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23 Mar 2017, 18:25 (Ref:3720948) | #1 | |
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Rounds 1,2,3 Brands Hatch Indy 2017
It that time of year again when the British touring car championship starts its 30 race championship. 32 cars.
Who will be 1st to put it in the gravel? Who will get pole for race 1? will the meeting past without a visit from the safety car/red flag? and who will leave Brands hatch with the points lead? all questions will be answered next weekend as its time for action |
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23 Mar 2017, 19:22 (Ref:3720957) | #2 | |
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It'll be a typical Brands Indy weekend...
I reckon we'll see some decent qualifying from the likes of Ingram, Taylor-Swift and Morgan but races ultimately won by the BMWs and Subarus. Honda will get stuck mid pack and will be down on straight line speed and despite much promotion by ITV4 in the build up, Vauxhall will DNF in a least two of the races and the drivers will have to resort to "we're treating this as an extended shakedown" cover ups in the interviews. We'll see far too much of Mrs Turkington and Louise Goodman will get someone's name/car/team wrong. |
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And Hondas winning R2 and R3 in 2015 was not a normal Brands Indy? And a Honda winning R1 and R2 in 2014? Last edited by crmalcolm; 23 Mar 2017 at 21:04. |
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and JP moaning about RWD start advantage ?
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I'm actually a Neal/Honda fan, but having to learn to accept that this year will be tough as I can't see them pushing the RWD teams unless there's been some pegging back. It's getting to a stage where a Honda win is hard fought (and occasionally dirty I agree), where the RWD wins seemed to be easy looking (usually crossing the line with a decent gap). *Waits patiently for crmalcolm to quote this post then edit it to his liking and provide a table of every Honda win with gaps to 2nd to suggest that they had it easy* |
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24 Mar 2017, 08:07 (Ref:3721079) | #7 | |
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I think that BMW will be the team to beat, especially Turks and Collard as Jordan will be struggling to match the pace of his team mates cause of lack of RWD experience. However my bold prediction is that Subaru will not be that strong as everyone thinks.
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24 Mar 2017, 08:59 (Ref:3721087) | #8 | ||
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I think the likely cool temperatures wont help the RWD teams. My money is on Honda and TIngram / Morgan to be at the front. Brands has never really been a RWD circuit.
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Austin has gone well round Brands Indy in Sherman before, and him and the Avensis seem to be going really well since the later parts of 2016 (Brands GP especially) so I reckon he could get an unlikely win, maybe from R3.
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24 Mar 2017, 10:22 (Ref:3721108) | #10 | ||
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What is a typical Brands Indy weekend?
From previous weekends, I would expect that to see Hondas run well, a new, or heavily re-developed car to surprise with a strong showing, and for one of the pre-season favourites to come away with little or no points. My own preference would be to see a Honda podium lock-out all weekend, but I fear that Simpson may only get on two of the three podiums (pipped by Chilton for the third). |
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P/No/Independent/Driver/Car/Laps/Gap 1. 52 (M) Gordon Shedden - Honda Civic Type R - Laps 26 2. 25 (M) Matt Neal - Honda Civic Type R - Laps 26 - Gap 0.848 3. 40 (I) Aron Smith - Volkswagen CC - Laps26 - Gap - 3.132 If I see the same result this season, I will join you in celebrating Honda success (in fact anything other than Plato on the podium and I'll be happy). Last edited by crmalcolm; 24 Mar 2017 at 10:34. Reason: Table layout |
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Agreed, I really hope Honda can make it 3 on the bounce but if not, as much as I dislike Turkington (I personally think he's overated) I really want to see him get his own back at Plato and royally show him up! |
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24 Mar 2017, 15:26 (Ref:3721201) | #14 | |
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They are showing the advert for the championship on ITV4 a lot. Can't wait. Can anyone topple Honda? Who will be the better RWD car? How will Vauxhall go? How will Team Parker do now with two experienced hands? And so much more
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Turkington overrated? Really?
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Where knockhill/oulton park have climbs out of a hairpin, and croft is flat, the drop at Brands also seems to negate RWD advantage in this area. I fear the prediction of problems for Honda on straights will be seen at Snetterton and Silverstone, and the RWDs will be strong at the tracks I mentioned above, but for the first weekend here's hoping we see Hondas at the top of the tree and Plato is the pre-season favourite who struggles. |
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Yep, I personally find him a bit dull, sure he's smooth and fairly clean, but too clinical, never seems like he's on the ragged edge. I hate how ITV mention his name every 5 seconds even if he's not in the lead. When you've drivers who can wrangle a great performance out of a car I find Colin's lack of hunger boring. Compared to guys like Shedden and Mat Jackson I just don't find him that exciting to watch.
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If the RWD's block out the top of the standings then we'll be lucky if Honda can keep it in the top 6. I reckon the best we can hope for is a reverse grid 1-2. This season is going to be about consistency and keeping in the points, something Matt Neal has managed quite well over the last few years. |
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24 Mar 2017, 19:39 (Ref:3721258) | #18 | ||
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I wouldn't be too concerned - Neal and Shedden usually find a way of getting past from McLaren into Clearways.
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He is, to the BTCC, what Ford are to the car industry. If you want flamboyance (Plato, Jackson, Shedden) buy an Alfa, if you want something that you know will do a job, be reliable, enjoyable and decent on the eye you get a Ford...or a Turkington in this case! |
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I bloody hope not!
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Nothing wrong with Colin's unhurried style. Anyway he does pull off some great overtaking moves time after time. And he managed to keep his cool when in the pack in his 2009 title.
Anyway it's not just the BTCC we've got to look forward to, let's also hope the support package is as good |
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I have two Alfas. That makes me deranged, not flamboyant...
As for Brands: I see Turks on R1 pole, with a Tingram close by. And a certain Mr Austin. Mr Rob Collard will qualify somewhere at the back and peddle like a madman to the front. Louise will go to the wrong side of at least one car when looking for the driver. I'm going to quit guessing whilst I'm ahead. N.B. utterly unrelated but drove the new new Honda this week. Nice motor 😀 Only 12 months 'till the stickered up racer... |
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