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27 Jun 2009, 18:37 (Ref:2491681) | #1 | ||
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British F3 Snetterton
Is it too early for predictions?
Possibly, but there is apparently a 3rd driver at Litespeed ,Aaron Steele, driving in National Class in a second Litespeed R1 |
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Here are the theoretical best lap times from today's qualifying sessions. They are made up of the best sector times for each driver, in either session.
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There are a couple of major problems, especially this weekend. The first is that the WSR is at Silverstone and FREE, so a lot of folk are there. The second is that no-one seems particularly interested in F3 this year unless someone really massages the the thread along from start to finish. As I said I'm doing other things, but I don't mind giving a hand tonight. The report of Q1 is here and the times were: Code:
Pos Driver Team Car Time Gap 1. Renger van der Zande Hitech D/M 1m02.071s 2. Henry Arundel Carlin D/V 1m02.074s +0.003 3. Max Chilton Carlin D/V 1m02.079s +0.008 4. Daniel Ricciardo Carlin D/V 1m02.178s +0.107 5. Walter Grubmuller Hitech D/M 1m02.195s +0.124 6. Riki Christodoulou Fortec D/M 1m02.226s +0.155 7. Daisuke Nakajima Double R D/M 1m02.372s +0.301 8. Adriano Buzaid T-Sport D/V 1m02.406s +0.335 9. Jay Bridger Litespeed M/M 1m02.509s +0.438 10. Daniel McKenzie Fortec D/H 1m02.643s +0.572 11. Wayne Boyd T-Sport D/V 1m02.679s +0.608 12. Carlos Huertas Double R D/M 1m02.690s +0.619 13. Gabriel Dias T-Sport D/H 1m02.729s +0.658 14. Philip Major Carlin D/V 1m02.743s +0.672 15. Victor Garcia Fortec D/M 1m02.983s +0.912 16. Hywel Lloyd CF D/H 1m03.328s +1.257 17. Stephane Richelmi Barazi Epsilon D/M 1m03.523s +1.452 18. Victor Correa Litespeed S/H 1m03.861s +1.790 19. Maxim Snegirev West-Tec D/H 1m04.459s +2.388 20. Aaron Steele Litespeed S/H 1m04.928s +2.857 Code:
Pos Driver Team Car Time Gap 1. Renger van der Zande Hitech D/M 1m02.098s 2. Walter Grubmuller Hitech D/M 1m02.166s + 0.068s 3. Riki Christodoulou Fortec D/M 1m02.184s + 0.086s 4. Max Chilton Carlin D/V 1m02.310s + 0.212s 5. Daniel Ricciardo Carlin D/V 1m02.331s + 0.233s 6. Adriano Buzaid T-Sport D/V 1m02.437s + 0.339s 7. Wayne Boyd T-Sport D/V 1m02.457s + 0.359s 8. Victor Garcia Fortec D/M 1m02.536s + 0.438s 9. Daisuke Nakajima Double R D/M 1m02.543s + 0.445s 10. Jay Bridger Litespeed M/M 1m02.611s + 0.513s 11. Henry Arundel Carlin D/V 1m02.704s + 0.606s 12. Carlos Huertas Double R D/M 1m02.716s + 0.618s 13. Daniel McKenzie Fortec D/H 1m02.736s + 0.638s 14. Gabriel Dias T-Sport D/H 1m02.779s + 0.681s 15. Hywel Lloyd CF D/H 1m03.184s + 1.086s 16. Philip Major Carlin D/V 1m03.234s + 1.136s 17. Stephane Richelmi Barazi Epsilon D/M 1m03.466s + 1.368s 18. Victor Correa Litespeed S/H 1m03.563s + 1.465s 19. Aaron Steele Litespeed S/H 1m04.343s + 2.245s 20. Maxim Snegirev West-Tec D/H 1m04.681s + 2.583s There were supposed to be 22 cars this weekend, but there are only 20. One absentee is Nick Tandy for reasons I explained elsewhere, but I can't work out who else is missing. Both Philip Major and Aaron Steele are there as new comers. Anyone help? There is no live coverage on line, which people don't like, but if you go here and click on the Live Timing button, that's what you'll get. It's better than nothing. The weather tomorrow is likely to be be okay, although one of Friday's test sessions was washed out. Keep an eye on the official website here for further information. By my calculations the first race is at 11.50am. Not sure about race 2, but it's usually around 3.30pm. Hope that helps. |
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Apart from that, switching Tandy-Ericsson-Wickens with Major-Steele-Snergiev is not exactly improving quality of the field. |
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Is van der Zande's deal really to play second fiddle to Grubmuller? He only missed 2 races, so isn't he racing for the title himself? Or does Walter's dad play a part? Because as we all know, Renger is by far the better of the two.. Looks like McKenzie is still following on from his great form in the National class, a couple of rounds ago at Rockinham it looked like Dias had the edge. Respectable times too by Correa, I often wonder what he could do in a Dallara. He was a race winner in Formula Ford last year, and FF graduates usually go well...I assume he is a lot quicker than the Litespeed R1 enables him to go to be honest. Considering the car was set-up by Robbie Kerr in winter, it has never showed much pace, neither in the Euroseries with Carbone nor National class. |
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Great efforts in qualifying by Renger - he seems to be able to get that little bit extra out of the car when 10ths of a second are like gold...
Hope for a great round of British F3 |
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Yes, Ericsson has gone back to Japan now but certainly proved that there was nothing wrong with Double R's car. Major replaces Wickens, who was having a one-off in Hockenheim. Snegirev is back and Steele is a genuine addition, but Tandy has gone, although he did the Friday test, so 20 cars it is. Quote:
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You're right about the Litespeed. The team are a very nice bunch and they did a good job of converting the car to National Class spec, but it has never been a particularly quick car, even in the hands of Fabio Carbone. I winced a bit when I heard that Robbie Kerr was developing the car over the winter. Not because Robbie is a bad driver, but he has a very individual set-up preference, which doesn't usually suit other drivers. They should have used Danny Watts. |
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If it is that obvious that Hitech is Team Grubmuller - why is it allowed to happen?
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5 Jul 2009, 12:40 (Ref:2496092) | #9 | ||
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Renger van der Zande has won race 1 at a canter, report here.
I was watching live timing and Renger seemed to be in a class of his own. He was probably helped by the fact that Henry Arundel was in 2nd place until Ricciardo got by and then pulled away. I don't know why, considering it has one of the longest straights in the country, but Snetterton is a particularly difficult circuit on which to overtake in F3. |
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Well, Walter better pull his finger out or daddy will get angry...
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Pos Driver Team Car Gap 1. Renger van der Zande Hitech D/M 30m39.225s 2. Daniel Ricciardo Carlin D/V +3.870 3. Henry Arundel Carlin D/V +10.243 4. Walter Grubmüller Hitech D/M +10.649 5. Riki Christodoulou Fortec D/M +14.269 6. Max Chilton Carlin D/V +14.674 7. Jay Bridger Litespeed M/M +15.089 8. Daniel McKenzie Fortec D/H +15.721 9. Adriano Buzaid T-Sport D/V +16.640 10. Daisuke Nakajima Double R D/M +19.958 11. Gabriel Dias T-Sport D/H +26.866 12. Victor Garcia Fortec D/M +27.866 13. Hywel Lloyd CF D/H +29.471 14. Philip Major Carlin D/V +30.516 15. Wayne Boyd T-Sport D/V +30.843 16. Stephane Richelmi Barazi Epsilon D/M +53.827 17. Victor Correa Litespeed S/H +56.316 18. Aaron Steele Litespeed S/H +1 lap 19. Maxim Snegirev West-Tec D/H +1 lap Retirements Carlos Huertas Double R D/M 15 laps Fastest lap, Van der Zande 1:02.645 on lap 12 |
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Race 2 sounds to have been more interesting. Report here. I'm saying absolutely nothing about the start, but congratulations to Riki Christodoulou, not just for the win but also for overtaking someone! Although it doesn't say so VDZ took fastest lap - no surprise there.
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Full results: Pos Driver Team Car Time/Gap 1. Riki Christodoulou Fortec D/M 30m42.827s 2. Daniel Ricciardo Carlin D/V + 1.152s 3. Walter Grubmuller Hitech D/M + 1.803s 4. Renger van der Zande Hitech D/M + 3.095s 5. Adriano Buzaid T-Sport D/V + 7.390s 6. Wayne Boyd T-Sport D/V + 9.213s 7. Max Chilton Carlin D/V + 9.767s 8. Henry Arundel Carlin D/V + 15.916s 9. Jay Bridger Litespeed M/M + 16.263s 10. Victor Garcia Fortec D/M + 17.165s 11. Gabriel Dias T-Sport D/H + 18.584s 12. Carlos Huertas Double R D/M + 20.324s 13. Daisuke Nakajima Double R D/M + 21.040s 14. Daniel McKenzie Fortec D/H + 21.506s 15. Hywel Lloyd CF D/H + 27.152s 16. Aaron Steele Litespeed S/H + 56.745s 17. Victor Correa Litespeed S/H + 1 lap 18. Maxim Snegirev West-Tec D/H + 1 lap Retirements: Philip Major Carlin D/V 19 laps Stephane Richelmi Barazi Epsilon D/M 0 laps |
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What happened at the start strider? How did Grubmuller get infront of Renger?
Another good points drive for Ricciardo - Congrats to Riki on his 1st F3 race win |
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6 Jul 2009, 00:44 (Ref:2496332) | #15 | ||
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Renger nearly stalled, which meant that Grubmuller, who was on the front row with him, took the lead, but he only held it for a couple of laps before first Christodoulou and then your mate Ricciardo got past.
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6 Jul 2009, 10:12 (Ref:2496472) | #16 | ||
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Date for Snetterton is unfortunate, we had WSbR, BTCC and BGT weekend in 1 weekend. Ebbesvik, what I just found outwas with West Tec and won race 1 at Donington.
What was attandance like at Snetterton? |
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absolutely, especially if you're a bit pressed for money. given the choice of paying £20 for the privelege of watching f3 and a 12 car hour long gt race, or getting a free day down the road at silverstone it was a no brainer.
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Totally agree. The trouble is that when SRO look at dates all they care about is that there is no GT clash. I thought MSV might think about it, but they get the testing income from Friday plus a big circuit hire fee from SRO, so they're not too bothered what happens after that.
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6 Jul 2009, 21:06 (Ref:2496865) | #19 | |
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The first round at Oulton Park had a great turn out but thats only because of it being easter weekend. I think something needs to be done to increase crowds, but to be fair the price compared to the quality of racing really doesn't make sense. The only race thats a good one to watch is the Formula Fords and boy do they put on a show. Maybe if there was more done to get fans involved that would help.
Im still sticking with my pre season choice of champion - Ricciardo. Shame that Tandy has gone as he always made the race more interesting but good luck to him in Euro F3. I think he will do well as the car needs devolping and he showed he can do that with the Mygale. |
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but still the usual queue towards Thetford on the way home. I guess whilst it clashed with WSR at Silverstone, Snet is quite a way for many to travel and F3 is probably the quickest single seaters the track will see. |
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the snett races are historically pretty tedious as well - i know that was a factor in my choice of where to go on sunday. it's closer to me than silverstone by about half an hour, but that wasn't enough encouragement.
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