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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:08 (Ref:795105)   #1
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autosport and motorsport news report that prodrive have signed a deal to build an aston martin db9 gts car to compete at le mans in 2005.

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:22 (Ref:795120)   #2
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:30 (Ref:795127)   #3
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 15:49 (Ref:795151)   #4
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Yes indeed. Look forward to 2005.

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 16:13 (Ref:795175)   #5
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Good to see Aston will be racing something again. Does seem to eliminate any chance of seeing a Ford GT is GTS doesn't it.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 16:19 (Ref:795181)   #6
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I thought it was the production supercharged 5.4 that eliminated that chance.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 16:25 (Ref:795192)   #7
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What is the displacement limit on forced induction motors in the GTS category??? 4.0l's?
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 17:08 (Ref:795251)   #8
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Yep. I doubt it would be worthwhile to sleeve out the cylinders.

It appears that they could remove the charger, though. (5.2.2(b) of the GTS regs)

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:06 (Ref:795292)   #9
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so a 4.0L Supercharged Ford GT GTS contender could still be a possibility at least
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:06 (Ref:795293)   #10
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Great news, just a shame they cant go in 2004
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:36 (Ref:795325)   #11
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None too bad at all thanks!
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:46 (Ref:795334)   #12
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Good to see BOTH AM and Lamborghini entering GTS rather than the less exciting GT class.

To me it seems only a matter of time before GTS cars are upgraded to compete with the LMPs.

The question is whether GTS will be upgraded or a new GT1 class will be introduced without the homologation pitfalls of the previous 'GT1' class as Ratel seems to prefer.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:50 (Ref:795339)   #13
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so a 4.0L Supercharged Ford GT GTS contender could still be a possibility at least
Not knowing thing one about engine blocks, I'd guess it would make more sense to remove the s/c and bore out the engine. I'm assuming the block is somewhat substantial (since it can operate at the higher pressures required by the s/c), and if the Ferrari could get from 5.5 to 6, I'd think the Ford 5.6 could get to 6 at least, maybe even 6.5 if the geometry is right.

It's too bad they went with the 5.6 as the base for the 'charger. If they had've gone with the mod V8 (as used in the Panoz GT and the Multimatic DP among others) they'd only have to sleeve down 0.6L. I fear that 1.6L is a lot of displacement to sleeve out, and you'd end up with a pretty big 4.0L...
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 20:34 (Ref:795437)   #14
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 21:41 (Ref:795507)   #15
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If you are speaking of the four cam Ford, it will not go above 350 in. cubed. The engine is extremely heavy as it is which is why Ford did not give it a large heavier cyl. block.
If they do not allow destroking, the engine is already a long-stroke engine and sleeving down to 4l will make it internal geometry better suited to tractor-pulling than sports car racing.
At 330 in.cu. it is already a long-stroke engine.
Now the old push-rod engine used by Panoz and Saleen, that can be expanded quite a bit, if they use the tall-deck version.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 21:57 (Ref:795529)   #16
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As I said, Bob, I know nothing about engines, so I'm just speculating. I'd think that destroking would be available, too, but down to 4.0L (in a combination of destroking and sleeving) seems pretty, erm, optimistic. Whether it'd be worthwhile when (as you pointed out) it would end up being a very heavy 4L motor is the question...

edit: the four-cam is the GT's 5.6? I guess it's almost at its maximum displacement already (350 ci = 5.7ish L).
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Old 27 Nov 2003, 06:38 (Ref:795773)   #17
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Crickey, the GTS category is really going up !

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Old 27 Nov 2003, 11:30 (Ref:795954)   #18
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She was/ is a beauty Fab. Le Mans has been waiting for the AM marque to return. It's felt like somethings been missing for a good few years now.
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Can-t wait.

Short of stealing from a dealership, does anyone know where I can get an Aston Martin flag???
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Dumb question, but what are Aston Martin's racing color's? If they have a factory color scheme...
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I'm not sure, but red, blue and white (like Union Jack) or brit racing green would seem likely -non? Wahoo indeed... can't wait.
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Dumb question, but what are Aston Martin's racing color's? If they have a factory color scheme...
Back in the 50's I think A-M 's version of British Racing Green was a different- lighter?- shade than Jaguar's- alternatively the Group C AMR1s were red white and blue as pilgramage suggested
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Old 28 Nov 2003, 13:30 (Ref:797086)   #25
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