DTM 2009: News, Rumours, Entries, ...

gwyllion · 28 Nov 2008, 14:46 (Ref:2343308)

No more Futurecom and no new drivers at Audi.

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Development of the 2008 championship winning DTM car

Audi competes in the DTM as defending champions with a development of the 2008 championship winning car and with an ambitious target: Audi aims to be the first automobile manufacturer in the history of the "new" DTM to win the title three times in succession.

The DTM version of the new A4, which set the standards during the 2008 season with eight pole positions and six victories, is optimised in every area and carries the project name "R14 plus" internally.

Four new A4 cars and up to five 2008 cars will be fielded by the proven teams Abt Sportsline, Phoenix and Rosberg. Audi also relies on known quantities for its driver squad: Every driver will be recruited from the driver line-up seen in action during the 2008 season in the DTM and R10 TDI.

source: Audi Sport

werner · 28 Nov 2008, 15:10 (Ref:2343325)

Mercedes is testing at Zandvoort at them moment. Yesterday Green and Paffet tested, today some potential young drivers are supposed to drive the cars. I'm sure the names will pop up on the internet soon.

Source: www.autosport.nl

**BertMk2** · 28 Nov 2008, 15:13 (Ref:2343327)

Well that's half the grid sorted out then! Have Mercedes got any drivers confirmed for next season? I guess Spengler, Di Resta (if he's not in F1), Green, Paffet, Stoddart, Schumacher, Lauda and Engel are all "likely" to return along with 1 other to replace Schneider - so who gets the last seat and who gets the new cars?

werner · 28 Nov 2008, 15:31 (Ref:2343335)

Every driver will be recruited from the driver line-up seen in action during the 2008 season in the DTM and R10 TDI

Note that all the drivers must have been in an Audi last year, but not nescesarily in the DTM-Audi. In thory that could mean a return of McNish or Capello.

Bramzel · 28 Nov 2008, 15:34 (Ref:2343337)

Or Fässler, wouldn't be suprised to see him back. And what about Albers?

**FIRE** · 28 Nov 2008, 15:42 (Ref:2343345)

Kolles (Futurecom) will run VW powered cars in Euroseries F3 next season.

werner · 28 Nov 2008, 15:42 (Ref:2343346)

Faessler did pretty well in FIA GT last year IIRC. I don't know if he has a contract for next year. Although if so, I'm sure he has an option to get out of it when he can race in the probably much higher paying DTM.

gwyllion · 28 Nov 2008, 17:04 (Ref:2343408)

My quick gamble for Audi line up: Ekström, Scheider, Tomczyk, Premat in 2009 car and Fässler, Jarvis, Rockenfeller, Winkelhock, Legge in 2008 car. Kristensen retiring from DTM...

helgi · 2 Dec 2008, 08:42 (Ref:2345458)

Will there be any two-year-old Mercs? I'm afraid Susie is going to have another 'season to forget'.

stedevil · 2 Dec 2008, 10:06 (Ref:2345522)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Premat Fässler, Jarvis, Rockenfeller, Winkelhock

I' be very surprised if not one of those names would be replaced by Alberts.

Aslak Vind · 2 Dec 2008, 10:17 (Ref:2345536)

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Originally Posted by helgi

Will there be any two-year-old Mercs? I'm afraid Susie is going to have another 'season to forget'.

No I doubt that, same procedure as this year.

Aslak Vind · 2 Dec 2008, 10:19 (Ref:2345538)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

Well that's half the grid sorted out then! Have Mercedes got any drivers confirmed for next season? I guess Spengler, Di Resta (if he's not in F1), Green, Paffet, Stoddart, Schumacher, Lauda and Engel are all "likely" to return along with 1 other to replace Schneider - so who gets the last seat and who gets the new cars?

Paffett will probably take up the last 09 car, he has already been testing the mule together with Green.

Aslak Vind · 2 Dec 2008, 10:57 (Ref:2345573)

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Originally Posted by stedevil

I' be very surprised if not one of those names would be replaced by Alberts.

Winkelhock will continue if his mainsponsor Hugo Boss will. If not, he has his lastname to work for him..

**BertMk2** · 2 Dec 2008, 11:20 (Ref:2345598)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Paffett will probably take up the last 09 car, he has already been testing the mule together with Green.

So if Di Resta stays in DTM then the 09 cars would be for Di Resta, Paffet, Green and Spengler? I would have thought there would have to have been a German driver in one of the new cars for purely marketing reasons?

helgi · 2 Dec 2008, 11:26 (Ref:2345600)

I've heard Schumacher will stay only if he gets a 09spec car. And if Di Resta doesn't get any seat at GP or GP2 series,Mercedes will have to make 5 new cars.
Besides, no Mugello next year,and Dijon instead Bugatti.
I've seen French GT at Dijon at MotorsTV. It's going to be the fastest track in the year. And more interesting.

werner · 2 Dec 2008, 12:26 (Ref:2345623)

Dijon is also much closer to Germany.

stedevil · 2 Dec 2008, 12:43 (Ref:2345629)

Paffet naturally deserves a 09 car, on merit, but if he will get one depends if Merc will let him in from the dog house (crossing Haug and try make your own F1 plans is dangerous). And no Germans in the Merc top lineup for sure would be a difficult sell in both boardrooms and to the public. However if Di Resta can get a seat in F1 already 09 (the recent McL - Force India deal could provide just that) Paffets chances of getting a car he deserves increase a whole lot.

helgi · 2 Dec 2008, 18:10 (Ref:2345827)

If Gary doesn't get a new car next season,I don't want to watch this show any more. I prefer fair play. And every year DTM makes a step far from where it was in 2000,when there were some fair action with great cars.
There's no real sport in popular series and champs. Real racing lives in national series - GT or F3. I don't think LMS is so popular to name it as a 'show',so it's racing too.
Today if series bosses want to collect lots of spectators they transform racing into show.
But it's a very difficult question. If bosses want to have some Racing without elements of show,they won't get any advertising,spectators and money. So,it should be well balanced. In DTM it's getting worse every year.

stedevil · 2 Dec 2008, 19:31 (Ref:2345868)

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Originally Posted by helgi

If Gary doesn't get a new car next season,I don't want to watch this show any more.

Yeah, IMO, if he still doesnt get a proper car next year, he should just give Haug the finger and switch to Audi.

Valenok · 3 Dec 2008, 07:08 (Ref:2346109)

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Originally Posted by stedevil

Yeah, IMO, if he still doesnt get a proper car next year, he should just give Haug the finger and switch to Audi.

I doubt that Ullrich get him new car. May be in GT3.

Valenok · 3 Dec 2008, 07:12 (Ref:2346111)

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Originally Posted by helgi

There's no real sport in popular series and champs. Real racing lives in national series - GT or F3. I don't think LMS is so popular to name it as a 'show',so it's racing too.
Today if series bosses want to collect lots of spectators they transform racing into show.
But it's a very difficult question. If bosses want to have some Racing without elements of show,they won't get any advertising,spectators and money. So,it should be well balanced. In DTM it's getting worse every year.

If spectators switch to another serie - big bosses buy it and make their usual show. Or kill like old ITC, FIA GT, Group C

Speed-King · 5 Dec 2008, 16:08 (Ref:2348154)

DTM is really a lame series, even their silly-season is boring....

Aslak Vind · 5 Dec 2008, 16:14 (Ref:2348163)

Naaa, there ia a lot of things happening.

However, if I wrote anything about these things, I would get shot!

Speed-King · 5 Dec 2008, 16:36 (Ref:2348183)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Naaa, there ia a lot of things happening.

However, if I wrote anything about these things, I would get shot!

I heard something about the 2010-regs being finalized before Christmas, but that's not exactly silly season 08/09.

**FIRE** · 5 Dec 2008, 18:26 (Ref:2348298)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

DTM is really a lame series, even their silly-season is boring....

true

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