Petit Le Mans 2012 Entry list discussion/speculation

Deleted · 20 Jul 2012, 17:07 (Ref:3109150)

Let's start this off early. So for this year no ILMC/WEC obviously, but ELMS have just confirmed double points & financial assistance for teams travelling to Road Atlanta. We'll have automatic entries up for grab in ALMS and ELMS championships, and teams can also win an entry by clinching victory in any of the ACO classes. Fantastic!

So let's make an early, speculative list of the entries (that will no doubt look funny in three months time):

P1
1x Cytosport HPD ARX
1-2x Dyson Lola Mazda
??? Toyota, Audi, Rebellion, Autocon, any other ???

P2
2x Level 5 HPD ARX
1x Conquest Oak Pesca
0-1x Dempsey Lola
0-2x Oak Racing Oak Pesca
0-1x TDS Oreca
0-1x Murphy Oreca
0-1x Loeb Oreca
0-1x Pecom Oreca
0-1x Greaves Zytek
0-1x Jota Zytek
0-1x Status GP Lola
? Boutsen Oreca
? Race Performance Oreca
? Extreme Limite Norma
? Libra Radical
? Starworks HPD ARX

GT
2x P&M Corvette C6.R
2x SRT Viper
2x ESM Ferrari
2x RLL BMW
2x Lizards Porsche
1x Falken Porsche
1x Paul Miller Porsche
1x AJR Lotus
0-1x IMSA Porsche (GTE-AM)
0-1x AF Corse Ferrari (GTE-AM)
0-1x JMW Ferrari
? JMB Ferrari
? Prospeed Porsche (GTE-AM)
? Risi Ferrari
? Krohn Ferrari
? AMR / Fernandes Vantage

Add LMPC and GTC later on

Oh and could some of the mods add ALMS tag to the thread topic, thanks

lms · 20 Jul 2012, 17:28 (Ref:3109162)

I like this list a lot.

Deleted · 20 Jul 2012, 17:29 (Ref:3109163)

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Originally Posted by lms

I like this list a lot.

Of course, apart from the regular ALMS entries it's pure speculation at this point

Victor_RO · 20 Jul 2012, 17:29 (Ref:3109164)

Autosport published a rumour that Oreca were thinking of entering as a factory P2 entrant with one car in order to showcase it to the ALMS market. I suspect that with recent developments, that plan's on the back burner if enough Orecas make the trip and show themselves to be competitive.

Deleted · 20 Jul 2012, 17:42 (Ref:3109169)

Assuming that some of the ELMS teams actually turn up (which I think they will) I hope they score them in the same class as the ALMS entries. Sebring was a confusing, idiotic mess with 300 separate categories and sub divisions for cars from different series. Thankfully this isn't WEC and FIA-land though, so we'll probably handle this like in previous years, ie integrate everything.

Automatic invites also mean that youy really cannot have too much separation

Speed-King · 20 Jul 2012, 17:46 (Ref:3109170)

Eh, the Dagys article says that the ELMS teams will score points separately...

Edit: Wasn't Dagy's but rather Endurance Info:

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Un classement spécifique sera mis en place pour les concurrents des deux séries ce qui permettra de finaliser les deux championnats et de désigner les équipes invitées aux 24 Heures du Mans 2013.

pablocomics · 20 Jul 2012, 17:46 (Ref:3109171)

You´re forgetting about Gulf Racing and their Aston Martin

Victor_RO · 20 Jul 2012, 17:47 (Ref:3109173)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Eh, the Dagys article says that the ELMS teams will score points separately...

The logical thing would be scoring the points separately, but awarding automatic Le Mans invites to the top (or top two) P2 team(s) overall (combined).

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Originally Posted by pablocomics

You´re forgetting about Gulf Racing and their Aston Martin

That car was only supposed to come out at the Aston Martin Festival race at Le Mans, and it didn't even race there (someone crashed into it and shoved a driveshaft into the gearbox).

The Badger · 20 Jul 2012, 17:49 (Ref:3109175)

I like the sound of this . Road Atlanta sounds like it will be a blast this year .

Like to see some praise for the ACO for trying to do this , after all the negitive comments from across the pond before .

Koenigsegg · 20 Jul 2012, 18:34 (Ref:3109187)

I thought AJR said some time ago that they might increase to 2 cars (Lotus) for Petit.

Gingers4Justice · 20 Jul 2012, 18:35 (Ref:3109188)

A few ELMS teams must be rubbing their hands with glee at the potential overall podium here.

Who knows, a slightly whacky race could even lead to an outwright victory.

The racing will be out of this world. If only they slowed down the P1 cars and made it one big prototype category - half the grid would have a chance of victory!

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jul 2012, 18:36 (Ref:3109189)

Entry list looks like a glorified ALMS race...P1 looks bleak and GT looks phenomenal. Fingers crossed we'll have some of the international entries, but won't hold my breath for three months.

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I like the sound of this . Road Atlanta sounds like it will be a blast this year .

Don't see how it'll be anywhere close to last year, but here's hoping I'll have a blast for the 12th year in row

And hoping the torrential rain stays away.

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Like to see some praise for the ACO for trying to do this , after all the negitive comments from across the pond before .

Who's made those comments?

I'll praise whomever comes to my backyard to race!

NightStalk3r · 20 Jul 2012, 19:06 (Ref:3109203)

Prospeed wont be there, the car is done after the smash at Le Mans.

Victor_RO · 20 Jul 2012, 19:07 (Ref:3109204)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Prospeed wont be there, the car is done after the smash at Le Mans.

Really? That big of a shunt?

(I may be unfair here, but prince al-Faisal crashed it and he has enough money, so he should have paid for a new chassis...)

Deleted · 20 Jul 2012, 19:13 (Ref:3109209)

They were on the Donington entry list for quite a long time before they withdrew so I was quite hoping to see them again soon. Shame nevertheless, I didn't think the crash was that bad

Articus · 20 Jul 2012, 20:09 (Ref:3109220)

What is to stip Toyota from entering Petit Lemans instead of some remote race in Bahrain where sponsors get offended and viewership will be low. Petit is looking like a hoot this year. It has alot of marketing potential for them...Vs a race in Bahrain...
America vs Bahrain...You do the math haha.

Toyota has nothing to lose in the WEC anyway. They have already lost. Its good for them to do the other rounds but Bahrain doesnt seem high on the priority least.

They could run 1 car at Petit. Im certain Toyota North America is looking around for an excuse to promote the brand in NA.

Deleted · 20 Jul 2012, 20:23 (Ref:3109226)

Agreed but ACO/FIA wouldn't like that move very much... not that they could really do anything as they're way too scared of losing them (again).

It would be the ideal race for Toyota, not only the third biggest event of the sportscar calendar but also a great place for Toyota to see if there's any sense in running the cars in NA. And if they entered for sure we could se Audi returning as well. It's not like there's any championship at stake anymore, well there never was after the certain announcement...

The only problem is the close proximity of the Fuji and Shanghai weekends but it's not like either of these participants have problems with cash or logistics

Coach Ep · 20 Jul 2012, 20:50 (Ref:3109239)

Petit could be something like the unofficial P2 end-of-season World Cup if the majority of the ELMS teams decide to go there. With double points on offer, there's still everything to play for!

That raises the question: what if most of/all ELMS runners decide to turn up at the Petit, will there be enough space on the grid with around 35 ALMS regulars?

Duff_44 · 20 Jul 2012, 22:38 (Ref:3109272)

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Originally Posted by Articus

What is to stop Toyota from entering Petit Lemans

A very important 6 hour race at Fuji - a track Toyota owns - 6 days prior to PLM.

Deleted · 20 Jul 2012, 22:52 (Ref:3109274)

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Originally Posted by Duff_44

A very important 6 hour race at Fuji - a track Toyota owns - 6 days prior to PLM.

It took just 4 days for Aston Martin to ship & prep their LMP1 from Silverstone to Laguna Seca last year... they were already testing the car on track @ thursday, having just contested 6 hour race on previous Sunday

FordCosworthPanoz · 20 Jul 2012, 23:07 (Ref:3109277)

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Originally Posted by Articus

What is to stip Toyota from entering Petit Lemans instead of some remote race in Bahrain where sponsors get offended and viewership will be low. Petit is looking like a hoot this year. It has alot of marketing potential for them...Vs a race in Bahrain...
America vs Bahrain...You do the math haha.

.

Actually, Toyota has a very large potential market in areas of civil unrest.

Articus · 20 Jul 2012, 23:32 (Ref:3109281)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Actually, Toyota has a very large potential market in areas of civil unrest.

Articus · 20 Jul 2012, 23:36 (Ref:3109285)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duff_44

A very important 6 hour race at Fuji - a track Toyota owns - 6 days prior to PLM.

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Originally Posted by Chiana

It took just 4 days for Aston Martin to ship & prep their LMP1 from Silverstone to Laguna Seca last year... they were already testing the car on track @ thursday, having just contested 6 hour race on previous Sunday

Fair. But its probably that Toyota will be rolling out two new chassis fresh from Cologne for the Fuji weekend.

They could run one of the test cars at Petit. The only issue being it would be very embarrassing to not win Petit if they enter and there are no Audis.

Maybe it won't happen, but, as you can tell, I really want it to happen.

Deleted · 20 Jul 2012, 23:41 (Ref:3109288)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Actually, Toyota has a very large potential market in areas of civil unrest.

That's just one of the re-branded ACO trucks carrying visitors to the circuit...

Articus · 21 Jul 2012, 00:06 (Ref:3109292)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

That's just one of the re-branded ACO trucks carrying visitors to the circuit...

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