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Old 20 Nov 2004, 18:37 (Ref:1159364)   #1
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Days of Thunder renamed

The Days of Thunder series at Rockingham has been renamed to SCSA Racing. (Stock Car Speed Association). I must admit I like the name it slids off the tongue well, Unlike "Days of Thunder" which was at bit naff but did the job of bringing the series to life as it rode on the back of the film title which quite a few people knew about even though the film was "iffy"

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Old 20 Nov 2004, 19:03 (Ref:1159385)   #2
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They should call it American Racing Style European Circuit Automobile Racing.
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Old 20 Nov 2004, 19:14 (Ref:1159394)   #3
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But will it still be called ASCAR?
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Old 20 Nov 2004, 19:40 (Ref:1159408)   #4
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But will it still be called ASCAR?
ASCAR is totally dead as a name and has been officially all year.
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Old 20 Nov 2004, 19:44 (Ref:1159411)   #5
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They should call it American Racing Style European Circuit Automobile Racing.
MagnetON, your loss is a lot of other peoples intense pleasure. Have you ever been to Rockingham to see Oval racing and the family entertainment? Or, is your response an uninformed second/third hand biase?

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Old 20 Nov 2004, 20:00 (Ref:1159429)   #6
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Chigley: Pity you don't seem to have a sense of humour.
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Old 20 Nov 2004, 20:07 (Ref:1159432)   #7
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Probably the wrong forum, but anyway. How many different names is this now? Three at least, and I may have missed some...

Days of Thunder was pure cheese, though.
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Old 20 Nov 2004, 20:38 (Ref:1159454)   #8
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SCSA is a good idea, much better than Days of Thunder.

Time to rename this forum possibly, if ASCAR is dead.
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Old 20 Nov 2004, 20:41 (Ref:1159458)   #9
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Well it would be pointless calling it NASCAR & ASCAR.
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Old 21 Nov 2004, 16:48 (Ref:1160033)   #10
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Surely a simply more honest name would be BORING.........
I fall asleep watching it on TV let alone being there.
Oh dear one of the drivers has sneezed, lets have a full course yellow! No thanks, 10, 15 minute clubbies with full grids a la 750MC / HSCC @ Mallory Park for me.
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Old 21 Nov 2004, 21:34 (Ref:1160261)   #11
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I think it is good to drop the 'days of thunder' line. It made it not real in a way.
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Old 21 Nov 2004, 22:22 (Ref:1160311)   #12
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Surely a simply more honest name would be BORING.........
I fall asleep watching it on TV let alone being there.
Are you sure you are not watching F1.... and sleep!!!! At least DoT gets coverage on tv and there must be a reason for this. Perhaps you ought to try going there and getting involved, there'll be no time for sleeping!

We agree that Mallory Park does run good events with 750 Motor Club and British Super Bike meetings.
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Old 22 Nov 2004, 20:16 (Ref:1161123)   #13
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The last few races I saw at a 750mc meeting lead me to leave early (excluding the stock/hot hatchs/Vee's)and go and do other more useful things...now at an ASCAR/DOT or whatever-you have high speed good looking cars and women...what more would you want from a race meeting...plus possibly the uk's best run circuit to add!!!
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Old 22 Nov 2004, 21:27 (Ref:1161212)   #14
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I went to Boringham twice to marshal ' Days of Thunder & on both occasions the girlies wouldn't come out to play because it was wet, so we had endless Pick ups etc...dull as ditchwater.
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Old 22 Nov 2004, 21:36 (Ref:1161222)   #15
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ASCAR is totally dead as a name and has been officially all year.
Ahh we all know about "oficilly" (that was a typo, but I think I'll let it stand ) but returning to real life: DoT was pretty naff, but renaming to anything containing "Stock cars" will surely carry a message to UK audiences which is very different to the message which that would carry in the US?

Doubtless that is intentional (the management at Rockingham are not daft) but I wonder if the resultant re-positioning of the venue towards short circuit will achieve much for circuit racing?

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Old 23 Nov 2004, 23:26 (Ref:1162277)   #16
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I went to Boringham twice to marshal ' Days of Thunder & on both occasions the girlies wouldn't come out to play because it was wet, so we had endless Pick ups etc...dull as ditchwater.
Hi There.

New to this forum and following a thread from the SCSA site. Just have to ask why you found PTR boring?. IMHO it’s the most fantastic, close, fast, competitive racing that runs in all weather and never fails to impress.

Err.. you might have noticed I like pickups at Rockingham. Still each to there own. I have precious little experience of short ovals outside of Standlake so I guess I’ll await the flaming that I deserve.

Cheers, Ian. ;-)
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Old 24 Nov 2004, 13:29 (Ref:1162747)   #17
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The racing can be close and I guess the circuit is hoping to get even more spectators by changing the name.

I certainly know spectators who think it is an excellent day out and normally good value for money (unless there are extra charges for some of the bands, which then puts the price right up). However, I have also heard some people who are not into racing say they went on a wet day and saw nothing and will not go again.

I wish the series success and will probably marshal at a couple of meetings, depending on what they clash with.

However, I still don't think it is up to Eurocars at their height round Mallory. (No lake they can fly easily into). Still if they carry on expanding and get up to 40 cars, then they may be up to that standard.
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I went to Boringham twice to marshal ' Days of Thunder & on both occasions the girlies wouldn't come out to play because it was wet, so we had endless Pick ups etc...dull as ditchwater.
Have yo ever thought about the reason that Stock Cars and Indy style cars don't run in the wet on an oval. It is for safety reasons. Because of the constant high speeds the tyre would come apart after a few laps and the cars would be in the wall. Also hitting a damp patch on an oval is like hitting black ice.

As far as rained out DoT meetings are concerned I have only one occasion when the DoT cars couldn't race due to rain and that was June 2003 and I have marshalled every oval meeting at Rockingham
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Excuse me, this is England, in England it rains, Spring, Summer, Winter & Autumn, so why not leave the American style racing to the Americans where they have the climate for it. The 1st Champ Car race was a washout - an omen or what? In the early days I've twice not seen ASCAR @ Boringham because of the weather.
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Excuse me, this is England, in England it rains, Spring, Summer, Winter & Autumn, so why not leave the American style racing to the Americans where they have the climate for it. The 1st Champ Car race was a washout - an omen or what? In the early days I've twice not seen ASCAR @ Boringham because of the weather.
It rains in America as well. Also we had the first ever prupose built race track and that was an OVAL.

This season we did not lose a single race to weather. 30,000 fans on average cannot be wrong
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I dont like the new name, Days of Thunder was very easy for newcomers to grasp the concept of. Now it just sounds like every other race series.
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'Was going through that list myself. Didn't quite get to bowls though. I take my "flat cap" off to you ;-)

Just to correct one final point. The first CART race was not a washout. Much shorter than was wanted but they completed the race non the less and it was a sight and sound like no other in the UK, I would not have missed it for the world.

Still there's always F1. ohh is it time for my sunday afternoon nap again?
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I'm not againsy Oval racing per se, probably the best meeting I ever went to, was the 97 Indy Car race @ Nazareth, which was just awesome, but it strikes me we shouldn't be copying something that isn't suited to our climate. As for an average of 30.000 fans, don't delude yourself
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seems we have a few partisan opinions rising to the challenge. I basically like most car racing, and like to mix it up, and the Rock provides a different type to what we are used to over here. Yes its fast and dry weather only, but it is good racing and I've done many. Mallory is great too, and 750 nearly always put on a good show, as do Aston Martin, MG, Bentley, Jaguar, etc etc, in fact a lot of small clubs often produce the best race days. the bigger single seater series are very commercialised and run as a circus, but there is still some good racing, although maybe not always at the front. So, something for everybody at some point in the year, eh? As we've often said' there are too many meetings for the number of marshals available, so we get to pick and choose what we want to attend, don't we? So don't put the others down just because it's not our preference. We can all come out wiht biased statements and facts to support our case, but hey, life's too short, so whatever the race, break out a few tinnies and let's party anyway!!!!
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