Picture Trivia 2 - a New Challenge

TimD · 21 Mar 2001, 20:36 (Ref:73377)

Right, how about this strange little beastie?

Can you identify this car, and for a bonus, can you tell me which World Drivers Champion used it in his early racing days?

Any interesting information about the car's construction would also be useful.

Go for it!

Speed Demon · 21 Mar 2001, 20:58 (Ref:73388)

Well, given the blue and white colour scheme, I would suggest that this is an Ecurie Ecosse car - and therefore I think the driver would have been a certain John Young Stewart.

As for the make I'm on less solid ground... could be an AC, could be a Lister. I'm sure I've got a picture of JYS driving it - somewhere...

SL · 21 Mar 2001, 22:01 (Ref:73408)

I'm pretty sure the car is a Lotus. An Elite I think, I have a photo somewhere but cannot locate it tonight.

Jackie Stewart might well have raced it but it is more likly to by Jim Clark, Ecosse team. 59 / 60. Car was built from the new fangled Glass Reinforced Plastic. Could hve been the car that finished 10 at Le Mans 59 Clark / Whitman.

Simon

Sparky · 21 Mar 2001, 22:14 (Ref:73413)

I'm thinking Marcos, and 'construction' would consist of plywood, glassfibre and anything else Jem Marsh had to hand!

As to the driver...

...I dunno. James Hunt?

Marshal · 21 Mar 2001, 22:50 (Ref:73423)

Sparky gets the prize definitely the original plywood monocoque Marcos, but I have a feeling SL has correctly identified the future World Champion who peddled it. The unual shape was designed by Frank Costin (the Cos of Marcos) and partner to Jem Marsh (the Mar) before Marsh bought him out.

SL · 21 Mar 2001, 22:56 (Ref:73424)

If it is a Marcos then the driver would have been J. Stewart or D Bell. Both drivers champs of various formulee, both drove the wooden wonders.

I must admit the badge on the front looks Marcos. The construction could be either early Chapman or any Marsh creation. Glue, GRP and luck.

Simon

djb · 22 Mar 2001, 03:22 (Ref:73504)

Very interesting, didn't know that the de Havilland Mosquito school of engineering made it to cars-not at this time anyhow- that's if it IS a Marcos woody...

I have been looking at it and trying to see what it resembles, not to much avail; a strange beastie indeed.
It has the (sort of) semblance of a hard top E-type that someone stuck a big straw into the the cabin and blew very hard, stomped on the bonnet and did all kinds of funny things to the front end.

cheers, David (oh, and happy spring-tomorrow they've announced another 10cm, will it ever end?)

Speed Demon · 22 Mar 2001, 21:18 (Ref:73698)

Sparky, you're spot on - it is a Marcos, I'm sure of it now. WDC driver? Still going for Stewart...

SL · 22 Mar 2001, 21:35 (Ref:73706)

Easy Peasy.

Marcos Zylon, raced by Jackie Stewart among others. Wood chassis GRP body. Ford 105E engine. Still raced today. Commonly known as the 'ugly duckling'.......wonder why.

Simon

Sparky · 22 Mar 2001, 22:00 (Ref:73714)

Close, SL! It's the Xylon

SL · 22 Mar 2001, 22:10 (Ref:73726)

Sparky,

Well OK then X Y Z whatever, we will just have to split the case of Moet Magnums that Tim put up for the winner.

Tim next please.

Simon

Sparky · 22 Mar 2001, 22:15 (Ref:73727)

Right-o Simon. I got 'Marcos' and 'Plywood' - you got 'Xylon' and 'JYS'! Half a case each!

Viceroy Dudley - a fresh challenge if you please!

Marshal · 22 Mar 2001, 23:08 (Ref:73760)

Excuse me, I thought it was me that had Marcos and JYS in the same answer first

. Tell you what Tim we'll go for a jeriboam and split it 3 ways...

Sparky · 22 Mar 2001, 23:27 (Ref:73768)

Er... four ways

Speed Demon mentioned JYS first!

Actually, I got 'Marcos' and Plywood' in the same post first, so I win!!

The driver was the bonus!! Tee Hee!!

I win... I win...

Marshal · 22 Mar 2001, 23:37 (Ref:73771)

Pah! Beaten by a lousy 36 minutes. I'll get you next time

TimD · 23 Mar 2001, 00:41 (Ref:73787)

*hic*

Delicious champagne this...

You've all done extremely well. It is indeed the plywood Marcos, driven at Charterhall by Jackie Stewart on May 1st 1962.

Now, tomorrow's picture is going to be a little different - assuming I can find where I've put it!

**Peter Mallett** · 23 Mar 2001, 03:35 (Ref:73817)

I haven't read any responses to this but I expect its already been stated as a Marcos as driven by JYS. All pltwood chassis and very weird.

Hans.ca · 23 Mar 2001, 16:28 (Ref:73922)

There was a Marcos in Canada, I think it was a later open top model. Still glue and plywood only. It rolled end over end and sideways a few times at Harewood Acers at the entrance to the chicane. The driver ended up straped to his seat sitting in the midle of the track while the car disintigrated totally. I used to have a picture of the driver sitting there but it is gone now. It was published in the G&M so perhaps I can find it in my files.

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