Times up!

Marbot · 6 Sep 2004, 20:09 (Ref:1088450)

Just read set of 3 proposed packages and covering fax on fia.com interesting!

**Adam43** · 6 Sep 2004, 20:17 (Ref:1088455)

Well 6 September was the day for this.

They are trying to get through a couple of safety issues quickly on top of all the other aero and engine suggestions. These have been muted before, but are quite interesting.

Firstly they want to decrease the minimum wieght to reduce the kinetic energy in a crash. I find this very intreging and, I think, a fairly unique situation.

They also want to cut down the shards and reduce the materials and components that can shatter. This was seriously sugeested only a couple of weeks ago IIRC, but it would be good if they got this through.

Marbot · 6 Sep 2004, 20:23 (Ref:1088462)

Materials and components that can shatter = carbon fibre,it's a whole new ball game(sorry).

**Adam43** · 6 Sep 2004, 20:29 (Ref:1088465)

http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press...060904-02.html I wonder why they chose that magenta colour?

The three packages, which may be mixed are generally:

Package 1.
Front bodywork changes.
Engine constraints on physical dimensions and position of cylinders, crank and mountings.

Package 2.
Rear bodywork changes.
Aerodynamic deflection test.

Package 3.
Moving forward the reference plane limits.
Ban on barge boards.
2.4l engines with 8 cylinders.
Constrict constraints on engine supply.

Marbot · 6 Sep 2004, 20:34 (Ref:1088468)

Quote:

Originally posted by AdamAshmore
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press...060904-02.html I wonder why they chose that magenta colour?

Surely you don't think....

**Adam43** · 6 Sep 2004, 20:39 (Ref:1088471)

Quote:

To be accompanied by a sporting rule that no team may use an engine which is not available free of charge and on a fully competitive basis to a number of other teams equal to or greater than the number of teams entered in the Championship divided by the number of different makes of engine in use, rounded up to the nearest whole number.

The supplier of each such engine (or its parent company when deemed appropriate by the FIA) would be required to give a binding undertaking to the FIA that it would not cease supply without first giving written notice during the year preceding its last full year of participation.

Ouch! And can't just cut and run.

Marbot · 6 Sep 2004, 20:44 (Ref:1088473)

Does that apply to all 3 packages?

**Adam43** · 6 Sep 2004, 20:46 (Ref:1088474)

Quote:

Originally posted by martyn bott
Just read set of 3 proposed packages and covering fax on fia.com interesting!

I love how it starts

Quote:

Gentleman...

I thought it was to the team bosses

T0MAT01 · 6 Sep 2004, 20:47 (Ref:1088475)

Odd clause that one, why should Ford pour millions into Cosworth when theres a possibility of Ferrari engines free of charge!

Also, whats the idea behind banning a wankel engine?

Marbot · 6 Sep 2004, 21:08 (Ref:1088497)

A Ferrari powered Jaguar,hmmm.

Sultan · 6 Sep 2004, 23:28 (Ref:1088641)

Quote:

Originally posted by martyn bott
A Ferrari powered Jaguar,hmmm.

It actually has happened before - or was it a Jaguar powered Ferrari? I think it in the '50s', however can't remember the details.....

Mr V · 6 Sep 2004, 23:28 (Ref:1088642)

Tomato, just how did you get past the auto-censor?

Marbot · 7 Sep 2004, 00:05 (Ref:1088666)

How come you can have wankel but not female dog?!Ain't it a *****.

RWC · 7 Sep 2004, 02:19 (Ref:1088700)

As usual for the fia- some interesting ,usefull measures mixed in with total rubbish that simply deepens the hole that formula none is in these days

Nothing but a complete rehash of everything is needed in the long term

Fuzzyfelt · 7 Sep 2004, 03:21 (Ref:1088722)

quote
'...a change in relative wheel widths front to rear'

Does this mean we get fat rear and skinny front tyres back?

Marbot · 7 Sep 2004, 11:21 (Ref:1088915)

This may be required to balance the cars .

**Adam43** · 7 Sep 2004, 12:36 (Ref:1088968)

If they keep the rule requiring the front and rear to be he same compound/construction this could have a big difference on the car. As will the change in weight distribution by the lack of ballast.

Let's hope they don't turn into a load of understeering pigs. Although, of course, teams will apapt - maybe less rear wing and different suspension configurations.

T0MAT01 · 7 Sep 2004, 14:50 (Ref:1089154)

Quote:

To be accompanied by a sporting rule that no team may use an engine which is not available free of charge and on a fully competitive basis to a number of other teams equal to or greater than the number of teams entered in the Championship divided by the number of different makes of engine in use, rounded up to the nearest whole number.

Quote:

Originally posted by martyn bott
Does that apply to all 3 packages?

No just to the package containing the change to V8 engines.

Apparently Max Mosley will appear in a press conference at Monza this Friday.
Maybe he'll let us know how the TWG's meeting went on Monday.

I think package 2 is the easy option for most teams, though they are allowed to mix between them.

Marbot · 7 Sep 2004, 15:16 (Ref:1089165)

I think the TWG meeting is next monday.

Marbot · 7 Sep 2004, 15:19 (Ref:1089170)

Not seen anything about tyre regs yet,but i think they come under sporting regulations.

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