
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So sorry... RB is out of F1.
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