Has Webber lost his bottle?

[mark_l]

First we had Mark Webber moaning about the relatively poor medical provision at F1 tests. Now he is moaning about safety during Monaco qualifying with the fear that drivers will back off and get hit from behind.

Top F1 stars are well paid to take risks, if the driver feels the risks are too great for him then he should retire.

I think Mark is just moaning to take the spotlight away from his poor performances in F1, he has been in F1 since 2002 and has not claimed a pole position or a race win.

[Dutton]

Hmmm. I would say both points he has raised are quite justified. He hasn't been "moaning" to my mind, but rather making perfectly reasonable comments.

He will compete regardless.

I guess it would be better if he never said anything or than pre-written statements provided by his team?

[kipper]

Originally Posted by mark_l

First we had Mark Webber moaning about the relatively poor medical provision at F1 tests. Now he is moaning about safety during Monaco qualifying with the fear that drivers will back off and get hit from behind.

Top F1 stars are well paid to take risks, if the driver feels the risks are too great for him then he should retire.

I think Mark is just moaning to take the spotlight away from his poor performances in F1, he has been in F1 since 2002 and has not claimed a pole position or a race win.

To be fair, Mark Webber isn't the only driver to complain about medical provision at tests; David Coulthard is another. With regard to Webber's complaints being a ruse to deflect attention from him not having taken a pole or won a race, I'd argue that given the machinery that Webber has had to date, then failing to do so is not a great surprise.

[strider]

The point you seem to be missing is that both Webber and Coulthard are directors of the GPDA and they are speaking on behalf of all the drivers, not specifically themselves.

[Kirk]

The drivers, I'm sure, feel it is their duty to point out what they feel is an unsafe condition. I think we get too complacent after watching these guys on TV, where everything looks so sanitzed and the cars look like they're just cruising around. The last thing we need is to not react to a safety concern until, God forbid, there is a bad accident or fatality. F1 is safer now then ever but improvements to safety should always be welcomed.

[Dutton]

Originally Posted by foxy mole

The point you seem to be missing is that both Webber and Coulthard are directors of the GPDA and they are speaking on behalf of all the drivers, not specifically themselves.

In which case it makes such comments all the more reasonable, IMHO.

[Bononi]

It's good to see Mark Webber taking the lead with the drivers demands, it proves that he has what many don't... an in this case his doing his job in GPDA very well.

[Mark Webber]

Its Marks job to point these things out and David as directors of the GPDA

and your comments in this taking the spot light from his poor performances
Marks efforts have been quite good in bad cars!

well mark_l maybe you have lost your bottle !

[Knowlesy]

Whilst I think the moans about Monaco are a little pointless (we've been racing there years for gawds sake) Mark has a duty to raise any issues that he personally feels are unsafe. If he doesn't, he is not doing his job properly.

I fail to see that this has anything to do with track performance.

[Pro Racer]

i dont think mark is raising these (fair arguments in my view)to take the spotlight of him not winning would shumi or fernando or kimi win in the car mark has been given i dont think so i think mark would do as good or pretty close to what shumi fernando andkimi if he was in there cars and i still think he would raise these issues.

[JABWOA]

IMHO, by raising the Monaco issue now, it can be properly addressed in the drivers briefing as opposed to some polite chats ala JV and Fisi. There have been quite a few reports about slower(ish) cars during qualifying thanks to the fuel burn credits and Monaco isn't a place to do it.

PS- Webber has only been with a "top" team for a year and a half, unlike some other winless drivers... (cheap shot, I know)

[Ryan_Briscoe1]

Originally Posted by mark_l

First we had Mark Webber moaning about the relatively poor medical provision at F1 tests. Now he is moaning about safety during Monaco qualifying with the fear that drivers will back off and get hit from behind.

Top F1 stars are well paid to take risks, if the driver feels the risks are too great for him then he should retire.

I think Mark is just moaning to take the spotlight away from his poor performances in F1, he has been in F1 since 2002 and has not claimed a pole position or a race win.

this post would be funny if mark_l wasnt being serious. its his job mate, how bout you stop webber bashing, he has done a good job this year, he has gotten everything out of that useless williams team, maybe u should be williams bashing rather the webber bashing, or even better just keep ur ridiculous comment to yourself.

[FPV GTHO]

I thought MW had left the GPDA? There was some report of that a while ago, yet lately theres still been alot of links with him still having an involvement.

[chunterer]

Yeah he's just doing a professional responsible job as a GPDA guy.

Give the guy a break, he's pretty much considered as one of the top men in the sport 9even though he hasn't got many decent results yet) but he's definitely one who would if his car lasted long enough on the circuits it likes!!

[Skam85]

Well done people, good to see no one took the bait and turned this into another Webber bashing thread. to mark_l -

He is just doing his job, and don't you worry, the results will come.

[Inigo Montoya]

This thread has no point but to bash Webber. Closed.