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Old 28 Nov 2002, 21:59 (Ref:439057)   #1
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Will Schumacher end up doing a Hill?

I do respect him, regardless if the rest of you do or not. And I don't want him to go on too long and end his career embarassing himself like Damon Hill did in 1999. Can you imagine Rubens Barrichello outperforming Schumacher at places like Suzuka? Well, it could happen if Schumacher goes on too long.
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Old 28 Nov 2002, 22:17 (Ref:439071)   #2
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Re: Will Schumacher end up doing a Hill?

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I do respect him, regardless if the rest of you do or not. And I don't want him to go on too long and end his career embarassing himself like Damon Hill did in 1999. Can you imagine Rubens Barrichello outperforming Schumacher at places like Suzuka? Well, it could happen if Schumacher goes on too long.
Actually, I would love to see him do something like Damon did in 1997 with Aroows.

Imagine Schumacher ending his carreer driving for Minardi for 2-3 years, maybe winning 2 or 3 races in his last season, and bringing Minardi to the sub-top ...
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Old 28 Nov 2002, 22:28 (Ref:439080)   #3
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Old 28 Nov 2002, 23:08 (Ref:439096)   #4
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not in a million years... i expect schumacher to know when enough is enough and quit before losing total motivation like damon did in 99
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 00:02 (Ref:439113)   #5
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 00:41 (Ref:439118)   #6
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MS wouldn't go to Minardi. They couldn't pay him enough. If he went to Ferrari for the challenge not the money like he claimed, now that Ferrari's dominant and he's got back-to-back championships he should be looking for a new challenge.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 02:28 (Ref:439138)   #7
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I would like to see MS move out of Ferrari and into a another team in his twilight years.

It would have to be a team that would not be a contender for the championship and a team that had some history. eg...Minardi.

Yes, I would like that very much. He would not need to be paid a salary - just expenses and he can keep his personal sponsorship $$$$.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 05:42 (Ref:439199)   #8
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then it will give him an excuse for him to do badly!

good for minardi financially and TGF egotistically
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 06:38 (Ref:439205)   #9
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Will he become a team owner one day. Hell he could buy out a few of the f1 teams on the grid right now.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 07:57 (Ref:439218)   #10
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Re: Re: Will Schumacher end up doing a Hill?

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Actually, I would love to see him do something like Damon did in 1997 with Aroows.

Imagine Schumacher ending his carreer driving for Minardi for 2-3 years, maybe winning 2 or 3 races in his last season, and bringing Minardi to the sub-top ...
You people are living in a freakin dream world...any one who actually belives that Shumacher could finish any better than last in a Minardi is kidding themselves....it's alllll about the car people!! Drivers don't make any difference anymore unless it's to do with overtaking or defending a position...and we all know that is very rare in today's F1! God I would love to see Shumi in a Minardi tooling around at the very back of the pack doing nothing with his so called talent!
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 08:24 (Ref:439231)   #11
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it's alllll about the car people!!
No. It's all about team. And drivers DO make difference. Noone really believes that you put Schumacher in a Minardi and he would win straight away. But in 3 years they will be in the cards, regularily getting points perhaps even a win or two.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 08:53 (Ref:439238)   #12
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i cant see Schumi ending up doind a Hill or even a Irvine !.....i think he is more focused than them , and if he's got any sense he will relise when to get out before the day comes when he looks average .
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 08:58 (Ref:439241)   #13
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I for one would LOVE to see him in a minardi!!!!!!!!
Yes,he wouldn't get past midfield but wouldn't it be awsome to see him ring the neck of that old dunger car on the ragged edge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 09:32 (Ref:439260)   #14
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Doing a hill I doubt it more like a JV
What ever MS drives he'll be the best to drive it
and that's a long way away
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 10:54 (Ref:439287)   #15
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God I would love to see Shumi in a Minardi tooling around at the very back of the pack doing nothing with his so called talent!
Don't we already have an ex-WDC doing that now?

It's not totally ludicrous for Michael to pull of a win in a Minardi. He just could'nt do it on talent alone.

Micheals name on the side of the car would attact $$$, and plenty of them. It would also attract staff. With Michael's talent and those dollars and people, and a touch of luck and it's not that silly anymore. I seem to remember an Arrows at Hungry getting close once.

But anyone that thinks any driver, past or present, could instantly drive a Minardi to victory, thats crazy.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 11:16 (Ref:439302)   #16
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I would like to see MS bow out with one season in a lower team...Sauber is the most obvious choice.

Just a nice, quiet year to bow out, enjoy driving, and give some else a chance to win
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 12:31 (Ref:439351)   #17
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 12:44 (Ref:439362)   #18
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I see TGF leaving at the top of his game.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 13:19 (Ref:439384)   #19
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He's going to be at it for a good few years yet, but he's sensible enough to know when he'll be done - he's already achieved more than anybody could want in a career...

Personally I wouldn't want to see Minardi win with anyone - it takes away the thrill of rooting for the underdog - the day Minardi win is the day they sell out against the fans and become a professional racing outfit...
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 13:29 (Ref:439392)   #20
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I'd hardly call that a sell-out!

I know what you mean though, we love them because they are the underdog. It would be a very special day indeed, and I for one would be overwhelmed.

I was blown-away with the 5th in Australia
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He'll go at the right time, of that I am convinced. People can dream about him going to another team, but it isn't ever going to happen.

I have thought in the past of say Michael joining Minardi for a couple of years, driving for nothing and providing them with the sponsorship money he would take with him. Perhaps he would be able to take a Ferrari engine or two with him, as a leg up. Then he tootles about, seeing what he can and, perhaps more pertinently, cannot do. Then he would return to Ferrari for one more year, and do his best to grab one last title before calling it a day.

Anyway, in terms of reality. He'll go until the end of '06 I reckon, because Byrne/Brawn/Todt etc will agree to a two year extension before retiring. Then Michael will join them in that aim, and retire having achieved a most ridiculous amount during his career as an F1 driver.

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Old 29 Nov 2002, 16:21 (Ref:439474)   #22
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Will Schumacher end up doing a Hill?

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No. It's all about team. And drivers DO make difference. Noone really believes that you put Schumacher in a Minardi and he would win straight away. But in 3 years they will be in the cards, regularily getting points perhaps even a win or two.
For possibly the first time ever I agree with you Red! The driver can and does make a hell of a difference. A car can certianly be a key factor in a title winning package but it takes the right driver to use that package to its full potential.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 20:38 (Ref:439600)   #23
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You people are living in a freakin dream world...any one who actually belives that Shumacher could finish any better than last in a Minardi is kidding themselves....it's alllll about the car people!! Drivers don't make any difference anymore unless it's to do with overtaking or defending a position...and we all know that is very rare in today's F1! God I would love to see Shumi in a Minardi tooling around at the very back of the pack doing nothing with his so called talent
When asked about this very thing, Montoya said that the most a Michael could do was move a Minardi up one or two spots on the grid. The driver means that little to modern F1..Sure some are better than others, but unlike the old days a top notch driver cannot drag a **** car to the front..
Where they say it used to be 80% diver and 20% car those roles are reversed now.
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Old 29 Nov 2002, 21:04 (Ref:439615)   #25
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I don't know strad. Remember that Schu comes with his diciples Brawn, Byne and Todt, plus the added cash that having Schu in the team would bring. Given a few years schu would have the exact same package in place just in a different colour. It wouldn't be the driver dragging the team up though it would be the Schu package.
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