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27 Jun 2001, 15:44 (Ref:110312) | #1 | ||
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Half term grades
It's half way through the season, so how do you rate the drivers so far? My ratings are:
M Schumacher - A = has made it look easy all season R Barrichello - B- = should be getting closer to Schumi M Hakkinen - C+ = seems to have lost interest this year D Coulthard - A- = very quick and consistent performances R Schumacher - A- = challengine Schumi on more than one occasion J Montoya - B = has his moments but too inconsistent G Fisichella - B = doing the best he can in that awful car J Button - C- = thrashed by his team-mate regularly O Panis - B = put Villeneuve in the shade J Villeneuve - C+ = podium aside, a poor showing overall HH Frentzen - C- too many mistakes and just too slow J Trulli - B+ = excellent qualifier, plucky racer J Verstappen - B = sensational starts in his average car E Bernoldi - C- = totally off the pace in most races N Heidfeld - B+ = very mature and a future star K Raikkonen - A- = beating Nick - revelation of season E Irvine - B = working hard and grinding out results P de la Rosa - C = Canada aside, very average F Alonso - B = hauling his Minardi where it shouldn't be T Marques - D = appalling driving consistently J Alesi - B = finished every race, Jean still has it L Burti - C+ = finishing races but not very quickly |
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27 Jun 2001, 16:10 (Ref:110322) | #2 | ||
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M Schumacher - A = the stewards' pet
R Barrichello - D- = a hacker M Hakkinen - C = has lost interest this year D Coulthard - A = still great R Schumacher - A = next wdc J Montoya - c+ = rembember zinardi G Fisichella - c = not pushing hard enough J Button - F = comming to a cart race near you O Panis - B+ = great stuff and getting beter J Villeneuve - C+ = gone fishing HH Frentzen - D = wrong team J Trulli - B = F1 needs more of his likes J Verstappen - A = with his car? awesome E Bernoldi - dnf = summer school N Heidfeld - C = tuf enuf K Raikkonen - A- = comming soon: the ralf and kimi show E Irvine - A = a no win situation P de la Rosa - B = go pedro F Alonso - dnf = summer camp T Marques - drop out now before you hurt someone Alesi - A = still the king L Burti - D - wake up burti |
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27 Jun 2001, 17:36 (Ref:110357) | #3 | ||
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Alesi hasn't finished every race, he crashed out whilst attempting a rash move last weekend.
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27 Jun 2001, 17:37 (Ref:110359) | #4 | ||
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M Schumacher - A = lucky Results in some of the races
Barrichello - C = not doing good job than last year M Hakkinen - E = Car keeps F**king up D Coulthard - A+ = 2 stroming wins R Schumacher -A+ = 2 wins and shows his brother the way in Canada J Montoya - B = showed Schumacher up in Brazil thats my Boy G Fisichella - E = Slow Car scored only point 4 Benetton J Button - U = Wake Up Jenson its not a williams O Panis - C = beating Villenuve J Villeneuve -D = Scored first Podium 4 B.A.R HH Frentzen -E = Lost it in the past 4 races J Trulli - D = Strong performances needs strong finish J Verstappen - C = Stroming starts E Bernoldi - U-- = Too Slow N Heidfeld - D = Better than last year by miles K Raikkonen -A++ - = wouldn'y have guessed I saw him in this postion E Irvine - B = scored Jags first Podium P de la Rosa -C = finished in 6th at Canada F Alonso - E = strong start but has lost it T Marques - Gone Alesi -B = betterx1000 than lasy year L Burti -E - Filling mazzances boots and it tells Zonta at Canada- D = good drive desipite late notice |
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27 Jun 2001, 17:55 (Ref:110377) | #5 | ||
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A+ Ralf Schumacher
A Michael Schumacher B+ Kimi Raikkonen B Jean Alesi B Juan-Pablo Montoya B David Coulthard B Nick Heidfeld B- Eddie Irvine B- Jos Verstappen C+ Olivier Panis C+ Rubens Barrichello C Jacques Villeneuve C Fernando Alonso C Pedro de la Rosa D Jarno Trulli D Heinz-Harald Frentzen D- Ricardo Zonta E Luciano Burti E Enrique Bernoldi E Giancarlo Fisichella E- Mika Hakkinen F Jenson Button G Gaston Mazzacane G Tarso Marques Z ITV for not showing live coverage of the Canadian GP qualification session. |
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28 Jun 2001, 01:32 (Ref:110565) | #6 | ||
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Hmmm, I'll classify this way:
distinction (Get these guys in long term contracts) *Michael - What can you say - the best out there *Ralf - the WDC trophy will be handed from one brother to the other *Panis - exceeding my expectations so far *Nick - putting last year behind him very well *kimi - what can you say - brilliant *Alesi - back to his former self *Alonso - How do you get that car up there? Pass (re-assess in future) *Rubino - No. 1a - more like a good No. 2 *DC - Better hold on to him - what else do they have *JMP - if he continues to improve - could be very good *Trulli - can qualify - but races are average *Frenzie - can race - but can't qualify *Jacques - Are you passed it? Pull you finger out *Jos - the cross between brilliance and tradgedy - could have a distiction or a fail *Bernoldi - not bad for a pay driver *Eddie - if you could driver as fast as you speak - WDC in 99 *Fisi - claw your way back to the top Fail (Look for replacement immediately) *Mika - give it up *Pedro - Whats happening - you were doing so well last year *Button - can't handle the tough times *Burti - it will be a short career *Tarso - give it up to another "should'nt be here" |
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28 Jun 2001, 02:16 (Ref:110574) | #7 | ||
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M Schumacher - A = Superior car, but still the best.
R Barrichello - B = Nothing special M Hakkinen - C+ = No motivation. Should have retired last year. D Coulthard - A- = Consistent. Shame the car's no good. R Schumacher - A- = Very fast, almost a good as TGF J Montoya - B+ = Fast. Would be A if he could stay on the track G Fisichella - B- = Hopeless car, but he's doing OK J Button - C+ = Not as fast as Giancarlo O Panis - B+ = Better than Villeneuve? J Villeneuve - B- = Disappointing really H Frentzen - B = He's doing OK, but not as good as '99 J Trulli - B+ = Fast, has had loads of bad luck R Zonta - B = Only one race, but drove well J Verstappen - B- = He still crashes too much E Bernoldi - C = Not very fast, a bit of a surprise really N Heidfeld - A = Brilliant, one of the stars of the future K Raikkonen - A- = Very Quick E Irvine - B = Hard to tell if he is trying P de la Rosa - B- = It's hard to join a team mid-season F Alonso - B+ = Good in qualifying. Not quite so good in races T Marques - C- = There because of cash, not speed J Alesi - A = One of the stars so far, in a midgrid car L Burti - B- = Moderate. Nothing Special G Mazzacane - E = Hate to say it, but he was rubbish |
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28 Jun 2001, 02:54 (Ref:110584) | #8 | |
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M.Schumacher - A+ (superior, smart and consistent)
R.Barrichello - B- (struggling for outright pace, manages to get some good results). M.Hakkinen - C+ (bad luck in Spain, otherwise struggling). D.Coulthard - A- (quick early, struggling of late, not aggressive enough). R.Schumacher - A+ (finally developing into the superstar we knew he would be). Montoya - B+ (reasonably quick and agressive, starting to mature). J.Trulli - B+ (brilliant qualifying, lots of bad luck in races). Frentzen - C+ (can't match Trulli's pace, needs to step it up). N.Heidfeld - B (showing he does have talent). K.Raikkonen - A- (what can you say, starting to fade a little with the Sauber). J.Villeneuve - B- (still struggling a bit, showing occasional glimpses of speed). O.Panis - B (sometimes outperforming more illustrious teammate. Goes missing in races). G.Fisichella - B+ (getting results out of that thing is like trying to extract orange juice from a watermelon). J.Button - C- (very ordinary. Miles behind Fisi, and the only real competition for the Minardis). E.Irvine - B (probably getting the best out of the Jag. Will improve as the car does). P.de La Rosa - B- (struggling a bit. Give him more time in the car). J.Verstappen - B- (going alright. Needs more consistency). E.Bernoldi - C (pretty ordinary. Closer to teammate than Jenson. Did the right thing in Monaco, despite what others think). J.Alesi - B+ (the most enjoyable guy to watch, just a shame we don't get to see him much. Still got it). L.Burti (beetle) - C+ (not impressive, not unimpressive. May improve with more time in the car). Fernando (ABBA) - B+ (nearly an A-. Doing a fantastic job for such a young guy in a **** car. Makes Jensen's performances look very dull). T.Marques - C+ (pretty ordinary, though not as bad as everyone thinks). |
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28 Jun 2001, 09:28 (Ref:110669) | #9 | ||
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M.Schumacher - A (excellent, althought boring)
R.Barrichello - B- (good, but without motivation). M.Hakkinen - C -(almost lost). D.Coulthard - A+ (quick, motivated, aggressive). R.Schumacher - A+ (mature drive, quickness, motivation). Montoya - B- (quick, but not stable). J.Trulli - B (good qualifying, lots of bad luck in races). Frentzen - C (weak comparing his team mate). R.Zonta - B (good result without enough of fight practice) N.Heidfeld - B (promising, but not excellent). K.Raikkonen - A (mature drive of young unexperied racer). J.Villeneuve - C (weak performance for former WDC, not motivated). O.Panis - B (reminded to Villtneuve how to race). G.Fisichella - C (nothing realy impressive). J.Button - D (very poor drive for so widly advertised star). E.Irvine - A-(podium behind Jag is great achievement ). P.de La Rosa - C (nothing special). J.Verstappen - B (good performance for the car he has). E.Bernoldi - D (almoust innoticable if he takes a part or not). J.Alesi - B+ (great fighter and good driver). L.Burti - C (boring). Fernando - B+ (Doing a fantastic job for Minardi). T.Marques - D(very poor comparing to Alonso). |
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28 Jun 2001, 10:32 (Ref:110684) | #11 | ||
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Re: Half term grades
IMHO
M Schumacher ~A = has made it look easy all season R Barrichello ~C- = should be doing better with this car M Hakkinen ~F = seems to have lost interest &shows D Coulthard ~ A - = very quick and consistent performances R Schumacher ~A+- = challenging the head of the class is becoming a habbit J Montoya ~D = hasn't done enough but is able to shine G Fisichella ~ C+ = doing the best he can in that awful car J Button ~C- = thrashed by his team-mate regularly O Panis ~B = put Villeneuve in place more times than not J Villeneuve ~C+ = podium aside, a poor showing overall HH Frentzen ~C- = too many mistakes and just too slow J Trulli ~B+ = excellent qualifier, plucky racer J Verstappen ~B = sensational starts in his average car E Bernoldi ~D = totally off the pace in most races N Heidfeld ~B+ = very mature and a future star K Raikkonen ~A+ = beating Nick - revelation of season E Irvine ~B = working hard and grinding out results P de la Rosa ~C = Canada aside, very average F Alonso ~A = hauling his Minardi where it shouldn't be T Marques ~D = appalling driving consistently J Alesi ~B = finished every race, Jean still has it L Burti ~C+ = finishing races but not very quickly |
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28 Jun 2001, 11:38 (Ref:110713) | #13 | ||
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M. Schumacher - A = snooze...
R. Barrichello - D = A resounding lack of effort. M. Hakkinen - B = He keeps trying. D. Coulthard - A = Quicker than before. R. Schumacher - A = What can I say? J. Montoya - C = Mr. No Consistecny G. Fisichella = B - A sterling job in a rubbish car. J. Button - C = Outclassed by Fisi. O. Panis - B+ = Driving the socks off the BAR. J. Villeneuve - C = Outclassed by Olivier. H. Frentzen - B = Still as quick, just needs a reliable car. J. Trulli - B+ = Ditto. E. Bernoldi - C+ = Improving steadily. J. Verstappen - B = getting better and better every season. N. Heidfeld - B+ = Now he shows us what he can do. K. Raikkonen - A* = Flawless. E. Irvine - B = Making the effort to drag the Cat up. P. De La Rosa - C+ = Good showing so far. F. Alonso - A* = Just like Kimi - flawless. T. Marques - D = MUST do better. J. Alesi - A = F1's #1 reasserts his claim to the crown. L. Burti - B+ = Bloody good effort all round. Last edited by Minardi fan; 28 Jun 2001 at 11:42. |
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28 Jun 2001, 18:18 (Ref:110821) | #14 | ||
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DNQ, Jos crashes to much?? he only crashed twice once this season(and Canada was a brake failure)!! ,last year 1 spin(Hockenheim), and a few crashes because of meachanical failures(Nurburgring, suspension after beeing hit by Irvine-- Monaco Differential broken-- Indianapolis, Brakes).
So that 2 "own fault" crashes in 26 races.......... here's my list: Michael Schumacher A Rubens Barichello B-(to far behind his teammate) ---------------- Ralf Schumacher A Juan Pablo Montoya C+(getting better) -------- David Coulthard B+ Mika Hakkinen C- -------------- Jarno Trulli B- Heinz Harrald Frentzen C+ ------------------- Jaques Villeneuve C+ Oliver Panis B- ----------- Giancarlo Fisichella B Jenson Button D --------------- Jos Verstappen B+(but has to much bad luck) Enrique Bernoldi C(slowly getting better) ----------------------- Kimi Raikkonen B+ Nick Heidfeld B ------------------------- Eddie Irvine B Pedro de la Rosa B(but the team still can't make 2 fast cars) ------------------------ Fernando Alonso B+(but seems to be fading a litle the past races) Tarso Marques D(what is this guy doing in F1?) ------------------------ Jean Alesi B+(is there when he needs to be to pick up the points) Luciano Burti C(still has'nt impressed me, there are far better drivers without a seat) Last edited by steve nielsen; 28 Jun 2001 at 18:20. |
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28 Jun 2001, 19:45 (Ref:110853) | #15 | ||
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M.Schumacher - A
R.Barrichello - D M.Hakkinen - B D.Coulthard - A R.Schumacher - B J.Montoya - E G.Fisichella = B J.Button - B O.Panis - C J.Villeneuve - C H-H.Frentzen - C J.Trulli - C E.Bernoldi - B J.Verstappen - C N.Heidfeld - B K.Raikkonen - A E.Irvine - C P.de la Rosa - D F.Alonso - A T.Marques - F J.Alesi - C L.Burti - B G.Mazzacane - F R.Zonta - C |
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28 Jun 2001, 20:20 (Ref:110878) | #16 | ||
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Very strange views Hakkiman:
Bernoldi doing better than Verstappen??:confused: Button just as good as Fisco? Burti doing better than Alesi ??:confused: Hakkinen getting a B? (in that car he should be doing much better) |
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28 Jun 2001, 20:30 (Ref:110882) | #17 | ||
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Originally posted by Wrex
He got noticed at Monaco. Can Bernoldi swim though?? David was not sure...Michael and Aryton would have found out... |
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28 Jun 2001, 22:11 (Ref:110947) | #18 | |
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did anyone see autosport's rookie half term report? odd that fernando got an a-, and juan montoya only got a b- (i think)...
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29 Jun 2001, 01:13 (Ref:111006) | #19 | |
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Hakkiman - what's doing?
I'll list all the drivers you believe Jensen Button has been more impressive than this year: Barrichello, Montoya, Panis, Villeneuve, Frentzen, Trulli, Verstappen, Irvine, de La Rosa, Alesi, Marques, Mazzacane and Zonta. And apparently he's been as good as Ralf Schumacher (?), Hakkinen, Fisi, Bernoldi, Heidfeld and Burti. Now here's my list of guys Jensen has been more impressive than: ........... He's been less unimpressive than Bernoldi, Marques and Mazzacane. That's it. These are also the grades you mentioned which I can't believe: Barrichello - D Montoya - E Button - B Frentzen - C Trulli - C (haven't you been watching) Bernoldi (B) better than Verstappen? Irvine - C de La Rosa - D Burti (B) better than Alesi (C)? I just don't understand these. But then the world would be a boring place if everyone agreed. PS. Hakkiman, I'm glad you weren't my teacher. |
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29 Jun 2001, 21:43 (Ref:111277) | #21 | ||
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Barrichello will never be able to show what he can do while MS is still driver.
Bernoldi out qualified Jos 3 times or is it 4? Burti out qualified Alesi in first attempts. Button just as good as Fisi, its just Fisi had more time in a **** car. Montoya only impressed me once (Nurburgring). BAR (Panis and Villeneuve) have been disappointing. Trulli and Frentzen have done ok, but done better in previous years. Irv/Pedro - its a Jaguar, need i say more. Hakkinen still as good as when he won his 2 titles, just had bad luck. |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by hakkiman
Bernoldi out qualified Jos 3 times or is it 4? >> You don't get points for qualifying, Jos is past Bernoldi after 50 meters in the race and Enrique just can't keep up with Jos in the races... Burti out qualified Alesi in first attempts. >> Like I said, you don't get points for qualifying, if you're behind your teammate in the race it does'nt matter who outqualified who.... Button just as good as Fisi, its just Fisi had more time in a **** car. >>Sorry, but Button should be fighting with Fisichella and not with Alonso...... Hakkinen still as good as when he won his 2 titles, just had bad luck. >> why is he so far behind in qualifying lately?? |
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