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Lewis Hamilton | 22 | 22.00% | |
Michael Schumacher | 11 | 11.00% | |
Juan Manuel Fangio | 6 | 6.00% | |
Alain Prost | 7 | 7.00% | |
Ayrton Senna | 22 | 22.00% | |
Jackie Stewart | 0 | 0% | |
Jim Clark | 17 | 17.00% | |
Alberto Ascari | 0 | 0% | |
Fernando Alonso | 1 | 1.00% | |
Niki Lauda | 3 | 3.00% | |
Stirling Moss | 2 | 2.00% | |
Sebastian Vettel | 0 | 0% | |
Nigel Mansell | 1 | 1.00% | |
Nelson Piquet | 0 | 0% | |
James Hunt | 0 | 0% | |
Mika Hakkinen | 0 | 0% | |
Giles Villeneuve | 2 | 2.00% | |
Max Verstappen | 0 | 0% | |
Nico Rosberg | 0 | 0% | |
Jack Brabham | 4 | 4.00% | |
Carlos Reutemann | 0 | 0% | |
Jochen Rindt | 0 | 0% | |
Ronnie Peterson | 1 | 1.00% | |
Kimi Raikkonen | 1 | 1.00% | |
Graham Hill | 0 | 0% | |
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2 Mar 2021, 15:06 (Ref:4037952) | #1 | |
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Who is the Greatest F1 driver of all time?
Who is the Greatest F1 driver since the very first race in 1950?
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2 Mar 2021, 15:49 (Ref:4037968) | #2 | |
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So I voted for Lewis Hamilton, for reasons that I have previously mentioned on the other poll. Although I think, on pure driving ability, Michael Schumacher was the greatest. But he is ruled out because of Jerez 1997. I think Hamilton has the raw speed and makes few enough mistakes. As I said, I don't want him as number one, because I think he has too many flaws to be the GOAT. But I think every other driver has more flaws, so I am going to have Hamilton as number one.
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2 Mar 2021, 15:53 (Ref:4037969) | #3 | |
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Interesting to see that the previous version of this poll (from nearly 20 years ago!) voted Senna as the greatest. I wonder if we will have the same opinion 20 years later.
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Just a small point, with one or two exceptions all those listed are World Champions. Shouldn't it be any driver and if so what about Jackie Ickx, or John Surtees to name but two?
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Fittipaldi - 2x WDC with different teams (including youngest ever at the time), CART title and 2x Indy500. Hawthorn - 1st British WDC. 24h Le Mans winner. Surtees - WDC and multiple successes on 2 wheels. Keke Rosberg - WDC and father of a WDC. Farina - 1st ever WDC. Mario Andretti - Named the "Driver of the Century" by the Associated Press and RACER magazine, 2000. Damon Hill - took a title in the midst of Schumacher's era. Jacques Villeneuve - achieved a title in F1 (something Gilles did not). There are cases to be made for any of these to be on the list ahead of some of the choices - so my vote would be for 'other'. |
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I voted for Hamilton.
For me he is on a three-man shortlist with Senna and Schumacher. If I wanted a driver to drive one lap to save my life, I’d pick Senna. But he was too willing to drive rivals off the track, too unwilling to accept the right of others to even be on the same track. Exhilarating, inspiring, driven, awesome. But flawed. If I wanted to build an entire team from scratch and make it great, I’d pick Schumacher. Re-invented what was expected of drivers physically, technically, mechanically. But...his numbers are inflated by having co-drivers not allowed to compete. And he had some awful cynical moments that diminished him. If I wanted a driver to turn up race after race, year after year and all but guarantee that the car would go as fast as it could, never making mistakes, setting relentless standards of brilliance, I’d pick Hamilton. He pushes everyone around him to new standards of excellence. He breaks teammates with his intensity. He stands alone among his peers and for me, atop this awesome list. |
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I'm between Fittipaldi for success, Surtees for talent and Jacques Villeneuve for style.
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I vote for ... and everyone can just add it to a mental list, but I doubt very many people will vote for someone not on that list. |
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The following was published in 2016, which differs quite a bit from your list: Has Emerson Fittipaldi really gone from being in people's top ten 5 years ago to not being in the top 25 now? |
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What on earth is Carlos Reutemann doing on the list? And our Nige was heroic on the day but come on , he was no Senna or Prost ,some days he wasn't even really a Mansell really... And heavens , juts how much of a besotted fan does one have to be to even consider Max Verstappen as a candidate. Isn't it a bit, y'know ... early to start thinking about accolades like that ?
As Grand Prix racing started in 1906 I will chuck Tazio Nuvolari's name into the ring . Along with that wonderful buccaneer , Clay Reggazoni , he looks just like an Italian racing driver should . And yes , Clay was technically Swiss , I know . |
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And I was only counting Formula 1 since 1950, so Nuvolari was not included. |
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I like a lot of drivers on that list. I don't think Fittipaldi was better than Reutemann, Reutemann was one of the best of his era. Fittipaldi was good, but I wouldn't quite put him in the great category. Reutemann's talent was one of the highest, just never quite got it together to be champion and never seemed to be in the right place at the right time. If only he'd stayed at Ferrari after 78
I see nothing wrong with having our Nige on the list, he was a great driver. There are some who I think more than warrant a place on the list, the likes of Prost, Senna, Clark and Moss to name but a few. Overall I've gone for Prost. IMHO the best of his time and had artistry that was second to none, especially as his smooth style make a hard job look easy and he never looked hurried or making a mistake Of course it is hard to compare eras, but in each era there have always been a select few that were cut above the rest and from that you can start to get a fair idea who were the greatest of all time |
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I voted for Taki Inoue. No top-anything list is complete without him.
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I think your analysis is rather tacky, TBH......
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He certainly has had more success on Twitter than his ill fated F1 career
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Aha! I see what you did there - nicely done. Honestly don't know why we've suddenly gone OTT with votes for GOATS across a range of different areas here but to me they're all pretty meaningless. First and most critical thing is that there'll be many, many different understandings of what defines "the greatest" across the range of posters here. So, for a poll to be meaningful in any way, the OP should at least offer their proposed definition, so that we can sort that out, prior to any list or any voting. Unless that's done, it's all pretty meaningless but does lead to funny/silly posts, such as Inoue being on the list and that being tacky - nice bit of fun to start the day! |
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It’s something to do.
Why give a definition? Let the individual decide what makes someone the GOAT and say why. It’s more interesting. Although if you need a definition, I think the GOAT has to be the fastest F1 driver who achieved being hit by a course car more than once. |
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I'll go for the following criteria - how well can they drive with patent dinner shoes on? There is only one person I have seen able to do this - Sergio Perez - so he must be the greatest. Prove me otherwise based on that criteria! |
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